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  1. My fire tank gets by with one Karma -KB.

    The only time it was ever an issue was running the Katie Hannon TF.

    Other than that, he gets by fine.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fury Flechette View Post
    And it's not really a custom farm. I spent about 5 mins putting it together. I can use *any* AE content (dev choice arcs, player made story arcs, etc.)
    Yep.
    The reward structure of MA is what makes it so efficient, not the map you run.
  3. GJ Fury!

    my predictive skills having proven as weak as usual I'll leave the numbers to the pros and just enjoy the screens.

    =)
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
    I did that about a year ago, I believe, and the availability of recipes in general seems to have gone down a great deal since then.
    Anything less than level 50, yes.
    Supply at level 50 is as vibrant as ever.

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    And rising further out of reach - last time I was seriously looking into IOs I was shocked by prices of 10-20 million coupled with rare salvage prices of 1-2 million, now I look at the market and see those recipes going for 60 million+ (when available at all) and the salvage sometimes rising up to 7 million or higher. It's daunting to get into.
    Keep in mind that the BUY NAO! prices you're using to make your judgement are substantially higher than what a patient bidder would expect to pay.


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    And I find the crafting system to be dull, so I would only be crafting recipes that I'd be personally using.
    Why does crafting something you will personally slot rate higher on the entertainment scale than crafting something you can get a big pile of inf for which you can use to buy things to personally slot?

    Both lead to the same goal and the second option will get you there much faster.
  5. I only have one level 50 villain, the Goat.

    Grandville doesn't bug me since I upgraded my system a while back, and I ran him through the Ghost Widow patron arc and thought it was really good.

    YMMV.
  6. playing AND marketeering you should be able to make a pile.
    starting from 0 is a fairly big handicap, though.

    7 days, light play schedule, mixed game types, starting from scratch, no idea how optimally you're slotted......hmm, I'll be conservative and say 76 million.
  7. the Goat is mostly slotted with level 30-ish sets, PvP IOs & purples (which don't care about level). Supply of sub 50 stuff was better before merits and I gradually kitted him out as he leveled up.


    Hero side my level 45 fire/ice blaster is likewise slotted for the mid 30's.


    Nowadays level 50 is where the supply and the action is, so my recent projects are all slotted with higher level stuff.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Decorum View Post
    45 year Mountain Dew addiction here.
    remember when the ads featured hicks in cutoffs swinging into the lake on a rope? =P



    I use coffee, Peet's French Roast. I brew with one of those plastic cone filter things using two scoops of fresh grind per cup.

    Zing!
  9. aw geez, that lizardy looking tail may force me to buy this.

    it'd look fab on the Goat.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MLEdelen View Post
    They want to charge us 10 dollars for something that experienced people could create in a weekend....

    yah right.


    *rolleyes*
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Eloora View Post
    Not everyone is swimming in inf, BTW.
    their laziness isn't our problem.

    my sig speaks the truth.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Logan Storm View Post
    Oh and I wont use that Bean Bag Power...
    great utility and a fantastic place to park a (relatively) cheap purple set?

    they could have called it 'tea bag' and I'd still find room for it.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
    With three million, I'd go with a couple of popular yellow max-level IO's (the stereotypical ones being Thunderstrike, Crushing Impact and Doctored Wounds at level 50) which should make one to three million profit each, but I don't have any perspective on what the market is like if you're new to it. It may not be as obvious a starting place as I think. Three million becomes six becomes ten becomes fifteen, etc.
    I can vouch for Thunderstrikes & Doctored Wounds. I've sold a metric ton of them during my recent vacation in MA. I'm socking away all my melee drops in base storage for the arrival of the tidal wave of new Kinetic Melee characters that GR will bring with it so I haven't sold any of my Crushing Impacts. Yet.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Reptlbrain View Post

    Ice blasters earn 15 million/hr?
    if you follow my MA farming plan you'll be making 100-200+ per hour.
    =P

    Running straight missions, no way on earth barring a super lucky drop.
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
    That's just selling what you farm - it doesn't require the monotony of marketeering.
    So you don't see spending hours clearing identical piles of enemies off the same map over and over and over as being tedious, but spending ten or fifteen minutes every few days tending market bids is?

    I enjoy both activities, but if I had to label one of them I'd choose map farming- it takes much longer and requires far more repetitive behavior than tending a market farm.


    /also, for recent arrivals:

    Another Fan isn't operating in good faith. His only purpose here is to spew the same line of gibberish that we've debunked dozens of times in the interest of fueling whatever fire happens to be burning at the moment. There's a word for it that we're not allowed to use here, but if you don't feed the thing with no name it will eventually go away.
  16. Nethergoat

    Goatrules

    The Goat speaks only truth!
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by rsclark View Post
    Marketeering is duller than farming ever could be.
    I on the other hand enjoy both activities. =)

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    ....I do wish it were possible to just play the game and have the same opportunities that the market mini-game players have. I consider that a problem, but not one with an easy answer.
    I'd like the same access to Pool C drops as the people who have the time to invest efficiently running TFs for merits do. But as they say, if wishes were horses we'd all have a Magic Pony for getting around town on.

