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    We wanted there to be a reason to have Archetypes other than Blasters and Defenders on your team. Controllers will find themselves greatly desired in the final battle if the team wants to have any chance of winning.

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    I don't quite see how they can say they learned something and then say this. Having a certain AT be required, which is basically what this says, is no better than having one or more be marginalized.

    At best this needs to be clarified.

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    That is not "Basically" what that says. It is a Worst Case Scenario Interpretation of a VERY general statement.

    Jeebus people. It's not even on test yet. Could we possibly hold back on the betchin and moanin about how Unfair it is to the CoV people, or why Certain AT's being Absolutely Required is Bad - until we ACTUALLY know if this is the case?
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    Controllers will find themselves greatly desired in the final battle if the team wants to have any chance of winning

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    Please tell me he didn't just say that you don't have any chance of winning without a Controller?

    - Jock Tamson, Who lacks active Controllers in his SG.

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    He didn't say that. "Greatly Desired" is not automatically "Cannot Win Without".
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    boo work filter, not letting me read it!

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    **Dodges!** Work filter, starts reading!

    (Hooray for Sneaky IT people)
  4. And? Like I said - not here to discuss if people should slot things, only whether they can or not. It's up to them whether they want to use it in that spot.
  5. Now in a New, Shorter Thread, by Request (Hi Stargeek!).

    Some notes to keep in mind:

    -This is a 'What You Can Slot Where' Guide, not a 'You Should Slot This Way' Guide. I will note if something is not recommended, but as always, it is Your Choice.

    -If you have any Questions, Suggestions, etc, post them... but ONLY post your actual experience, not "I hear that ..." or “People say that …”

    -Please - keep the slotting debates to a minimum. This is not the place. If it *CAN* be slotted usefully, even to minor effects, it can be on the list. Some uses are not 100% Legit, in my opinion, and since it’s my List, I’m mentioning it, but not posting all of them. Got Complaints? Too Bad. PM me if you really feel the need to discuss it, or start a new thread to talk about it – just Leave It Out Of Here.

    Now, on to the List:
    Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

    Easy ones:
    Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
    -Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. :-)

    Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
    -See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

    Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
    -All – Power Pools – Tough
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Frozen Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP – Controller – Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor (Just +Resist to Cold, not preferred slotting)
    -APP – Controller – Primal Forces Mastery - Temp Invul
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Mind over Body
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Charged Armor
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Temp Invul
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery – Mind over Body
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
    -Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
    -Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
    -Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
    -Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
    -Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


    Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Everyone – Sprint, Prestige versions of Sprint. +run, +jump, and -End
    -All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
    -All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
    -All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
    -Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
    -Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)


    -There is some Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -> Swift or Scrapper-> Super Reflexes-> Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

    Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
    -Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
    -Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
    -Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Earth's Embrace
    -Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
    -Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
    -Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


    Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Flash Freeze (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery - Char (Damage low, not preferred slotting), Rise of the Phoenix
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Static Discharge, Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Blaster – Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Fissure
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Total Focus
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery - Dominate
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP – Tanker – Arctic Mastery – Chillblain
    -APP – Tanker – Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stalagmites
    -APP – Tanker – Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice (?) - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
    -Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify
    -Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Scrapper – Spines - Impale
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


    Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Flash Freeze (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt, EM Pulse
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery – Char, Rise of the Phoenix
    -APP – Blaster – Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray, Sleep Grenade
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Fissure
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Total Focus
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery - Dominate, Mass Hypnosis,
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles, Petrifying Gaze
    -APP – Scrapper – Weapon Mastery - Web Grenade
    -APP – Tanker – Arctic Mastery – Chillblain, Block of Ice
    -APP – Tanker – Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Salt Crystals, Fossilize, Stalagmites
    -APP – Tanker – Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
    -Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage & hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
    -Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Scrapper – Spines - Impale
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


    These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


    Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
    -APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
    -Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
    -Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
    -Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


    Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
    -Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
    -Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
    -Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



    Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
    -Any Aim/Buildup type power
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
    -APP -- Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
    -Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate), Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this may not be the best choice)
    -Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


    Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
    -All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
    --APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Frozen Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Controller – Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Rock Armor
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
    -Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
    -Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
    -Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


    Thanks go to: Uplink_OoT, Dianeces, Hob_Healer, Luminara, MrQuizzles, Predicant, Stirge, Raye_Gunn, Local_Man, VoodooCompany, Quantum_Shield, Sockem, MrEMan, Polarpanda, Snow_Globe, StarGeek, Enantiodromos, anachrodragon, Ice_Ember, Hell_Scorpion, Kaltor, Boria, iloveU99x, Schtroumpf, galadiman, Rilkean_Heart, and finally to http://paragonwiki.com

    Removed:
    Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
    (Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

    Notes:
    Microfilaments – these MAY increase a power’s Slow effects. Not sure if it has been reliably tested, or it was just people ‘feeling’ that it increased it. PM’ing Castle, hoping for a response.

    *As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.
  6. It may be a side benefit - but Vengeance still uses the other portions of the HO, so it gets listed.

    Maybe I'll let this thread die, and start a new thread without all this ungrateful yammering in it.

    People - if you don't like the Guide? Don't Frakkin Post, and don't frakkin read it. Just ignore it.
  7. I don't get it either .. My Jealousy demands that I get the rewards right away .. ;-)
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    My comments…

    <ul type="square">Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:[/list]Also works as a Damage [u]Resistance[u] buff and Range. Very useful in powers like Increase Density or the Sonic Resonance shields.

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    Since WHEN is this true? Damage Enhancers of ALL typpes would be used that way, then. Ribo's would work in those shields, but there is NO way I'm adding this information.


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    <ul type="square">Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)[/list]Is this confirmed? The little pop-up window in-game freaks out and shows me a bunch of “slow” numbers. If this is true, wouldn’t it work in any slow power? Things like Snow Storm would benefit greatly from this.

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    I have received no confirmation. I know that Mez enhancers do not affect Slows. It's possible that the Movement enhancers do, but I'm not adding them without testing. Siphon speed is accurate - it can use both Run Speen enhancers and End reducers, so can use both effects. Whether it boosts the Slow effects I can't say.


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    <ul type="square">Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)[/list]I can’t say I’ve seen it, but I’ve heard from reliable people that Membranes do increase the recharge of Vengeance.

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    I've heard it's true also, but 'Hearing' something is not 'Testing' it. There's no way of knowing whether those people who 'feel' it's true are correct.
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    Presumably a Golgi would enhance the heal of Spectral Wounds and Phantom Army (although that wouldn't be very useful).

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    If those powers accept +Heal and +End Red, then I'd list them. Please, pleople ... stop listing 'guesses' and 'I hear that...'. It's really not useful.
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    Well my point is, your guide is not as useful as it could have been. It doesn't reflect what actually works, even with disclaimers that they may change sometime. (Though you DID make a comment like that about Lysosomes and Parry, so right there you're not being consistent with it.)

    My impression from what the devs have said is changing those results is pretty impossible without recoding the whole engine so I don't think it's a bug in the usual sense of having an expectation to change soon. There are a few things in there that folks might not think of - for instance Microfilament in Swift boosting both Run and Fly speed - but beyond that, most things are pretty straightforward. I appreciate you put a lot of work into this, but I think it could be better.

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    There are many things that seem 'obvious' to you, but to others it is not. I see people in the Hive all the time, asking "What can be used where" "Where can I use This?". Based on that, I decided to put together this list.

    I will Not Post Bug Exploits. Incorrect Usage of the HO's are Bug Exploits, in my opinion. Do I mention them? Yes, but I'm not going to go out of my way to list every use of something that should NOT in fact beused that way.

