OPTICAL_ILLUSION

Just so you all understand the big picture...

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Because they can by game design.

There could be many reasons why they are there.

Yes.

IDK.

Design a toon using mids', post it on the boards to get advice, level and slot said toon, go PvP.

I don't understand all this ganking business people complain about. Prepare, practice, get better, team up, live longer, get kills. Pretty simple concept. I'm sure you already have applied this to the PvE portion of the game right?

5 levels higher in powers from the zone level cap.

No clue bc I never cared to look.

Can't blame the current crop of players because of your lack of PvP experience.

PvP is dead because of poor design decisions made back in issue 13.

One small step for PvPers; one giant leap for PvPkind!

Unfortunately that was a genuine suggestion and idea despite what some of you are assuming.

Considering that these types of mechanics have been implemented in portion of the game and have been discussed and considered in other areas of the game, it is not something completely out of the question or unreasonable to discuss.

This game needs new level of challenges, PvP population is low, the PvP mechanics are extremely foreign to players because it is so drastic from PvE, generally players learn about PvP through getting farmed which is not very motivating, your team does not provide any character builders that show accurate numbers, players are forced to build there toons by trial and error and I'm assuming these mechanics are here to stay, so the idea does make sense and is worth considering.

Wow this has become a pretty hot topic!

For the record, I am being completely serious about this suggestion and will have a few more additions for this topic soon.

Big thanks to those who have contributed both positive and negative constructive feedback, keep it up so this remains a productive, meaningful and worthwhile discussion.

To those who have dropped comments about this being a troll thread and such, please remove them or I'll have our friendly neighborhood Mod8man remove them for you.

Thanks

This also makes complete sense from an RP standpoint because that would explain why the Praetorian counterparts to our signature heroes and villains are not as powerful in certain ways.

Wow, it's so amazingly interesting how all this fits together!

I'm all in favor of trashing the current PvP mechanics but if the Devs do decide to keep them as is, then I believe I have come up with (thank macskull for the inspitration) a great solution to counter the lack of player participation in PvP.

I know, you know and especially the Devs know that PvE in this game is far too easy mode for its' own good. We also know that if new levels of challenge are not given to players the game grows stagnant. Boring easy mode only holds someones retention for so long.

As far as facts are concerned, I’ll have to look around for it or if someone could kindly provide a quote, in total the Devs had received more positive feedback about the PvP revamp through PMs than combined total negative feedback. Sorry but that means that are way more loyalists for these types of game mechanics out there then there are resistance members going against it.

Also keep in mind that this would not be an entire game wide change, these rules would only apply to GR and PvP.

Having player desired and approved mechanics like these in GR makes complete sense for the bigger picture. It will add a new layer of challenge, more fun, hold up retention numbers and provide an avenue that develops player confidence to participate in the end game content known as PvP.

If you are really sitting there thinking to yourself that the Devs do not want to throw in different mechanics into to the game to challenge players you are sorely mistaken. The PvP revamp is there for a reason. Look at the difficulty level of Reichsman. See what they are doing with holiday events?

Go ahead sit back and flame, troll and laugh all you want but you can’t fight the inevitable evolution that is occurring.

Implementing this idea will increase long-term PvE retention numbers and improve the overall health of PvP. PvE win/PvP win/More $ for NCsoft win!

For GR they should apply the exact same rules in Praetoria that we currently have for PvP. This would not only provide players with a refreshing new level of challenge, but would also allow them to experience and get comfortable with these mechanics in a safe environment which will make them less apprehensive to step foot into the Arena or a PvP zone.

If this were to happen it would become a win/win situation for both the PvE and PvP community.

Also, please throw in some PvPvE content as well just like they have in Aion.

Barrier, you have shown me the light!

Having PvP IOs drop from critters would be the best thing ever!

Aion has an interesting concept but beyond that it is a terrible game. The only thing I would approve of is having a rift system connecting CoX to Aion so we could grief people in the Abyss.

"Greetings!

The PvP community would love it if you reviewed PvP recipe drop rates and provided a response on your findings as well.

Thanks!

Optical Illusion"

If you plan on keeping the PvP mechanics as is then would you please at least give Controllers the reach around and improve their primary sets to be more useful?

Here are some examples...

No DoT for ST attacks, just pure damage.

Add decent damage to ST and AoE Mez attacks that currently do little to no damage.

Drastically lower the timer for long recharge powers.

Have Containment do something other than nothing.

Beef up pets.

Thanks

Not a pistol BUT could provide some good ideas...

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