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Or increase the "heal-back" portion of PA's damage. To maybe something like 50% of the base damage (not enhanced damage). IE if PA smacks something for 100 points of damage...50 points heals back at base. If PA's damaged is bumped up to 150 via enhancements, the heal-back is still 50 points as its going off base damage before enhancements...which IIRC is how it currently works...just with a smaller % of the damage healing back.

Right...thanks, Oath.

I was gonna say something a bit snarky when i read Rak's post but...i felt that ultimately...it wasn't worth it and i would regret wasting my time, effort, and valuable talent for sarcasm that could be put to better use elsewhere. I don't care about pouters anyway.

Which does not surprise me at all.

During many of the early threads about the idea of proliffing Illusion to dominators, there were almost always nay-sayers that crept in saying that the set would be bad on doms because so few of the powers in the set would benefit from Domination. Of course, there is no denying this.

The problem with that line of thought is a bit of a mix of not "thinking outside the box" and not "seeing the forest for the trees". None of them stopped to think that much of Illusion control HINGES on PA. Sure...Spectral McSpooky-pants is pretty nice...but he doesn't keep stuff off of you NEARLY as well as the phantoms. And ever since the nerf to AoE mass holds of shorter durations and longer recharges...flash doesn't have the impact it once did. And honestly...even if you pair Illusion with a set that has an immoblize or extra hold(s)...Controllers don't benefit much from Containment either. So there blows THAT "no domination benefit" argument out the window too.

In fact...its pretty much BECAUSE of PA that makes Ill/ trollers so nasty. Especially when combined with the right sets like /Rad and /Time. Why? Because while you can't directly buff the damage of the phantoms...you can debuff the badz into little more then mewing kittens while the phantoms hammer away at them with impunity. At perma-PA levels...you've basically got what every mastermind would give his left......ear...for. Unkillable pets that pretty much keep stuff away from him while he sits back, drinks coffee (with enriche creamer), and reaps the rewards.

Sure, a dominator doesn't have all those nice, pretty debuffs (although sleet from the ice epic is dang sweet)...he has an entire secondary devoted to dishing out hurt. Combine that with PA...yeesh. Would probably make a controller blush a pretty pink.

So yeah...would not be surprised in the least if this was the point of contention for a prolif.


....I still want it though.

No. Just...no.

PA is the meat and potatos of Illusion and the entire reason i would play this set on a dominator. PA + Dom Assault Sets = nearly worry free, wholesale slaughter...which MAY be part of the reason for the hold-up...although i would argue that Plant already has that in spades thanks to SoC, which is FAR more easily perma'd.

Don't get me wrong (and you probably didn't...but hey...never know), I freakin love water blast. Only posted what I did cuz I'd read through a couple of other threads regarding water blast and i kept reading over and over how it stacked up to Fire and that it didn't perform as well (read: do the gobs and gobs of god-awful of end of the world as we know it damage...blah blah blah.......haterz) as if everything MUST be Fire or its garbage.

Didn't know that geyser was also gonna get adjusted with the upcoming nuke changes...so i'm assuming that they're all gonna get pretty much "normalized"...more or less. Hmm...that mean that Geyser damage is gonna go up or down...cuz that thing is just WOOOOO. I've done some room clearing with that bad boy. So...yeah. Kinda lookin forward to that...as well as the adjustment to the 40' blasts getting bumped to 80'....water jet at that distance? Yes please.

I actually kinda went with /ice on my blaster in anticipation for the i24 changes and the +absorb coming to chilling embrace. Now that i know that geyser too will also be getting adjusted (i knew the crash nukes were getting treated...didn't know that the already crashless ones were too)...........i freakin hate you, man. Now i gotta wait for THAT too! GEEZ!

Jerk!

...Then prepare for disappointment. Fire/ this is not. ...And frankly...NOTHING is Fire other than Fire. Attempt this comparison...and you will cry doom...as others have already cried because Water blast isn't a splashy Fire Blast.

Fire blast should not be, nor should ever be, the standard metric of which to measure other sets against. Results are already skewed in favor of Fire Blast before the first number is crunched...often heavily.

As for the OP

I'm loving my Water/Ice blaster Tsunami Ami Yumi. I may not get a ton of damage mileage out my secondary...but it's got some pretty good mitigation. (Honestly...i partly picked ice in preperation for the i24 blaster changes and +absorb on chilling embrace.) I haven't really felt all that lacking in damage with her...mobs seem to go down plenty fast.

