Nethergoat

Volume doesn't define flipping.

One NMI, 10k NMIs, as long as you're buying cheap and listing for a profit it's flipping.

If you're deleting stuff as you go to create inventory space, that's not flipping.

Likewise.

Nearly everything that happens on the market is driven by what the playerbase is currently prioritizing.

Most people (and thus most gamers) are basically lazy.- why would they struggle and fight against the tide when it is easier and more profitable to go with the flow?

I mean, aside from doing stuff just to see if you *can*.
But that's always going to be an extreme minority- some folk like to run those uber-killer MA missions just to see if they can hack it, but the vast majority either want fun stories or pushover farms.

one of my niches collapsed overnight, but I should still be able to make my 1 bill 'nut' on Monday....

seconded.

GRATZ, and Yes!

=D

They're both parodies of the same thing.


Funny stuff, good find TG.

Your not being around to read it does nothing to invalidate my findings.
Plenty of folk around here did read it.



Actually, it's an excellent indicator that my patience for people who show up and start yelling UP IS DOWN, WHY SHOULD I PROVE ANYTHING, I JUST KNOW IT SO NYAAAH NYAAAH NYAAAAH! is shot after years of explaining very basic, obvious principles to blinkered know-nothings who're too lazy or disingenuous to back up their claims with data.

Key points.

If you're messing with commons for profit instead of fun or education, you're wasting your time. The basic concepts that allow profitable flipping are easily applied to anything else in the game, and nearly anything else will generate vastly more profit for a fraction of the effort.

As farmers gravitate naturally to whatever content delivers the best reward/time ratio, marketeers gravitate toward the highest profits for the least work. Working commons would be like washing dishes in a fancy restaurant- a good way to get your foot in the door, but nobody with any talent or ambition would stick with it one second longer than necessary.


I've been flipping stacks of arcane rares, taking advantage of the ToT effect, making ~10m a stack profits on overnight turnarounds. Why would I bust my hump schleping commons? Why would anyone?

Yes, people do all sorts of weird things in this game for personal reasons, but by and large marketeers gravitate toward efficiency. Commons are not efficient.

I've posted many threads on the old forums which went to meet the forum monster. Having done the work, I'm not inspired to repeat myself when the results are easy enough for anyone to observe by investing a little time and a little inf in flipping salvage for themselves.

Flippers make a profit by decreasing volatility. People notice they can GET a decent price for something so you get more listings. Other people pay a premium to get it NAO, or they can wait and get it for flipper cost +1.

"prices always drop down" hasn't been my experience. Prices go back to fluctuating, certainly. Sometimes flatlined, sometimes outrageous. You can see some of this right now with the current ToT and MA-inspired dearth of 'junk' salvage. You can still get most of it for next to nothing if you're willing to wait a bit, but massive spikes are very common.

Far more than any flipper what's affecting it is lack of supply as every farmer and their mother is mercilessly hammering MA. Most commons are fluctuating wildly and showing extreme price spikes. While it's doubtless been exacerbated by folk playing around and deleting or flipping or whatever, the activity wouldn't be sustainable over the long term if supply was at 'normal' levels.

Not understanding how things work isn't anything to brag about.

"hard" not in the sense that it's difficult, but in the sense that it's tedious and takes a (relatively) large expenditure of energy for a (relatively) minimal return.

Interesting assertion.

Proof please, or is everyone just supposed to take your word for it?

indeed.

broadcast is like cable news- disbelief should be your default setting.