Neuronia

Hey Doc!

I won't profess to be an expert on the Market. I consider myself a supplier and a casual speculator.

Say you want a Doohicky: Chance for Pecan Pie (50). Check the recipe sales and the crafted sales. You'll find that in several cases, people will pay more for the assembled and cooked pecan pie! Just for a lark, I checked some Doctored Wounds at level 50 a few weeks ago. I bought 5 or 6 recipes at 100 or 1,000 each. Crafted, they sold for 1,000,000-5,000,000 each.

Simply, everything you do ingame will get you money. These days, I craft almost all orange drops I get and list them. When I accumulate enough rolls, I choose the 40-45 Rare Recipe range and get decent results (2 pet recipes this morning, oy vey...). Otherwise, simply crafting basic IOs and selling them far above crafted price will get a nice return.

Not a lot of Essence of the Furies out there? Cash in some tickets for a few, turn them into 5,000,000 and go from there.

Yep, those LOTG: 7.5 at 200 Merits are more expensive than you'd get playing the Market. I tend to speed Positron and other TFs though so I can splurge on this every now and then.

Hey, you know what? Hallowe'en event starts tomorrow. I bet if you had some salvage stored somewhere you can make a few millions too...

Essentially, there are enough income avenues in the game that you can make your own pile while not stepping on anyone's toes.

Precisely.

I'll bring up again the case of a young sgmate. He's about 16-17, plays baseball/soccer goes to high school/has a social life. About 3-4 hours a week total and his Fire/Kin is purpled and his Martial Arts/Super Reflexes Scrapper is very well kitted, sans purple?

But, that's impossible you say? How did he do it?


He sold every. single. thing.
He paid attention that some recipes could be bought at 50 very cheap and resold for vast profits.
He cashed in tickets for salvage and random Bronze rolls.
He crafted and sold every. single. thing.

In one week he went from having 5 million on hand to well over 250,000,000. While he was playing, he got a Ragnarok proc and a Immob purple. He sold those just now for arond 90 million together.

Still don't think it's possible?

Here's what I've been doing for the past three weeks because of an overloaded work schedule:

Imperious Task Force three or four times a week (30 minutes - 45 minutes)
Hamidon Raid (1 hour, 1.5 hours)

About four to five hours ingame at most. I've cashed all my Merits on 40-44(45) recipe rolls, I've crafted and sold everything and raked in the cash. I've also started selling Hallowe'en salvage and made bushels there.

Please...if you want the purples, play your 50s, sell your drops and work toward them. Eventually you'll make so much money that not only the purples but all other items will be available too.

Kinda.

I run ITFs, TFs, missions on Pinnacle, Champion and Infinity all the time. Regularly do 25-40 minute ITFs and not a lot of those are with 8 people with super purple builds. All people do is follow instructions and we move on.

I have hardly ever seen someone turned down because their builds were too weak. What might happen, though, is people will take 50s first then fill with 35s or 40s for an ITF or whatnot. The only time I've seen preferences for IOd builds was for Master ITF/LRSF/Reichsmann TF/SF runs. Even then, preference goes to people that are excperienced with their builds over those all twinked out.

Sure, for PvP I can see it or for speed running certain tasks or for very quick accomplishment of exemplared tasks.

You really do just need SOs though. My Illusion/Trick Arrow is level 36 and has only used SOs. She does fine. She cooperates with mission leaders, helps with crowd control and debuffs, has stealth/temporary team recall/vet recall when needed...nothing fancy here. Of course, her build two will have a ton of purples and set IOs.

Heck, we had some PvP within sg the other day and people with average builds did well after I explained to them what inspirations would be best, how to best synergize use of their powers, etc...I am simply not seeing 'teh d00m' as far as IOs go, though admittedly some of the groups that I run with are rather hardcore as far as that goes.

Remember, the mobs are just as easy to punch out as they were 'in the day'.

This and the gargantuan Merit disparity between Blue and Redside.

