Mad_Scientist_JC
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With the Well, I have a theory that I'm going with. What we speak with isn't the Well, but something that has infected the Well however long ago. This is what's talking to us, and what speaks through the Incarnates. In the Ross arcs, we get images of some thing falling from the sky and defeating Merulina. The arc implies that that entity is the Well, but if all Wells are attached to species, than our Well should have been on Earth or connected to it. I think that the Battalion sent a scout, we don't know how long they've been collecting energy sources like the Well, so they could be near timeless themselves.
I think that the Battalion has slowly infected the Well over time and is now posing as the Well to those seeking power. It encourages you to just dunk your head in and get power, but then it can control you. So the strongest and best of us will be snatching up power, but risking the control of the Well. So when the Battalion shows up, the strongest among us are now liabilities, possible sleeper agents. The reason Cole was chosen as its champion was to encourage the war between dimensions, and force even more to HAVE to turn to the Well and gain power as quickly as possible. In the coming Battalion battles, those of us that took the slower paths will have to find a way to purge the Well of its invader, and return it to a pure source of power.
Although I don't mind the Well having a mind of its own, but I'd like it to be more of a lively inanimate, something we can communicate with, but not necessarily just talk to. Like how Sam describe it in his story. -
Quote:One thing I thought would have been cool is, instead of using the Signature heroes as trainers, and just TF contacts, have them actually patrolling their maps. If Lusca just sits there long enough, when she's going to despawn, she should go friendly and then have Statesman fly in and fight her into submission. Or see Manticore slinking around Brickstown rounding up escaped prisoners. Instead of them just standing there and telling us to go do stuff for them. Then they would have been neat little zone events and we could feel like the Phalanx is right there with us fighting crime.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Quote:I agree with Nihilii. Actions can be seen many ways. Take Statesman's response when you ask him about Incarnate powers, sure he gives a reasonable answer that too many people with Incarnate powers would be trouble, and I can see that, but imagine how many lives could be saved in the next big disaster if there were more Incarnates, so clearly States is just blowing smoke because he doesn't want anyone else to have power comparable to him! Or he's such a coward that he'd sacrifice countless lives just to avoid having to deal with more Incarnates. Or he's had the powers for so long and knows better than any the curse that this kind of power brings and wouldn't wish it on anyone else. You could write him any way you want, but you can't force the reader to see the character that way.Originally Posted by Nihilii
I would just go with "different people have different opinions", especially when it comes to judging an individual. What is nobility to one person will be arrogance to another.
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Quote:Maybe next halloween we'll get a new costume pack that has one.Originally Posted by ketch
I'm still holding out for a witch's broom.
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Quote:No, I've seen enough sitcoms to know that we'll have to divide the zone up. We can start with a left right division, and then rotate every tuesday. So it can go Leaguers get the left, Soloists the right, then Leaguers get the top and Soloists the bottom, then Soloists get left and Leaguers right, then top, bottom, and back to left and right. Free-for-all on major holidays and leap year. No Refunds, Returns, or, Exchanges. This program has been know to cause cancer in the State of California.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
You could always play the story arcs and do the repeatable missions instead of just street sweeping
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Why is Donatello not the first staff fighter people think of? When I think staffs I think Donatello before Gambit.
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Quote:The Primal heroes in the trial take pot shots at you when you're not looking, so you don't make them look bad. I was going to say it was because you got your Incarnate powers from the Primal Well, but remembered it's the same Well for both, lol. And for good measure let's say GG and Scythus are right too.Originally Posted by Ogi
What about Incarnates originally from Praetoria?
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Quote:The rocks are made of a rare ore found on Praetoria, Primalite. All beings from Primal Earth are highly vulnerable to them, Incarnate or no. The next trial will be us trying to shut down the mining operation that provided the civilian with this deadly weapon.Originally Posted by Ogi
Then if anti-tank missiles can't hurt your pacified squishy WHY SHOULD MERE ROCKS EVEN BE A CONCERN?
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Quote:Which Gorilla? Because if it was Grodd, that's a talking PSYCHIC gorilla, which totally merits teaming.Originally Posted by 80sBaby
GL and Flash work together to defeat a talking gorilla (yeah, that sounds like a real threat.) And plenty more.