Fixed that for ya. /EA...not /ELA. Energy...not Electric.

The spice must flow.

The OF proc has a 20% chance to KD targets when slotted in a power that does not already possess KB/KD. For NOW...when slotted in powers that have KB (and damage) like most every attack in energy blast, tornado, bonfire, etc...it turns the KB in to KD 100% of the time. However...the proc is bugged (unless they fixed it and i missed the memo) and is not working properly when slotted into non-kb powers....ie not working at all. The devs are also planning to change the KB to KD part of the proc and give it a 40% chance to KD instead of KB. This is probably due, at least in part, to the nastiness that is powers like Bonfire with this proc.

I dunno about Kool Aid...but there's a Water Cooler in the "what water combos are you gonna make" thread.

...Jus' sayin.

Pretty much this...

Typically, the most requested adjustments to DP that I usually see around the boards are:

Adjusted/Alternate animations. Usually the latter as many people don't particually care for the Equilibrium gun-fu motif. Those that chime in on adjusted animation times most often pick out Executioner's Shot and Piercing Shot...with a lesser degree on Hail of Bullets and Empty Clips (and sometimes Bullet Rain...though what i thought was slightly odd was the big hullabaloo of the curving bullets on that one. In "Wanted"...it was cool...awesome even. But in CoH...somehow it "didn't work". I'm STILL trying to figure that one out!)

More useful secondary effects and/or a damage ratio change on alternate ammo types (and making the secondary effects apply to the teir 1 attack Pistol). This is another biggie. It has long been agreed upon my many of the forumites that the secondary effects of most of the Swap Ammo types were near useless...particularly on a blaster. The slows on Cryo ammo wouldn't even make a snail flinch, and the -damage rarely, if ever, made even the slightest dent in mob damage output, even when leveraged to its utmost on a single target. Incendiary is just...well...extra damage. That at least worked out fairly well. The ability to apply effects with Pistols has been mentioned repeatedly, as it would aid in stacking secondary effect debuffs that much easier.

The other issue is the damage ratio when swapping ammo. The current ratio is (correct me if i'm wrong) something like 70/30, with the alternate damage type being the 30. Part of the gimmick (as we understood it) was that "Hey...running up against something that's weak to Cold damage? Use CRYO!" and other such things. However, in practice...it doesn't work out that way because the secondary damage, Cold in this example, makes for so little of the actual damage that it doesn't do so well in practice, often with the damage still being beaten out by using Incendiary Ammo. As it stands now, many players will use Standard Ammo while soloing so as to make use of the KB and Incendy Ammo while teaming for the extra damage and rarely ever touch the other 2 types...unless it's just for kicks.

And yes. I also have seen calls for a straight damage boost. But frankly...I see that nearly everywhere i go on these boards for the most part. That's not something that's restricted to DP. Of course...the funny thing is...most of the people calling for said damage boosts are also the very same one's that mention "fire" in the same sentence. Gee...real head scratcher there. Could it use a damage boost? <Shrugz> Eh. Honestly...i think tweaking the animation times a bit and making the set a bit quicker would do wonders for DP. Hell...look at fire blast (and formerly ice blast for ST damage). Part of what makes this set a top performer, aside of the gobs of damage it puts out, is the fact that it's FAST! You don't spend 3 hours whirling flames around your head before searing someone's face off.

Wow...a whole set devoted to...

"Dude! Did you just hit me?"

"..."

"Seriously! Did you just freakin hit me. I THINK you hit me...but I'm not sure. WTF, man!"

"..."

"UGH! What the-? AGAIN? THAT'S IT! I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP! LET'S GO! FIGHT LIKE A MAN...er...WHATEVER YOU ARE! YA CHICKEN!" <thud>

(Patrol comes in and sees a fellow gang member checking on an unconscious man.)

"Hey. What happened to Jimmy?"

"Hell if I know. He just started talking to himself and swinging at air and then he just...fell out, man."

"Weird."

"Pfft...yeah. I kept tellin the boss not to let this guy join up. Didn't seem quite right in the head. Guess I was right."

<secretly switches THB's coffee with decaf>

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...Not much I can do about the tin foil hat, though.