    Don't like it? By all means, don't use it. Your 'Feedback' isn't helpful, so it's not wanted. Bye Bye now.
  11. Your Point?

    Some are set up that way, and posted in the guide that they work - but I want to have the guide mostly set so that people don't have to respec out of things later when/if that gets fixed. I consider it a bug, and knowingly using a Bug to your benefit isn't something I want in a Guide.
  12. ItsJustJake

    Rage debuff

    The endurance loss is the least of my worries. It's standing there doing nothing that I hate. ;-)
  13. Updated Link for the Hamidon Enhancement Guide!
  14. Ok .. no more replying to this thread ;-)

    Go to: Thread Version 2.0

    Thanks to everyone who has been helping.
  15. Now in a New, Shorter Thread, by Request (Hi Stargeek!).

    Some notes to keep in mind:

    -This is a 'What You Can Slot Where' Guide, not a 'You Should Slot This Way' Guide. I will note if something is not recommended, but as always, it is Your Choice.

    -If you have any Questions, Suggestions, etc, post them.. but ONLY post your actual experience, not "I hear that ..."

    -Please - keep the slotting debates to a minimum. This is not the place. If it *CAN* be slotted, even to minor effect, it can be on the list.

    Now, on to the List:

    Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

    Easy ones:
    Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
    -Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. :-)

    Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
    -See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

    Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
    -All – Power Pools – Tough
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Frozen Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP – Controller – Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor (Just +Resist to Cold, not preferred slotting)
    -APP – Controller – Primal Forces Mastery - Temp Invul
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Mind over Body
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Charged Armor
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Temp Invul
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery – Mind over Body
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
    -Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
    -Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
    -Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
    -Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
    -Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


    Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
    -All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
    -All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
    -Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
    -Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)

    -There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -&gt; Swift or Scrapper-&gt; Super Reflexes-&gt; Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

    Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
    -Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
    -Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
    -Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Earth's Embrace
    -Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
    -Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
    -Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


    Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Flash Freeze (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery - Char (Damage low, not preferred slotting), Rise of the Phoenix
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Static Discharge, Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Blaster – Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray (Damage minor, not preferred slotting)
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Fissure
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Total Focus
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery - Dominate
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP – Tanker – Arctic Mastery – Chillblain
    -APP – Tanker – Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stalagmites
    -APP – Tanker – Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice (?) - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
    -Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify
    -Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


    Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Flash Freeze (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt, EM Pulse
    -APP - Blaster - Flame Mastery – Char, Rise of the Phoenix
    -APP – Blaster – Munitions Mastery - Cryo Freeze Ray, Sleep Grenade
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Fissure
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
    -APP – Defender – Electricity Mastery - Electric Fence, Thunder Strike
    -APP – Defender – Power Mastery - Total Focus
    -APP – Defender – Psychic Mastery - Dominate, Mass Hypnosis,
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Energy Torrent
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles, Petrifying Gaze
    -APP – Scrapper – Weapon Mastery - Web Grenade
    -APP – Tanker – Arctic Mastery – Chillblain, Block of Ice
    -APP – Tanker – Earth Mastery - Stone Prison, Salt Crystals, Fossilize, Stalagmites
    -APP – Tanker – Pyre Mastery - Ring of Fire, Char
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
    -Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
    -Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


    These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


    Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
    -APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
    -Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
    -Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
    -Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


    Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -APP - Scrapper - Body Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery - Torrent, Dark Blast, Tenebrous Tentacles
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Laser Beam Eyes
    -Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
    -Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
    -Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
    -Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



    Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
    -Any Aim/Buildup type power
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
    -APP -- Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy (Def Buff, Recharge Reduc.)
    -Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate), Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this may not be the best choice)
    -Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


    Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
    -All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
    --APP – Scrapper – Body Mastery - Focused Accuracy
    -APP - Tanker - Energy Mastery - Focused Accuracy
    -APP – Blaster – Cold Mastery – Frozen Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Controller – Ice Mastery - Frozen Armor
    -APP – Controller – Psionic Mastery - Indomitable Will
    -APP – Controller – Stone Mastery - Rock Armor
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
    -Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
    -Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
    -Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


