Jack_NoMind

And as you point out, a three-toggle set costs under .8, not 1.2. The example I gave is roughly consistent with a number of builds, not the solo accolade-less SO-only inherent-only baseline. That character is a polite fiction, but they do not seem to be the target of most new content rollouts.

Thank goodness, or we'd all be DM/SR or Staff/Dark. (Maybe a few edge /WP or SD builds, SD particularly for tanks, and fire/fire lunatics.) Which still beat those numbers. The only reason we're not in a constant state of "Don't Stop Believing"/"Freebird" is...

...lots of deletion later...

Okay, okay, you win. Immanetize the eschaton.

Edit : But I liked the prepocalypse. ;p

Edit 2 : And this is your fault.

Sure, it'll work. But just like inherent Fitness, it'll alter the metagame.

If your highest DPS attack chain costs 4.0 end/second, your toggles cost 1.2/second, and you can generate an effective 5.0/second, you have 550 seconds in which to win a fight with an endurance of 110 and no blues. Assuming your slotting is damage and recharge saturated, reducing your toggles' costs by .2, .4, or 1.2 isn't really going to meaningfully impact your offensive ability.

I used the phrase 'character building experience' intentionally. I know it isn't really balanced. Everyone who gets very deep into character building at all realizes this. There are objectively best combinations and whether or not any have actually been described there are some 90th-percentile or better builds running around out there. Even so, the experience of playing different sets, and developing the builds for various goals for them, is different enough that it's fun to have the options.

And it sure is a good thing we have IOs.

But -- and I'm going to hedge in a second so you know, be prepared -- what you're talking about there sounds like bad development. (Although actually RttC really should be a toggle or a click, probably a toggle unless it was Dark Regen-ified which would actually be kind of an interesting power now that I think of it... anyway I agree with at least that. My statement about quality is predicated on the idea that Willpower was not redesigned to behave functionally differently as a toggle/passive set vs a passive-only mitigation set, which I do not actually know but I infer from your comment about the recovery bonus being added explicitly to offset the toggle cost.) And my hedge is that bad decisions happen, sometimes because of errors, sometimes because of weird priorities, and sometimes because they're simply the best of a lot of possible bad decisions. And we are...

You're talking specifically about armor toggles, really. There are offensive and utility toggles in defensive sets, and they aren't balanced around armor costs.

...we are about to see something that kind of explodes this issue. And you've tested it and played with it; I haven't. This might be a conversation I have more interesting things to say about after it's been live for a bit.

Oh man this is really a conversation we shouldn't be having in open forum. I like our developers; I've liked all our developers and writers, even the so-often cursed Emmert. So I hate it when I have to say very unflattering things about certain choices.

But the short of it is, like, regardless of my own aesthetic or economic tastes, or you know like the existence of objectively better options insofar as number of goals met are concerned... highballing works. You're focused on an unquestionable mathematical reality but it's a subjective quality that's being promulgated here, and even though it is a subjective quality it has quantitatively measurable effects, like painting hospital rooms yellow instead of greenish black or giving a qwerty-user a dvorak keyboard.

I'm also still a little shell-shocked after playing some CO during a round of changes where they basically knocked over the mechanics and restacked them and are now rather frantically trying to keep the tower from toppling.

I certainly hope she would, as except for a very few cases it's definitely not true, and their pancakes aren't really good enough to make the low cost that appealing anyway.

Death of the author, Aett.

And I've definitely noted the irony of the topic pretty much each time I've looked at this thread.

Alright, so I was a bit over-generous in my uptime estimates; I really wasn't properly thinking of the multiplication of probabilities. But the recommendation stands -- it's just not worth it to bother with getting more than a few activations per period.

(Although... 74% uptime at 1 check per second? I feel like the recasting behavior of the proc would result in very few periods of downtime... ah well, but it looks right. I just really would've expected more like a 1-(1/11) uptime soft ceiling on it.)

I'm pretty sure he means if you click two of the powers -- like say Aim and Build Up -- at the same time, you lose a few seconds of Snipe-ability. I'm not sure how that's much different than just randomly clicking off Targeting Drone, though.

Fee fie fo furma, mee my mo murma, be bye bo burma, perrrrma.

waugh.

When are you going to stop discriminating against /Devices?!

Yeah, and the people with the knowledge are expensive. Still; figure out the time and team required -- 2-3 months with 3-6 fulltimers seems like it should be able to accomplish the project (if you have a good mechanism for delegating smaller issues and testing to part-time volunteers). Then figure out how much money that would require. There's a certain amount of labor of love that's got to be involved; part of the team selection is going to have to be lowest bid for how much any given member needs for themselves per month for the expected duration of the project. We can raise one grand, I think really no problem if we can get the word out. Ten grand is definitely within the realm of possibility. Twenty grand... maybe. Anything over that and it's just not feasible.

There's also the possibility of doing 'bake sales' during the run to get some interim funds; raffles for rare in-game items or other relevant commodities. I'm confident people would pitch in for that. But you'd have to get the bulk of the funds from the initial campaign.

Well, like I said -- people already in the community and using this existing wonderful free product shouldn't need rewards. A donor list is a polite tradition; having the in-game equivalent of a Mids' promotional T-Shirt would be more of a nice nod from the game's developers to you guys.

The only other logical use for the kickstarter rewards tiers would be some way of getting non-CoX players interested in the game and thus donating to the project. I can't think of anything that would obviously accomplish this, but if I do I'll let y'all know.

He outlines how you can do it right there -- Tactics, Kismet, and IR Goggles.

Although just for Arcanaville's benefit, I was really tempted to post a build that consists of one snipe, Vengeance, Recall Friend, and whatever mandatory prerequisites there were to those things.

Whoops! No such thing as perma, then -- you could accidentally fight something that debuffs your tohit and then you're SOL. Even Targeting Drone only gives you 55% resist to ToHit debuffs.