Nericus

When I saw Iron Man 2 in theatres, as the credits started I yelled out "Bonus scene after the credits!" a coupel of times, that got a few that were leaving to stick around and see the hammer of THOR in the ground.

But is converting 2 bill inf to 4 mill prestige to create a functional base truly worth it? The inf to prestige conversion ratio has always been a bit.....off, imo.

Also, are bases truly needed/useful these days? Currently I think the only thing you cannot do outside a base is setup and launch the Cathedral of Pain. All trains on blueside and all ferrys on redside are now linked to all non hazard/pvp zones so is a base loaded with all teleporters needed? Rezzing in base is fine if you have insps in storage you think you may need, but you dont rez at full health and the devices to augment the rez chamber come from the 2nd SG heal badge and cost base rent once installed.

As you wish. However it's been shown in the past with other forms of intelligent Hulk that if his tempers gets the better of him in battle that savage Hulk starts emerging unless he calms down or gets calmed down by someone else. The two exceptions to this would be Grey Hulk and the World Breaker Hulk.

Yes but that Hulk has all the memories of the past including his time as a Defender, so the Surfer attacking him would feel like another friend betraying him.

For the animated movie, Beta Ray Bill makes reference to how Asgard's halls echo with tales of his rage (Hulk vs THOR), so Hulk might see this as a supposed friend from Asgard out to kill him, hence a betrayal.

Or Hulk was just getting caught up in battle rage.

All reviews are subject to the perspective/opinion of the reviewers. Now granted if the majority say a movie stinks then they may be onto something, (Elektra, Catwoman, Punisher Warzone..)

But once in awhile you get one that while some say it stinks, it's not that bad and turns into a cult classic.

Dr. Strange, Namor, Silver Surfer, and the Hulk are the original Defenders and have worked together many times. So the Surfer attacking the Hulk, regardless of the control disc, would tick Hulk off and make Hulk feel like another "friend" has betrayed him.

A good movie and nice adaptation of the comic story, but animation allows them to do more with the Hulk.

Now if only they can somehow do an animated WORLD WAR HULK movie.

Considering all the times Hulk has felt betrayed by friends in the past, not to mention it was so called friends that blasted him into space and he ends up on Sakaar I'd say he had good reason to vent his rage at this point.

Now for a big question: Hugo Weaving aka Agent Smith plays the Red Skull.....did the Skull have a henchman or agent named Anderson? Or did they blow a good opportunity for a Matrix easter egg? I can just imagine Weaving/Skull saying "Herr Anderson" or "Mister Anderson"....

Rotten Tomatoes is also not overwhelming.

It was nice at the end of 2008 Hulk to see him inducing the change and smiling as his eyes lit up.....remains to be seen if his inducement of the change leaves enough of his IQ accessible while as the Hulk or if as the Hulk if he gets too angry....well....you know...

Only thing that could make that shirt more epic is if the Hulk was on it with that slogan.

Well part of the Hulk's appearance change would be CGI tech evolving between films, didn't they use a different CGI company also? Could be mistaken. Also director/producer vision for how Hulk should appear. I liked the sublte touch in 2008 Hulk in that he looked kind of Grey-Green in color instead of just bright green. A subtle nod to the Grey Hulk perhaps?

Bana seemed to play the repressed, weepy, nerdy Banner who wandered the Earth for many issues, crying over his Hulk problem whenever he would change into Savage Hulk. It wasn't until the last scene of the movie with those troops that Banner didn't seem all that weepy eyed about his problem as he warned them that they were making him angry and that they wouldn't like him angry.

Norton seemed to be like how Banner was at the start of the Hulk comic, smart, somewhat emotional, afraid of the Hulk and wanting to be rid of it, but also not going all weepy eyed and capable of showing a good range of emotions such as his shock, fear and outrage when he found out how much Sterns was experimenting and harvesting that blood sample he sent him. This was also the Banner that we had in the early issues of the comic that realized the only thing to save the day was the HULK and would zap himself with the gamma machine to trigger the change into a brutish but still heroic Hulk. the savage HULK SMASH Hulk wouldn't come until years later.