    In any case, all you need to do to earn billions is play the game and sell your drops. It will take you longer than a player who takes action to maximize earnings, but you'll get there.
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tongz View Post
    EDIT: One last question, though. I'm trying the "buy recipes/make IO's/sell IO" tactic. To make money, do you typically just nab 5 or 10 of the same recipe and put the IO's up, or do you keep a fairly diverse stock? Why?
    I never get in too deep with any recipe unless it's basically free.
    The market is full of other players looking for scores, and in the past I've had my dependable, lucrative niche get gobbled up overnight by rapacious competitors who don't mind narrow profit margins, sometimes leaving me with a bunch of unsalable junk in base storage.

    If I'm buying recipes to craft and sell, I stick to a couple at a time and try to stick with very high profit items. I ran a gig last week where I bought 10 defense recipes for a few k, all the salvage for them for another few k, crafted the whole lot at once and sold them all for between 2-7 million.
    It was astronomically profitable from a % standpoint, but I won't be repeating the experiment. I'd rather make the 60-odd million profit I earned there off one recipe even if it cost me a lot more to create.
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
    2) Assuming, for a moment, that you do not want to farm and you do not want to play a current 50 and you do not want to marketeer, does that put you Straight Outta Luck? It does not, surprisingly. I don't know Mission Architect farming- that is what the Goat is eating, more power to him- but if you want to accumulate merits, I know a little about that.
    If I could reliably depend on more than 20 minutes of straight gamplay at a sitting I'd be riding the TF merit train too.

    But tickets aren't a bad consolation prize. =D
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tongz View Post
    1) I've tried selling salvage. I have, on multiple occasions, scrolled through my full salvage list to try and find something that would sell for more than 1,000 inf. (I search it on WW and look at the history to find out if it's worth anything.) Is this the only way? Am I missing something? Should I be doing this on my 50?
    level 50's are by far the most efficient wealth creators in the game, so if earning $$ is your goal playing your 50 is the way to do it. Generic IO recipes drop frequently and sell for around 100k each, inf for defeats racks up fast and level 50 also has the largest audience and fastest turnover for the 'good' set IO drops you get.

    Salvage is fun but it isn't a serious source of wealth generation- the big money is in set IO recpies.

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    2) My 50 is an ice/ice/cold blaster with SO's and a few Hamio's. (I got into WoW right before IO's came out, and have never got back into them full time). Obviously, she can AoE, but not survive lots of mobs at a time. Even though I don't like her as a toon, I don't mind playing her a bit to make some money.
    I'm not familiar with ice/ice, but my fire/ice is a farming machine and assuming the ice primary has some good AoE damage you should be able to mow big piles of enemies with ease. /ice gives fantastic mitigation so survival against big piles of low-ish level enemies shouldn't be a problem.

    If I can efficiently farm MA with my mediocre ar/dev, you can do it with an ice/ice.

    set your mission slider to +0/x(whatever you can survive).
    I started at x3, and as I slotted good enhancements slowly bumped it up until now I mow along at x8 without breaking a sweat.

    For fast inf generation with a low learning curve I recommend finding a good MA farm map, capping your tickets and rolling them all in the Bronze 34-39 range. You'll get 20 or so recipes for your trouble and while most of them will be junk you'll reliably get 5-10 winners. Blue side, crafting some of them will make you silly profits, I make between 50-100+ million per run. Not bad for 30 or so minutes.


    there are also lots of 'pure' marketeering methods for raking in the inf, but the 'farm and sell' method is totally bulletproof.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tongz View Post
    Good grief! I didn't spend this much time crunching numbers in WoW!! You could realize your full potential by raiding, getting the best gear, and enchanting/gemming it. If this is the world of making money and realizing your character's potential, I guess I'll be gimp the rest of my CoX career. This is just too much.
    I find this game much more intuitive, less time intensive and more equitable than Wow, and by such a huge margin I don't see how any reasonable gamer could disagree.

    I have extremely limited time for gaming, and yet I've been able to kit out my ar/dev project blaster with "the best gear" in a little less than a month of real time with a game time investment of a few hours a week. Our economy and the WoW AH are both great for generating big piles of money, but only one of them lets you buy the l337357 gear no strings attached (hint: it's ours).

    You will make a giant pile of inf on your way to level 50 doing nothing but selling your drops on the market, several hundred million at least. If you take even the smallest steps toward maximizing that wealth, say by crafting the occasional 'good' recipe or making an MA farming run once in a while, you'll greatly multiply that earning power.

    And if you buckle down and do any kind of serious farming or marketeering, your biggest problem will be rolling new alts to act as your inf mules.
  22. Nethergoat

    humble ebil

    Hooray!

    the more eebil the more eebil, I always say!
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post

    I've gotten VERY used to "put recipe in market/find/find salvage", though.
    if that were the only change they'd made in the market I would be singing the praises of the new interface from the rooftops.