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Quote:Which wiki page or whatever mentions that all super powers were because of the Well? I want to take a look at it, never seen something that said that. Is this mentioned in game?Originally Posted by Melancton
Servant as in "Slave."
The Devs were very thorough, too. I read in a Wiki commentary that Hero 1 had gotten his Incarnate abilities via the Lady of the Lake and the article concluded that the Well was "a" way to Incarnate abilities, not "the" way. The Devs then carefully made sure that the Lore was that ALL superpowers, not just all Incarnate abilities, were actually given by the Well, no exceptions. As that Noted Philosopher, Sigourney Weaver, opined in "Galaxy Quest": "Well, screw THAT!"
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Quote:Cole Killed Recluse if I recall right, and Nemesis is a no-body.Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
Oh, and I have a Praetorian lore question (cuz I'm not terribly familiar with it): what happened to the Praetorian versions of Lord Recluse and Nemesis?
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Quote:Fair enough, suppose I should say Self Preservation requires an aversion to death or the general end of one's existence. But anything that is supposedly mindless still wouldn't act out of self preservation.Originally Posted by Wing_Leader
Since when? For all living things on this planet which exhibit self-directed behavior, self-preservation is genetically encoded as an instinct, not a cognitive process requiring a temporal lobe.
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Quote:But the Well isn't mindless. Self Preservation requires sentience, sentience requires a mind. From that description, the way to boil this all down is, the Well is afraid. The Well isn't handing out power because it's responding to will or ambition, it's grasping at straws to get someone it can control to protect itself. Which all of this is contradictory of what we've been told the Well is. I don't think we're speaking to the Well at any point, I think we're talking to the first Champion of the Well. The creature that landed on earth and defeated Merulina, gained this power and after some time something forced it into dormancy. States and Recluse lucked out in finding the Well and getting some small offering of power, but now the Champion senses this threat that is going to steal away the power of the Well and is masquerading as the Well to drum up some 'champions' that it can control, so that it never has to actually share the power, only lend it.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
According to Prometheus, yes.
Also, the Well of the Furies has only recently "woken up" because it senses a threat to its very existence - to protect itself against this coming danger, it's chosen a champion to protect it - but because it's a mindless entity that only responds to power and the use of power, it's chosen Tyrant to be its champion - it doesn't care how he uses power - all that matters to it is that he's somene who will use its power when it's given to them, unlike Statesman and Recluse.
Becasue he's taken this massive amount of cosmic power all at once, he's now under the control of the Well - but again, unlike Statesman and Recluse, he's not trying to avoid its control, which is why he's become its champion.
We're just tapping into the Well a little at a time, which keeps us free of its control - we're basically fighting against the Well using its own power - but because its mindless, it doesn't care - whoever wins the Praetorian war will be the most powerful, and that's all that matters to it.
As to what danger the Well has sensed approaching, it seems likely that it's something that'd want to get hold of a cosmic power source in the same way that it devours worlds and burns Kheldians and fuel for its starships. -
Quote:We may want to leave things alone, or somehow the Well of the Furies will get involved in the answer. He's very insecure you know. Always trying to worm his way into any back story he can.Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
At least at issue 1 launch servers couldn't handle more than that many on at a time per-server.
And as i mentioned, all it would really take to make it a bit more believable is if the KoA had a special "Teleport away" defeat animation. -
I think one of the biggest issues with the Incarnate system right now is that it's young. We only have the Praetorians to fight off now, but I'm holding out some optimism that once we get the Coming Storm and Battalion into the mix, and as it expands, some of those complaints will go away. I do hope that the Battalion stuff has a similar set up, the 'entry' level trials, like Baf, Lam and Keyes, and going up to the more level shift required trials, like the others. At least then when the Praetorian threat has passed the new up and coming villains and heros can test their mettle against the most recent world destroying threat. We're in a transition phase, and hopefully the devs will learn from the Praetorian trials and get a healthy medium for the future trials. I would love some smaller style trials, especially if they're alignment specific. So Villains incarnates can be bad as we want to be, and Heroes can be more proactive in some smaller scale assaults. Granted, we may get some things like this in the Solo path, which I am really looking forward to. I wager that if the Solo path is good it will re-spark my interest in the trials. We really just have to wait, voice our opinions and hope for the best.
