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Quote:Images won't really do much - as I recall, discussion seemed to narrow the sonic graphics issue down to the kinda-sorta visible nature of the shields plus movement.Originally Posted by Tauge
Barrier does look similar to how I remember the old sonic graphics. I don't have any problems with it, nor did I have problems with Sonic, nor do I know anyone having problems now or back them.
This does need to be further explored by the devs and the community, and should be changed if it's an issue. I've looked, albeit briefly, for images of the old sonic powers, but didn't have any success. If someone does have screens, or better yet video, of them, perhaps a comparison can and should be made.
For instance, this:
doesn't really give much of an idea of just how *bad* these were. (And that's from the official Issue 5 overview page.)
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Quote:If the sonic shields issue was any indication, that may help some people to some extent, but not all.Originally Posted by ultrawatt
Sounds to me like they might just need to increase their ambient lighting. If i dont have the lights on when i play i get nauseous because of all the bright flashes.
That is, after all, part of the reason for one of the questions.
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Quote:If the missions were only available - say - for one hour a week, or even one hour a day, and closed off at all other times, I'd call "exclusive access" an argument as I'd want to see as many people able to go through them during the limited time as possible.Originally Posted by Gunstar
This is the crux of the argument. Those advocating for locked leagues see these as "my missions", where those wanting not to kick PUGs see it as everyone passes through the LFG, thus no one has exclusive access to these two (2) missions.
However, the missions are always available, and leagues are continually forming - even on lower population servers. Having someone not able to join one specific team on one specific run through does not preclude them from joining another team that's wide open (and I believe that open "PUG" leagues would remain the majority of those formed.) -
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Sorry for the not very descriptive title.
What I'm trying to get a feel for here is how widespread issues with the Incarnate buff graphics are, and how easily (or not) it is to mitigate or remove the effects.
(Edit: There are some other graphics as well getting brought up - may as well bring them all to the attention of the devs.)
A ways back (ancient forum history,) I (and others) had to fight for a good year and a half about power graphics. Not from an aesthetic standpoint - we weren't arguing for power customization (though it was an option brought up on occasion.) More from a medical one. The old Sonic graphics were causing physical pain to some of the playerbase. I was "fortunate," if I could use that word, that I didn't suffer from migraines - but the old sonic graphics still caused me problems enough that I'd have to log off and just go curl up somewhere after not very long.
At the cost of a great number of headaches (and as I recall, a bit of nausea,) I went through and tried to isolate it as *anything else* in the game for me. Definitely isolated it to Sonic. Put up with (well, no, didn't put up with - got into some nasty fights with) people calling those who suffered from these issues "liars" and "hypochondriacs." And yes, was a thorn in the devs side for a while - I don't believe a video game should cause the player pain, after all.
After a year and a half of fighting, the graphics were changed.
Now, not only am I hearing complaints from friends who have to reach for their migraine meds again, but I'm getting contacted privately by people who are having problems with a new set of graphics. The Barrier graphics seem to be the most commonly pointed out to me.
Fortunately for me, I'm not affected. Unfortunately, I do know of some people (including a good friend) who are. Part of me shakes my head and wonders if the devs didn't learn their lesson before - and part of me suspects the devs who *did* learn, finally, that this was an issue to watch for are no longer around. (And before anyone gets snippy at that, I have nothing against new devs and art folks - but if they're not aware of issues like this, they need to have them brought up.)
In any case, a few questions:
- Are you affected by any of the new Incarnate graphics? Which ones? (This is not someplace to say "Yes, I think they're ugly." I'm talking physically affected. Migraine triggers and the like.)
- If it's not you, do you know of someone who is?
- What problems (if you don't mind, I know this one can be a bit personal - but it helps to know "It triggers my migraine" versus "I get an uncontrollable urge to Samba.")
- Does anything (such as recoloring) help you deal with it?
For me:
- No. Possibly because they're short term or obscured.
- Yes. One personally, a few secondhand (by PM or other conversation.)
- Migraines seem to be the most commonly mentioned.
- Unknown.
Edit:
The thread's already barely three hours old and we have a "If you have these problems, don't play video games" post. Since if/when that's modded, the post and my reply will disappear, I'm going to make this clear here.
If you post that sort of thing, I *will* ask the mods to remove it. After what happened during the fight to change Sonic graphics, I have *zero* tolerance for it, and will do my best to keep you from turning this into a flame war. Nasty, hurtful and inconsiderate comments WILL be reported. While I may not have the power to change the posts, I will report them. I *can* most certainly be a PITA to the mods if that starts.
