Jophiel

While it's always nice to get new things, I hope this doesn't preclude us getting (free) unique PC pieces as well. Not everyone dreams of going around as an 80% accurate Carnie or Preatorian Cop.

Bots/FF should be plenty survivable right out of the box purely by virtue of being Bots/FF.

A minority opinion held only by a few vocal malcontents.

Speaking of Praetoria and older NPC models, I've noticed that most (all?) of the female NPCs in Praetoria seem to have been redone but the men are still the same classic block-figures. What's up with that?

Nor does it mean they listen all the time. In this thread, there's a fairly even number of vocal dissenters and vocal supporters. If you want to pretend that means there's a bajillion supporters and five dissenters, that's your own fantasy and have fun with it but it's meaningless in any real context.

I would assume the majority opinion is along the lines of "We don't care, we don't bother to follow the plot anyway; just give us stuff to punch".

Also Maria Jenkins (the arc and all the one-offs) and the Anti-Matter Arc from wos'ername.

Is this the new go-to to avoid needing a decent argument?

Because, judging from this thread, the "small vocal minority on the forums" with criticisms about Praetoria isn't much different than the "small vocal minority on the forums" defending it. Funny how the pro- group is so many times larger and yet only a handful have managed to find their voice.

But there isn't any lesson. I don't explore the depths of Battle Maiden's psyche and history to see how she turned evil and learn some lesson about intentions and morality. I just punch her in the face and continue to punch her in the face until she stops moving. And dodge blue patches of death while I do it.

Apparently all of them. Hence the Evil Goatee Earth thing.

Not to keep beating on the "Bizzarro Goatee Evil" thing but I just had an epiphany about a pretty obvious thing.

A big part of the issue is that Praetoria isn't just "What if Statesman was an even bigger jerk?" Rather it's "What if Statesman was a bigger jerk AND Sister Psyche decided to have an army of psychic slaves AND Positron made an evil robot army AND Synapse decided he needed an evil robot army too AND Manticore... umm.. decided to train people to be evil AND Valkyrie... uhh.. well, she decided to be evil too AND Mynx... erm... was even more obnoxious about the catgirl thing except, you know, evil AND Luminary..." etc etc etc

You could potentially try to create an alternate world in which Statesman, poor Statesman, loses his grip on humanity and have it not be a blanket "mirror world". Praetoria isn't that place. It's a place where every hero decided "Yeah, sure, let's do all sorts of screwed up stuff" and none of them said "Hey, I'm basically a good person and this Cole guy is messed up in the head. I'm not joining him, are you insane?" Rather, everyone is just issued an evil goatee and told to get to work in Bizzarro World.

The warehouses in Nova Praetoria where the door is a located under the road, by the river and looks like a maintenance access door. How do they load the trucks? There's no additional access anywhere?

I hate Skyway City for numerous reasons but they're all compounded by the fact that the skyways are pointless. Ignoring the "barely any cars" thing, if you follow them from end to end, they start as a two land road, open into a six lane road and then revert back into a two lane road with no other entrance/exit ramps or anything to justify their existence.

And, to be fair, I used to make the "How large is the budget for giant granite statues" joke but then RWZ came out with the ruined statues. Seeing that they're steel frames with a concrete shell over them and not solid stone made me feel a little better

Scott absolutely makes the choice to bomb the hospital, as shown by the fact that you can defuse the bombs around the building as part of the Loyalist arc. He can't be written off as someone who "resisted temptation".

There's some FBZ islands where you can just run a circuit and get them pretty quickly. They seem to spawn more reliably than in PI where you clear a spawn just to get more Warhulks or Min/Lt groups.

One of the biggest FBZ advantages is less competition with people who refuse to understand that it goes faster for everyone to just group rather than race to rush in first and grab them all yourself.

Which, realistically, probably has more to do with the technical feat of making Cole Memorial a burnt out shell next time you're sent there (say, after dying in Nova) than due to any moral implications. Pulling an NPC out of the game is a lot easier than pulling out a building.

Scott's change of plans was just an easy out to avoid having to program the actual consequences.