For me they should try a third movie that gives us the Hulk as he was in the beginning and currently is in the comic: brutish, not as smart as Banner, able to speak more then HULK SMASH! Bring his power levels back up to comic book level, remember HULK can face THOR in direct combat the Hulk we had in 2008 couldn't IMO. Have a stock footage cameo of Bixby, a Ferrigno cameo, a suitable Jack Kirby tribute, Stan's cameo, and then move on with the film. Also I'd be sorely tempted to have Grey Hulk pop up for a bit in the movie too.

That's for sure. I remember the controversy/fallout well. Kind of surpassed Northstar of Alpha Flight coming out of the closet.

Well accident or not, watching your father kill your mother is going to traumatize you ( or at least one would think that it would).

As to the physical abuse not being in the movie, well it's possible Ang Lee didn't want that or else certain regulations prohibited it. Parent groups and all that........

Still the Ang Lee movie boils down to: father thinks son is genetic freak/monster due to his own mutated DNA passing to Bruce. Upon seeing the Hulk he still thinks he's a freak/monster that should be both studied and put down hence why as the Absorbing Man he tried to absorb all the Hulk's power and life force but at this point his lunacy and god complex had resurfaced. The son thinks the father was always a monster and hates him even more for remembering that he killed his mother.

The sins of the father truly haunt the son in the Ang Lee Hulk.

Part of the release of emotions could also be attributed to the fact that his brain tissue is changing with the rest of him and that there is likely a physical component that makes it hard to control himself on top of the psychological trauma.

Also I liked how they kept with the fact that his father killed his mother, the only change being that in the movie it was an accident since they struggled and fell and the knife hit her. In the comic, his father was drunk and physcially abusive to Banner and his mother and then when they tried to flee his father killed her as he silently watched.

I myself liked most of Kyle's run, however what I didn't like was WHAT WAS DONE to Hal and the GLC/Guardians to bring Kyle into the GL Mythos. Emerald Twilight was such utter shock value junk. I saw the original plot/script for Emerald Twilight and it would have been better to have gotten that.

Still, I thank Geoff Johns for straightening out the whole mess with GL:Rebirth and keeping Kyle alive and part of the GL mythos.

Main difference between the two movies, aside from CGI tech improving between the two:

Ang Lee got the Hulk's power level CORRECT. The scene of Hulk running full speed across the desert and leaping for miles in one leap = comic book accurate. If you listen as he fights the military you hear all the vehicle pilots/personnel checking in that they are ok, again in keeping with the comic book magic that the Hulk killed no one that attacked him.

Turning his father into the Absorbing Man just so the Hulk could have a super villain to fight: ok that is where the movie kinda jumped the shark for me. I liked the father vs. son conflict but was hoping his father would use some type of super military tech.

2008 Hulk movie: nice movie, Ed Norton was a good Banner but for the love of humanity people the days of the Bixby/Ferrigno series are LONG OVER. I don't mind the cameo of Ferrigno or the footage of Bixby that was used, and yes the lab accident is fine for how he becomes the Hulk (especially since bombs are so un-politic these days), but too many fans have their memories stuck in the old TV series it seems. Especially in regards to the Hulk's power levels. Had both Hulk and Abomination been at their comic book power level, the city would and should have been a smoking pile of rubble. Nice touch though with Hulk and Abomination colliding in front of the Apollo theatre

Also nice Captain America tie in by using the Super Soldier serum on Blonsky.

It's like this:

WAAAAYY back in 1962 the first issue of the Hulk came out, and he was colored Grey. Or at least supposed to be, back then maintaining grey scale was problematic and in some panels he looked red-orange, yellow, green, red, grey, etc. So for issue 2 it was decided that Hulk should be another color and they chose green, and recaps of Hulk's origin were RETCONNED into him being green at the start and not grey.

Hulk's personality/intelligence would vary at the time, he was Banner but very brutish and easily angered. After 6 issues the book was cancelled and the Hulk appeared in Tales to Astonish with Ant-man and the Wasp having stories of their own in that book as well. Hulk's personality still fluctuated a lot and for a time extreme stress would turn Banner into the Hulk, but if the Hulk got too enraged he would revert to Banner. Massive exposure to atomic energy altered them so that we had Savage Banner for a short time, (Banner's body, Hulk's rage), eventually things settled into rage turning him into the Hulk and calming down would revert the change, and Hulk would soon become the classic "HULK SMASH" mentality.