If you're posting about your issues with powers and see those posts, please don't respond to them. Ignore them or /ignore them. Falling for flamebait like that does nothing to help and only obscures the problem. -
Quote:Players would not be denied access to the missions. Only to a specific team forming at a specific time. Much like they don't get to tag along on my SG-only TF, or my solo mission, or my "project team" missions - but are more than welcome (barring being jerks) on my PUGs.Originally Posted by Gunstar
99.9% of the game works the way we expect. Two (2) missions out of the whole game are different and to deny players acess to these two missions, because the leader can, is unreasonable.
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Quote:There are no "dead servers."Originally Posted by GPBunny
XP and drop increase for low pop servers. This would help spread out the population to reduce lag and to breath life back into dead servers.
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Quote:Your point that you don't want to accept that others would like other things, so you put your hands over your ears and shout "Not listening?"Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
No. My point has been made. It's simply not a point you wish to accept, so you are doing your best to ignore and trivialize it.
That's okay though. Watching someone put their hands over their ears and shout "Not listening!" is always amusing.
Yes, you've made that very well. If you want to make yourself look like someone who should not be listened to - excellent work! -
Quote:Yeah, I've got to agree.Originally Posted by Suzumebachi
Absolutely this. Some of us work, have kids, life etc. that means we can't drop everything for a one-off opportunity to partake in an event, even if it wasn't tied to a badge it would be a disappointment. Tied to a badge it's ludicrous.
It's 4-7 PM on a weeknight. (7-10 for me actually.) And I work (essentially) second shift. So... yeah.
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Quote:Clue for you:Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
And I'd say that your insistence on only associating with those you want to is just as psychotic.
Welcome to the real world. Shared by more than just you and your immediate clique of friends. Try to play nice.
It's not an "Either or." People CAN decide "I just want to do this myself this time," or "I just want to deal with my friends this time," and then say "Hey, let's just grab anyone and do this" the next day. People want *the flexibility to choose.*
It's not "Psychotic" for me to decide that, this Saturday, I just want to have a few friends over to hang out and maybe watch a DVD or two, eat pizza and have a good time with them as opposed to heading into the middle of the city and doing stuff there. Nor is it "non-psychotic" for me to decide I want to stand around with a few hundred to a few thousand people I don't know at a concert or big movie premiere. It's a choice on how I want to spend my time and who I want to spend it with at that particular instance.
Really. You're reaching to try to make some sort of point. And missing. -
Pfft. I always jump around levels.
290 alts. 264 or so left to get to 50. -
Quote:*nod*Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
My friends and I had started an SG once of characters with names like this...
"That Darn Hero"
"An IRS Auditor"
"My Accountant"
"My Cat Nibbles"
Had a (short lived, thanks to another SG starting up and taking more time) duo a while back with another player. Don't remember exactly what the names were, but something like 'A tiny kitten' and 'A lost puppy.'
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Quote:Y'know... just for a tangent...Originally Posted by Bloodspeaker
Our SG would like to run these trials as SG events. Several members of our SG are prone to seizures resulting from certain types of visual stimuli. EVERY one of our SG members has a costume slot dedicated to minimizing this risk - i16 was a godsend for this reason, if no other. Getting some random add from LFG who has almost certainly NOT taken this consideration into account... Must. Be. Kicked.
I'm one of those that fought and argued against the dev team for a solid year and a half because of the old Sonic Dispersion graphics, JUST for this reason. They gave me headaches, and I'm not prone to migraines. They would force friends to have to log off for the night - and potentially the next day, staying in a nice dark room and trying to get past their head trying to explode.
The current graphics don't bother me - other than thinking some are ugly. But after that fight, what WERE the devs thinking by putting these in? OK, I argued back when BABs was around - is *nobody* around dealing with power effects from that time, too?
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Quote:Not necessarily.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
In other words, if you don't like the service as presented, you are free to eat elsewhere.
Do show where else I can "eat" some nice, tasty iXP. Outside the trials, it's like comparing a five course meal in that restaraunt to a vienna sausage you found that had rolled under a dumpster in an alley. -
Quote:This isn't comparing viewpoints. This is trying to show you just how negatively you seem to be painting everyone else in game. I really don't know if you're aware of it. Heck, grabbing those quotes, it actually surprised ME to find that many.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I thought you were trying to avoid comparing viewpoints with me because we don't see eye to eye on this?
I thought you might need to have that - aggressive though this sounds - put in front of your face so you could *see* it, especially with you making that comment.
You *are* biased, badly. Yes, you could say the same thing about me, I suppose, but it looks like what you've gone through in game has badly colored your perception of the rest of the playerbase.Quote:I've had countless personal attacks (both in an out of game), a global channel (that I used to be an active mod on) that was useful subverted and degraded to the point that even the GMs are saying "just move to another channel" (they can't do anything because some undisclosed player gave someone else mod status), all for the "fun" of a bunch of players that have mostly moved to another server. However those player's attitudes can be found throughout these threads. Also take a look a Rylas' last few posts in the other thread, is name calling really appropriate?