    Thanks go to: Uplink_OoT, Dianeces, Hob_Healer, Luminara, MrQuizzles, Predicant, Stirge, Raye_Gunn, Local_Man, VoodooCompany, Quantum_Shield, Sockem, MrEMan, Polarpanda, Snow_Globe, StarGeek, Enantiodromos, anachrodragon, Ice_Ember, Hell_Scorpion, Kaltor, Boria, iloveU99x, Schtroumpf, galadiman, Rilkean_Heart, and finally to http://paragonwiki.com

    Removed:
    Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
    (Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

    *As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.
  16. Working on a quick update now, and I'll start a new thread later.
  17. *Updating as I find out more*

    Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

    Easy ones:
    Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
    -Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. ;-)

    Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
    -See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

    Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
    -All – Power Pools – Tough
    -APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -APP - Defender/Controller – Psychic Mastery (Defender) - Mind Over Body
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
    -Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
    -Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
    -Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
    -Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
    -Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


    Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
    -All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
    -All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
    -Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
    -Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)

    -There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -&gt; Swift or Scrapper-&gt; Super Reflexes-&gt; Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

    Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
    -Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
    -Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
    -Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
    -Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
    -Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
    -Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


    Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
    -Controller – Mind control: Mezmirize, Dominate, Terrify
    -Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


    Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char
    -APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain (*Not a Blaster APP? Details needed)
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
    Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
    -Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


    These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


    Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – Accuracy, Def Debuff
    -Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
    -Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
    -Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
    -Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


    Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – End Red, Def Debuff
    -Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
    -Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
    -Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
    -Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



    Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
    -Any Aim/Buildup type power
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy - To hit buff and Recharge Reduc
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate) , Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this would not be the best choice)
    -Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


    Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
    -All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy ToHit buff, End Reduc
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
    -Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
    -Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
    -Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


    Thanks go to: Uplink_OoT, Dianeces, Hob_Healer, Luminara, MrQuizzles, Predicant, Stirge, Raye_Gunn, Local_Man, VoodooCompany, Quantum_Shield, Sockem, MrEMan, Polarpanda, Snow_Globe, StarGeek, Enantiodromos, anachrodragon, Ice_Ember, Hell_Scorpion, Kaltor, Boria, iloveU99x, Schtroumpf, galadiman, Rilkean_Heart

    Removed:
    Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
    (Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

    *As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.
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    Can you set this up with Villian info on HOs? Since you have all of this information should transfer over except for different powers not on Hero side.

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    I doubt I'll have the time, until (if) I ever get any of my own on the villain side. Since I currently have no use for the list there, I don't think I'll have the time or interest in doing a villain version. Someone else is free to do so if they like, of course.
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    -APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain

    This isn't an APP power.

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    Anyone have more info on this? What is the Icee APP named? Is there a power like that in it?
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    Oh man I can't believe I missed this:

    Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez:
    -Controller - Ice control: Jack Frost

    Acc/Mez (Endoplasm, which is there already) is good, but so is Dam/Mez. If they do affect the slows as well as holds, both of them will be affecting 3 aspects of Jack.

    Jack can take Damage, Acc, Hold Duration, End Reduction, Range, Recharge Reduction, and Slow.

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    I'll add it in.


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    The following are valid if the /Mez portion of Hamidons affect slows.

    ...

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    It doesn't, so they aren't.
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    Great Guide!!! BuT for Dark Armor Cloak Of Fear

    I find that 3 lyso's and 3 end redux work best for the power. your biggest problem comes with endurance on this scrapper, it more beneficial to have level 53 SO's for end redux than it is for accuracy where as your accuracy will sit at 3 level 50 acc's (lysosome) which is fine for PvE and PvP.