Years later they began to hint that Banner was a multiple personality head case, and i efforts to cure himself via gamma rays, and being exposed in space to even more gamma rays and being sent back to Earth via a gamma powered teleporter, we ended up with Banner Hulk for a time. This was Banner in control of the changes and retaining his full intellect but with a small caveat, if he got too angry as Hulk, the savage Hulk would start to show until Banner calmed down.

Eventually things worsened and we had a mindless Hulk due to Banner's mind effectively shutting down for a time. Dr. Strange banished Hulk to a dimensional crossroads in the hope that Hulk could find a place to be happy. Banner slowly returns and Hulk gets back to Earth but is subdued by Doc Samson with a mental assist from Banner. Samson then splits them, but the process is flawed and we end up with a totally Banner-less Hulk on the rampage that took every Avenger at the time to face, and Banner was dying. Hulk eventually started dying too and they were merged by Samson, but thanks to interference from General Ross who sent Rick Jones into the chemical vat that was being used to merge them, Rick Jones emerged as a version of the Hulk and we got the original Grey Hulk back.

Grey Hulk is smarter then Green, but not as smart as Banner. Grey's strength is lower then green's and he can build up power as he gets mad but it takes him longer then green. On the other hand, Grey is cunning, clever and is Banner's repressed ego, he can and will do things that Banner won't and is the version of the Hulk mostly likely to kill. (he hasn't though). Rick Jones was soon cured and we had only the Grey Hulk and Banner. Their transformation was automatic at sunset with Grey emerging and sunrise with Banner returning and it was clear they were different personalities. Even if they were underground and couldn't see a clock, the transformation would still happen somehow.

Eventually as Banner hops a train to get to where Betty was at, he has a run in with Mr. Hyde, an ironic confrontation as the character of Mr.Hyde is part of the basis of the creation of the Hulk. Hyde is lecturing Banner on the darkside of the human mind and that he should revel in the power of the Hulk, and then he states that the real reason the transformation happens at sunset is that Banner is ashamed of the grey hulk and what he represents. This seems to touch a nerve and though the sun was still out (albeit setting), grey hulk emerges and fights Mr. Hyde.

To add further fuel to the split personality issue as Banner is approaching where Betty was at, he is captured (it's daytime) by a character in a special vehicle that has been pursuing him. THe driver comments that he has him bagged (literally in a plastic bag) and that Banner looks furious enough to leap out of his skin. Ironic words indeed for in keeping Banner from Betty this rather enraged Banner and he literally DID tear out of his skin as the GREEN HULK returned. However inside Green's head we can see Banner and Grey arguing. In a later encounter, Grey prevented Banner from getting angry enough to release the green hulk and told Banner to get unashamed him now in order to save Betty. Banner agreed and Grey Hulk came out.

Doc Samson eventually does some rapid hypno therapy to Banner and his minds that shows us Banner's childhood and how his dad was drunk, abusive and how his dad killed his mother(murder 1) in front of his eyes as a kid. As a kid Banner never reacted or showed emotion, hence all the problems Banner would have later. Samson's therapy ended with the three personas merging into a merged Hulk. Power of Green, attitude of Grey, brains of Banner. Of course this wouldn't last.

As it stands now in the comic thanks to Planet Hulk and World War Hulk we have what is referred to as the Gravage Hulk. Power of Green, mostly the grey's intellect and attitude with Banner as a moderating influence and Gravage and Banner are basically living as a timeshare. However we also have had a new version of the Hulk emerge at the end of WWH and he's back again in the latest issue. This version has only been seen twice and only when his close friend Rick Jones was badly wounded.....this version of the Hulk glows a bright green and is so powered with rage that one tiny footstep will shatter tectonic plates and cause massive quakes. This is known as the WORLDBREAKER HULK.

Better then him being Parallax again