Most of the people I team with are decent people. They are people that would give up their time to help another player out. However there are enough players in these threads that seem to not want to team with others that it does appear that there will not be many open leagues.
I don't know the whole story about your channel and you getting personal attacks. Hell, you'd probably expect *me,* given my being as headstrong, stubborn and generally grumpy as I tend to be, to be the target of similar things - but I'm not. My global's not obvious, but it's also not hard to find, and given I'm welcomed by (fourm) name on Freedom (RO groups, usually, but often mixed or nearly pure PUG) of all places - a server I tend to cut on more often than not - I have yet to experience any sort of attack. The times I'm on one of my namesakes and someone says something, it's usually nothing more than "hi" or "Oh, the forum guy?"
I could see it, and losing a channel you created, really coloring your view, though. And honestly, it's something I'm sorry to hear. You and I don't see eye to eye, and I don't believe we've ever generally gotten along, but it's not the sort of experience I want to hear of anyone having.
As far as locking, people not wanting to team and such....
There are a *very* few who sound like they don't want to team with others at times - period. I can think of... oh, two. And one of them I *know* hops on teams anyway, just catching snatches of his conversations in one of the global channels on Pinnacle.
The majority of those arguing against you (and Hyperstrike, and Arcanaville... I guess you three are the major ones arguing for status quo here) aren't saying they don't want to team with others. Including me. Some haven't stated a preference at all, honestly. But the majority? An option to lock for the times they want a certain playstyle, that's all. That is not an argument for permanently locking them, or refusing to team with others, or "elitism" or whatever else it may be painted as. I'm arguing for it, and I've just been running on several trials over on Guardian - no kicking, no desire to, and probably 75% of the people there have no idea which character was mine, or for that matter who I am.
All that's being asked for is the ability.
And yes, I *do* believe the playerbase in general will use it responsibly.
(Edit: And I do think you're reading Wendy wrong - but I also get the feeling you're both grating on each other at this point, and backing off is probably the wisest course of action.) -
Quote:Because people aren't interested in running them hourly?Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
If you were correct, why don't we see hourly Hami raids or ship raids?
Amazing, that.
I think, even when they were *new,* the most I saw were 2, MAYBE 3 ship raids in a row. And that hasn't been for years.
Sounds like you're really reaching.
The Mothership raid has a benefit in having Vanguard merits drop through the whole thing (assuming, of course, you've gone through the introductory arc.) Hamidon - you can go through 3/4 of it, get DCd and get nothing... while you can get the same reward (as far as the Hami-os) by running a STF or LRSF. Smaller, easier to organize, faster to get started, no massive 50-person lag.
Now, are you going to try to link - oh, Lusca, perhaps - to this in some way? It's as irrelevant as what you brought up here. -
Quote:... y'know, I just have to point out how *amusing* this is coming from the person who is practically insisting in the other thread that, should we be able to lock leagues, that's all that would ever happen.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
You really have a dim view of players.
Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeFar more likely is that people will lock the teams and continue to lock the teams even if they wouldn't normally kick an additional player.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeLocking the league will become habit and they'll eventually just stop rationalizing why they are locking.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeMore people will lock the leagues than will leave them open. I'm seeing it already with people just trying to use the team lock for this. Allowing locking will kill any chance for the LFG to actually work.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow Globe
My problem is that I don't see that being the norm if people can lock the league.
My problem with the idea of a league lock is that this will be the norm, not open leagues.And that people who kick do so purely because they're antisocial and/or jerks.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeHowever instead of seeing the open invites as a good thing, the group-thought seems to be centred on how outside people are unwanted.
Quote:Originally Posted by snow globeThe players doing the kicking will have all manner of rationalizations, but all of those reasons boil down to "I don't want to team with outsiders or people I don't know."Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeIt means that the system designed to get them on a team as quickly as possible is being subverted by a bunch of jerks that are willing to punish someone that they don't knowQuote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeThe developers are smart enough to realize that some people will be jerks and will kick people from the league.... and those aren't even ALL the instances - from ONE THREAD.Quote:Originally Posted by Snow GlobeIt is human nature. There will always be more excuses (and that is all that they are, excuses) to turn away people than reasons to team with people you don't know.
Before telling others they have a dim view of players - best check yourself out. Your view of everyone else, going by what I've quoted here, is absolutely horrible. As grumpy and cynical as I tend to be here, I seem to have FAR more faith in my fellow players in my little toe than you seem to evidence in total.
Did you even LOOK at that thread and realize just how much you were pounding that drum, Snow Globe?
I have to wonder why. Is your teaming experience that horrible that you expect that from everyone you meet? I know my general faith in the playerbase comes from the folks I play with - not just my circle of friends, but expanding out to the people I PUG with, run trials with, the small supergroups and the multi-SG groups like RO and the LoC. There are some jerks, yes - but I've found most of this playerbase worthy of the faith I put in their treatment of each other. -
Quote:Your powers of perception are incredible.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
So you're trying to say there's no difference between someone who boots people just before the awards screen of a TF and someone who boots someone from an undropped raid group because they're ineligible to participate (no Going Rogue, etc)?
