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Hi Ho, Hi Ho
Its off to farm we go!
we'll use MA
its the quickest way!
Hi Ho, Hi Ho

Hi Ho, Hi Ho
level 50s with no badges start to show
they never left the starting zone
and they make most of the players moan
Hi Ho, Hi Ho

Hi Ho, Hi Ho
I could have got from 1 to 50 in the time its taken to write this you know
but the last sentence was too long
and it ruined my song
Hi Ho, Hi Ho

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Pure poetic brillaince

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lmao thanks

We need more of them though!

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I would join in but I'm not good at poetry so I'll stick around for the lulz

Razor, as always you're right.. Good poem btw

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Hehe, thanks Phantom. Good to see an English guy and an Irishman can get along! :3

And to Heyman, it seemed to me the whole point of this topic was to degrade farming, mine was really the only poem defending it

Look at the elitists,
they hate our casual game,
all they do is whine and moan
IT DRIVES ME F*****G INSANE.

If they don't like the MA,
they could just not use it
but instead of keepin quiet,
they have to give us ****

So what if we farm or grind
it makes cov fun to play
we spend less time levelling
and more time with our mates.

MA sped the game pace up
so what? it's not that bad
the problem is
that some lvl 50 players are bad.

So what if you're lvl 46
and don't know what 'rep' is?
you could always explain it
instead of takin the p***

So next time you see a naablet
who knows nothing about the game
take the time to teach him
instead of coming here to complain.


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Lesson to be learned: Stop crying about noobs farming MA. People like ME, and the other veterans are ALLOWED to farm because we already know everything about the cov universe. (i'm sure the same with all you reading this)

And IF you see a newbie farming, don't cry about it. Just teach them stuff.

I recently had a friend move into my house and he now shares my cov account, i taught him the ropes and now he's got his own, and is gonna start playing with me.

How about instead of lambasting newbs who farm, you try to cooperate with them?

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Well Stayon you have been a busy player,in the time you have been playing you have double the badge count of my highest character.I have been playing for 3 years why should I lose badges just because you can no longer get them,as others have said earlier in this post forget about badges they mean nothing and in a lot of cases now since the MA came into play,it does not point to a persons skill.You can fly round a zone and pick up badges just for clicking on them is that skill,read enough plaques you get badges ,make inventions get badges ,tell me where is the skill in that.Do the TF,s get a badge that can take skill but also depends on your team mates,So with your massive badge count how many are the type you have to earn from doing missons.

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Nicely said. I agree.

You sound like me, i like to be an absolute destroyer in combat, which explains my NRG/WP brute.

I havn't purpled it up to godly levels yet, but i think we'd get along well ingame. I think i might try to catch you sometine if you're ever on union xD

So you say you've got a godly bane build? I picked up a build called pain asylum a while back that seems absolutely godly. Mind sharing yours?

I suck in mids so my motivation for levelling up characters is when i see some expert player post an absolutely godly build and i think, 'WOO i want that!'

So far my widow is lvl 17, been helping my friends level on my 50 lately. My bane spider could certainly do with a boost!

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And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

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I was using those examples to further your point that Marvel don't truly own copyright on such powers. :\

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for marvel, that's not an argument, just an excuse to be right.
you can say so many things about powers like that, but marvel AND DC will sue NC for that.
and as earlier said, NC can't afford a battle against them, especially not now.

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Breaking news: almost EVERY power in CoX has been utilised in some form by an existing copyrighted fictional character outside of NC's IP.

And I've already proven that elasticity is not a power exclusive to Marvel Comics or even DC.

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That's right

I recently recovered from a ban when my nrg/wp brute couldn't tank 3 complete groups of dual blades bosses (lvl 54) in one of the open maps x) so don't worry to OP.

Some people are out to screw up other people for no reason, so don't worry if you get petitioned by 10 people man x)

I emailed NCsoft support pleading my case. Someone goaded me by saying i suck and various other things i won't repeat, and when i called him a dumb *C word* in global, he petitioned me.

Maybe NCsoft's GMs should operate on a policy of common sense? They emailed me to say they transferred my issue to the accounts team, and they THEN said they were investigating my issue. They didn't contact me again until i was unbanned.

lesson to be learned: don't retaliate against people because you just come off worse.