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Quote:This is one of the reason I'm looking forward to the Solo content, so that my wife and I can play some incarnate stuff together and not have to worry about getting in a trial.Originally Posted by damienray
I'd be thrilled if me & the wifey could do iTrials with 2 to start !!
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Quote:I know she was siphoning more power from somewhere, the god in DA, wasn't it? So, though she may not be attached to Cole doesn't mean she's not got some boost up her ethereal sleeve. That may be another choice to gain Incarnate powers, steal them from someone else.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I wonder of the Diabolique Trial in I22 will be slightly smaller scale, as she mightn't have any link to the Well now that she's free from Tyrant's control?
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Quote:I would give Penelope my heart, but I don't have a heart to give. SKUUULLLL JOOOKKKEEEE.Originally Posted by ryu_planeswalker
So what you are saying that if CWK gets his body back he will be a skeleton with an afro?
YOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
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Quote:Wow, then that really ratchets up the creepy. The CW King's interest in Penelope has a real paternal ring to it, not as much of a romantic one. Granted, there is still the different writers thing, so maybe someone else just took it in that direction.Originally Posted by Scythus
Actually the Clockwork King was supposed to be extremely young when he died (late teenage years/early twenties), so it's rather unlikely he'd have a daughter Penelope's age. Considering that Praetorian Penelope's mother is Praetorian Vanessa DeVore, it seems possible that the parentage may be the same in Primal Earth.
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You know, just so happens I know of a slightly used and/or blown up cloning lab in Sharkhead that he could use to whip up a new body. I would be willing to sell it for a reasonable price. I've wondered if Penelope is CW King's daughter or something. When he pops in and says he'll protect her from everything, even boys and all that. The way he speaks about her, and the fact that she is a ridiculously powerful psychic, and her dad seems to have no powers at all. Just wonder if that was going to be some reveal that got lost in a the shuffle of writers.
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Quote:They've been saying that for some time if I remember right, so not sure if it pertains to DA. I thought Blue Steel was going to be involved with getting into DA for heroes, so I assumes Kings Row would be the launch point for heroes, like the vanguard stations lead to the RWZ.Originally Posted by Agent White
just some idle speculation, but I was thinking about it today. Both Percy Winkley and Ashley McKnight will tell you after completing their respective arcs that you'll need to come see them when you're 50. This of course does nothing right now.
So maybe they're the planned entry ways into Dark Astoria. A dark god subverting reality is right up the Midnight Club's alley afterall -
Quote:The initial batch of Frostlings with him are Zone level, as he fights someone, he will summon up more frostlings at the level of who he is fighting. So if a lvl 50 takes some potshots at him, he summons up some lvl 50 frostys.Originally Posted by Agent White
That is patently not true. I've seen -several- Winterlords in Atlas, in Cap, and other zones where the Frostlings were way way -way- higher level than the zone cap. I was personal witness to a spawn just under the Atlas statue that was over a dozen level 50 frostlings. The newbies were, to say the least, not pleased.
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Yes. Yes they can. Taken my Bane hero and back again.
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This will probably be the point that helping Wade blows up in the villains' faces and we have to stop him. Hence the Co-op map.
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Quote:One thing I did to circumvent the millimeter of health issue is I've kept brawl or my tranq dart in the tray. I have Elec armor, but haven't gotten the damage aura yet since it's murder on my End. Brawl has worked out surprisingly well, and thematically looks funny to just pommel bonk them. I was hoping to get kick or boxing to upgrade the minor attack, but have been told that'd I have to redraw, and that's no good.Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Actually, scratch that, my biggest annoyance has been that I tend to leave enemies with just slivers of health, and end up having to wait for Crushing Blow to recharge and re-animate without Momentum. This is actually probably helped my Endurance use overall, but if I make any more TW characters (right now in addition to the /EA, I have a /Regen as well), I think I'm going to go for a secondary with a damage aura.