... incredibly bad.
I'm saying someone who boots before it even starts isn't even on the scale.
I don't think it's any more "valid" than worries of, oh, an "elitist" ITF. Again, will some people use it? Sure. Just like some people now only invite SG mates or global friends to teams. But that it's actually a big problem to worry about? No.Quote:I still think the trepidation some people feel, that it will be used as an excuse to segregate the player population, is a valid and this issue needs to be addressed. -
Quote:There is no "scale" for just booting someone for something the team leader has *zero* control over. If they could control the invites, and then invited and immediately booted someone, you'd have a starting point for that.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
But it doesn't remove one from the scale.
So... again....
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Quote:Noticed you cut the rest out.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
It isn't an either/or.
People will lock leagues even if they wouldn't normally kick someone that came in from the queue.
You and others are assuming that only people that will kick others will lock the leagues, that isn't likely the case. Far more likely is that people will lock the teams and continue to lock the teams even if they wouldn't normally kick an additional player.
Here's one you didn't bother putting up:
The *exact same league leader* will *sometimes* lock a queue for a special event and other times NOT lock a queue for a special event.
Just like the *exact same person* will sometimes solo or team only with friends, and other times will put together or join a PUG.
Don't throw "It isn't an either or" at me and set your OWN "either/or" as an absolute.
Will SOME people always lock? Sure. And right on the other end of the scale, some people will always just run PUGs. And everyone else is right in between. -
Quote:Actually, no.Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
It's up to you how patient you want to be, waiting for that new content, but please don't say that the end game is nothing but raiding, because that is just false. We haven't even seen half of what the entirety will be, to know one way or the other.
End game right now: Raiding.
Revealed end game (Keyes Island) : Raiding.
After that: Unknown. More raiding is, I believe, confirmed. "Alternate paths," small team/solo content is, at best, alluded to. The value of that really depends on your attitude towards the devs and things they've "worked on" and "looked at" prior to this.
So I can definitely see where they feel the end game system is just a series of raids. No, we don't know all of it, but if they see that and see what's officially announced, I can certainly understand being dismayed if it's all a type of gameplay they don't like. -
Quote:We have teaming now. We have the ability to hide from searches. We have global friend lists which allow you to form a team without ever looking at the team search window.Originally Posted by Snow Globe
My problem is that I don't see that being the norm if people can lock the league.
This hasn't prevented people from forming PUGs. I'd suggest that PUGs (including partial-PUGs) are the most common form of teaming for missions and TFs.
Frankly - and coming from me, this is saying something - I think you're being overly cynical and pessimistic about it.
Of course, I also think the LFG tool was released half-finished, too.
OK, so which is it:Quote:My problem with the idea of a league lock is that this will be the norm, not open leagues.
I agree that it would mean that less people get kicked, but I don't think kicking is rampant.
A. Locked leagues will be the norm - which implies, frankly, that kicking and similar behaviour are the norm NOW (which to me also implies you should be eager for a solution to curb it,) or
B. Kicking isn't rampant, in which case this will be an option used on occasion by special groups who just want to try something specific (whether that be an SG-specific event, AT-specific, Friends only or what have you.)
Then stop saying it, because it's not true (other than in individual cases. Sure, some people are. Kicking someone, however, is not the benchmark for jerk-ness.)Quote:I don't get a thrill out of saying that people that are kicking are jerks.
They have free rein *now.* Providing those controls will let those who want specific groups to have them, while letting those in the LFG queue avoid them and not - as someone else put it - "waste their time" getting put onto a group that didn't want them there in the first place.Quote:However I am really saddened by the attitudes expressed by those wanting free reign to kick people for little to no reason. -
Quote:... I really wish I had more room in my signature.Originally Posted by Dark One
"Looking into" basically equates to: They are forming a committee to discuss the ramifications of leveraging team synergy into an action group to contemplate the possibility of at some point in the unspecified future meeting to brainstorm on the feasibility of adding a 1 in 1000 mob drop rate for Incarnate items.
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Quote:Depending on the game.Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
The Trials are not raiding.
Raiding takes 1-5 hours a night, 5-7 nights a week. The trials take, at their very worst, an hour and a half to complete.
Try a fortress raid in Aion some time. Yes, admittedly a PVPVE (truly - three sides to it) raid, but they didn't take *that* long. (Well, unless you count raiding for ... gah, I forget what they're called now, basically points on the map that give various buffs or offensive abilities. People will do those long before, or do a lightning strike to them just after the raid starts.)
About the closest we have to that is RV... and that's a very weak shadow of it.