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Maybe GMs weren't created to be soloed, ever thought of that? :O

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...and yet...they are. Ever thought of that?

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Obviously i did, because people DO solo them, what a ridiculous notion to suggest.

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Maybe if being a lo-lvl wasnt such a drag with how limited it is people may go off and do other things rather than farm.

I mean with a new toon without fast transport powers you cant be [censored] to drag yourself all over the map. Not like when your a 25+ and can use ourborros portal and have enhacned fly or super speed.

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Fortunately tastes are different, I much prefer the lower level gameplay personally and I also have characters without any travel powers at all.

Back on topic:

The main issue with farming is that those of us who play the game normally are often stuck unable to find a team when we need one, because of the constant farm groups going on.
When I last played CoX before my (very long) break, it was common for people to ask around for a bit of help with a difficult mission and teams were quickly assembled. This, however, is no longer the case. Unless you form or join a MA farm team, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get assistance for a quick mission or two (this extends both to normal gameplay and MA story arcs that aren't meant for farming). Add to that the amount of players who powerlevel with the MA without ever getting used to their archtype and it's strengths and weaknesses and it's not difficult to see why so many people have a problem with farming.
Therefore a solution that is acceptable to most of the playerbase needs to be found.

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So you think stopping farming is going to make players turn back to conventional missions? If people don't want to do something, you're NOT gonna make them do it, even if you ban everything in the game.

Also, as long as the farmers are knowledgable in the game and gave taken the time to learn the game, as per Havens has, there's no problem with it.

Thanks Haven, you're living proof that farming is GOOD. But this is WHEN the player is not a naab. Some players get to 50 and don't even know how to get to grandville, this is the problem most anti-farmers argue their case with.

being lvl 50 allows you to contribute more supply and demand to the ingame market, which villainside definately needs.

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lower level grind = faster epics
if they want to block farming, i suggest they do something about how slow leveling go's.

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Levelling has never been faster then now. It should be impossible for even a hardcore player without a job or school to get a 50 in a month!

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i have a full jub and am a casual player, what you say is that a casual player may only have a lvl 50 after 2 YEARS.
if you like to see a game with the right XP rate and req, look at GW.
while in comparison the XP rate is higher in COX then in GW, GW has a way better XP req.
i'm already testing this, and i have seen the 2 main reasons why lvling is so slow.
the missions give a way to low reward then it's worth, and the req to go to the next level is way to high.
if they dim this, then they lower both the grind and the boring side of this game, and there is 70%more boring parts then fun parts.

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I find my self asking why do you still sub to CoH you don't seem to like it all that much and if your don't have the time to play it then why bother?

As to the more specific slow leveling you must be doing something very very wrong while yes it can take 2 years or more to get a character to 50 (my current longest being 4 years 3 months and only level 33) its all to do with style of play and commitment i alt a lot hence why i have several characters that are older than a year and still haven't hit 50 but that's down to my play stile when i concentrate on a single character i can easily take them up several levels in a a week my claws/elec stalker went from 35 to 49 in the space of a couple of weeks with no farming of any kind all i did was play missions some times solo some times teamed if i could get on a ITF id take it. when i was solo i would make sure i ran complete mission arc for the mission arc bonus i would also do this with teams if they had no objections. in the end it was all fast leveling and easy XP you just have to commit to the character.

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This isn't about CoH, it's about CoX (both of them) Personally i despise hero side, but i have a lvl 50 warshade and ilu/kin controller.

And he never said he didn't like the game

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They could disappear to the same place weapons go to when they're not being used

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Since the melee powerset is your limbs in this case, they can just return to your body

If it can subdue super-powers, it logically follows it can subdue the powers and skills of a normal human being.

It's not like it matters anyway, origins don't have any impact on the way you play villainside other than what enhancements you buy at the stores

Vald, if you're already playing on this build ingame can ya tell me what it's like? Looking at it in mids it's already a godly beast of a combatant.

It must play like a dream right? I hope one day i can have one like it x)

That's correct, but since the person who is USING the Anti-Power powerset IS superpowered himself, and can suppress super-powered beings, it would be very easy for them to suppress non-super powered beings.

So if you're a master of martial arts or a master marksman, they could easily subdue you.

The well of furies is what brings the capacity for every superpower to exist. If your character is ordinary in every way, why are you still arguing?

Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee are masters of matial arts, and they don't have no pandora box!

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So on the basis americans spell colour without a U, honour without a U, valour without a U, you're claiming american-english is better for people to express themselves? Wow that's stupid.

We invented the language so we decide how to spell things. We're the ENGLISH people. And just because your language is more recent than ours, (not) isn't anymore reason for people to use it.

And america isn't cultured, you were owned by the British and then the only thing you have going for you now is war, movies, and burgers, and being the fattest country on the planet.

If you want a cultured society, i suggest you study China, which has thousands of years of it.

Also, there is no 'correct' version of english, apart from ENGLISH english. Americans can claim what they want, it won't change anything.

If you want to call a language your own, and a correct version of it, i suggest you invent your own language, because most of us being european, you're not gonna win this one, so just leave it =)

Oh, and to TrueMetal, Britain's queen still controls Australia, so your version of english won't take precedence over ours either.

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While I agree with a lot of your argument, some what you said was bordering on racism, which just isn't acceptable.

Moving onto a lighter note, most of the argument however lost it's oomph when you claimed that the Queen controlled Australia when she doesn't even in control England

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Maybe it lost oomph because you don't understand. While Australia and Canada belong to the British commonwealth and are independant nations, the queen of Britain is still the so called 'head of state' or highest authority there.

And just because she doesn't make political decisions (i.e, prime minister) doesn't mean she has no control.

Also, i wasn't being racist in any way, your perception is slightly askew. And like i have always said before, free speech is a no-holds-barred arena, so be prepared to defend yourself if you ever enter it.

I see, but my point was that if Marvel has issues with the re-creation of their (bad) comic book characters, couldn't the companies compromise somehow?

Also, i didn't mean for ya to take it the wrong way, i just suggested a solution to the problem (i.e make it so you can't name your toon mr fantastic or something like that)

Signed, powers seem ok, not too interesting, but with some designers working on them they could become cool.

Well that's a design choice by positron. Do you know how many games get scrapped, and have elements of design completely removed before being changed?

Positron could just scrap all his plans for up to i18 and call for an engine revamp if he wish i guess.

And also, as i stated before, i don't really care about dalsim or stretch arm strong or mister fantastic, just make it so no one can use their names ingame (input masking)

Like i said before, it's not ncsoft's fault and you can't copyright the concept of stretchy limbs.

But i still understand what you're saying.

I see your point x)

Offline creator was disabled for the greater good, and isn't it about time the game engine of COV was revamped and updated to keep up with the latest games?

The average MMO costs around $20 million to develop.

That's not the fault of NCsoft

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It's logical - our way of spelling and talking is the most recent form of English, so it's the correct one - it's like you don't talk like Shakespeare anymore, because you evolved from it to a more modern style - and that's just what we've done with English

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Totally awesome-like forms aside that are like soooo not Shakespeare and 'sick' aside...

Colloquialisms and fashionable slang aside (otherwise we'd all be talking like Snoop Dogg or in Text-Language) are not an evolution of the English Language any of us should endorse GG! - you're not serious about Americans evolving the English Language for the better are you? - really?

(Rolls around the floor holding sides unable to stop laughing).

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Well, language has to serve peoples needs, and as more people seem to use our version of English, then that kinda shows that our version is more suitable for them to express themselves.

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So on the basis americans spell colour without a U, honour without a U, valour without a U, you're claiming american-english is better for people to express themselves? Wow that's stupid.

We invented the language so we decide how to spell things. We're the ENGLISH people. And just because your language is more recent than ours, (not) isn't anymore reason for people to use it.

And america isn't cultured, you were owned by the British and then the only thing you have going for you now is war, movies, and burgers, and being the fattest country on the planet.

If you want a cultured society, i suggest you study China, which has thousands of years of it.

Also, there is no 'correct' version of english, apart from ENGLISH english. Americans can claim what they want, it won't change anything.

If you want to call a language your own, and a correct version of it, i suggest you invent your own language, because most of us being european, you're not gonna win this one, so just leave it =)

Oh, and to TrueMetal, Britain's queen still controls Australia, so your version of english won't take precedence over ours either.

It's not like Marvel copyrighted the concept fo stretchy arms/limbs.

In the way of copyright, there's nothing they can do about it. You can't copyright a concept like strecthy limbs.