To get 66 Merits Redside I need to do an ITF (26) 3 Respecs (about 50-60ish) while I can knock off a Posi in a shorter amount of time (well, nominallly...if you do a 20 minute ITF and three 15 minute Respecs then Red wins).

The fact I can get a LOTG 7.5 after a few Phalanx TF runs...yeah.
Mind you, I can work the Market redside well but more tedious stuff please if it means higher rewards.

I'm going to have to disagree here, with all due respect to your broader experience.

I installed WoW AND WAS "WoW"ed by the speech, cinematics and found it interesting...I levlled quickly but wow, when I got to 14 and I wasn't flying over everything or teleporting around everything there was a disconnect.

Also, my character couldn't solo 4ish even-con Bandits; I literally felt like a weakling. I couldn't solo 3-4 even con cave moles or whatever...this is a low level Night Elf Druid quest.

On top of that all the "paperwork" with spells, renewing armor...it was just too much:

I don't care about renewing armor
I don't care about right-clicking on every mob for loot

I just want to log in, fight about 16-20 mobs at a time, have stuff drop in my inventory and move on.
No doubt WoW is great and has fantastic mass appeal, but it lost me very early on.

Well, this is an interesting idea but they would have to do it secretly or it would fail for one reason:

Tradeable influence.

If they announce:

"We're removing all Level 53 IOs from the Auction Houses, as well as all Hamis less than level 50."

I'll just pull my bids on said IOs/Hamis, have a friend log in and transfer those funds to an Influence mule. I don't think I'd be alone in this, as people in this game tend to be very averse to losing anything they've accumulated, a sentiment I've parted with myself only recently, admittedly.


Hmmm what if you couldn't store crafted IOs, either in bins or at the Market (perhaps not on characters either...though this would be too radical and would make all item 'bound' in a manner inappropriate with game precepts)? You'd have to sell/buy almost anything. This seems contrary to the game's design, as storage is allowed/encouraged.

I *would* buy Crafted IO storage for sure, or extra Market slots or extra Costume slots or even extra enhancement slots, though the last would veer the forums into panic mode.



Arenas used to have 'payouts' for events. Why not have a fee for entering the event, winner or winning team gets the inf. Why not allow betting on Arena events? Add a 'bookie' at all Arena locations. Say Awesome PvPer X and Awesome PvPer Y face off, you'd have some sort of 'odds' system based on the skill of players (hmm this is getting more complicated HA!). For example if a veteran PvPer is fighting someone completely new, you'd only get 0.45 or 0.50 back on your inf. If the new guy somehow pulls off the win, you get 1.50 or 1.60 back on your inf.

Of course, players can game stuff, obviously...but it's inf. I dunno, it seems like a cool idea, considering how much 'virtual site based' I wager on hockey every day (vBucks come to mind).

Payment for Mission teleporters would be nice...payment to uncover maps...

That is correct.
If you want 20 large insps, you tell me. I empty my tray and send them to you one by one or through the trade window.
If you want a Recipe roll, tell me the range, I roll and then give it to you, uncrafted.

When I've done Merit giveaways, I've generally had people tell me "40-45" or "35-40", clicked and dragged and dropped onto their character. While I' prefer if you (the winner) collected your Merits on your winning toon, I'm not opposed to you getting an alt for the roll, as long as it's Blueside Champion.

No, just no. This is the one event the Devs have ever made that I truly dislike. Coming from someone that practiced evading hours upon hours upon hours but the twitch skills for the slopes just baffle me.

I was so unable and frustrated with them that I helped with a teleport chain on the old slopes and had a friend get them for me with the new slope.

Just no...I appreciate that you and others enjoy them and are proficient at them, but they're too frustrating here.

Now, Hallowe'en....that's fun stuff, can't wait to see the new tweaks. Would have loved to be turned into a zombie for a short time, until player defeat hehe.

Freedom is still hopping for the most part, hf out there.