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    This is not really a "This is what Works Best" type of guide. It's a "Here's what CAN be used, you decide what you Want" type of guide. I feel those decisions are best left to the player.

    It's a guide to how they CAN be used, not How you should use them.
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    I would welcome that. I got a warning for echoing a playful jab at another poster (using the same exact words he used). I got a warning, he did not.

    Inconsistency is the problem, not the moderation.

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    Actually, the guy who retaliates is always more likely to get pegged than the guy who starts it. It's a fact of life.

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    Again, it's not the moderation that is being complained about. It's the inconsistency with which it is applied. Inconsistent application of rules should NOT be a fact of life. Or at the very least a fact of these forums.

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    My Name is Tiny, and I Endorse this Message.
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    I wouldn't blame everything on Lighthouse. I think a lot of moderators have become a little smack-happy.

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    I agree 100% with this statement.
  24. *Updating as I find out more*

    Uplink_OoT did a great job a while back, compiling a list of Hamidon Enhancements. What I'd like to do is put together a list of which powers the more 'Exotic' HO's can help. I want to be able to tell people "'X' HO affects these powers ...". Help fill in the list with whatever you can.

    Easy ones:
    Nucleolus Exposure - Damage and Accuracy:
    -Too many to list. If you don’t know what can use this, you shouldn’t have bought the account. ;-)

    Centriole Exposure - Damage and Range:
    -See above. (Note - the range portion of some melee attacks cannot be increased, even though they may affect a larger than normal range. Be sure the power normally accepts Range + Damage enhancements before slotting this)

    Ribosome Exposure - Increase Damage Resistance and Endurance Reduction:
    -All – Power Pools – Tough
    -APP - Blaster - Electrical Mastery – Charged Armor
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Temporary Invulnerability, Force of Nature
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP - Controller - Fire Mastery – Fire Shield
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -APP - Defender/Controller – Psychic Mastery (Defender) - Mind Over Body
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetics - Increase Density
    -Defender/Controller - Sonic Resonance - Sonic Barrier, Sonic Haven, Sonic Dispersion
    -Defender/Controller - Storm - Steamy Mist
    -Defender – Dark - Shadowfall
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - Shining Shield, Thermal Shield, Quantum Shield, White Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste), Light Form
    -Scrapper – Dark Armor – Murky Cloud, Obsidian Shield, Dark Embrace
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Temporary Invulnerability, Unyielding, Unstoppable
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Brimstone Armor, Granite Armor
    -Warshade Secondary – Gravity Shield, Twilight Shield, Penumbral Shield, Umbral Aura, Black Dwarf (does not cost much End, might be a waste)


    Microfilament Exposure – Travel Speed Increase (Run, Fly, and Jump) plus Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Hover (Takes minimal end), Flight, Group Flight
    -All - Power Pools - Speed, Super Speed
    -All - Power Pools - Leaping, Combat Jump (Takes minimal End), Super Leap
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Speed Boost
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic Inertial Reduction
    -Defender/Controller - Kinetic - Siphon Speed (bonus -speed/recharge debuff on opponent)
    -Peacebringer – White Dwarf (Probably not the best place to put these, Dwarf has something akin to Combat Jumping) , Quantum Flight (There are reports that Q-Fly is already at the Fly Speed cap, in which case this enhancement would be useless) , Nova, Group Energy Flight
    -Peacebringer Inherent powers - Energy Flight, Combat Flight
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Not optimal slotting, but can use this.
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova (Probably not worth slotting Fly)
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf (Probably not worth slotting for this)

    -There is a Debate as to whether you should slot these into Fitness -&gt; Swift or Scrapper-&gt; Super Reflexes-&gt; Quickness. If you use Fly, you might benefit from Slotting these here, as they can serve as both Run Speed AND Fly Speed enhancers.

    Golgi Exposure - Heal and Endurance Reduction:
    -Anyone with a Medicine power pool Heal,
    -Anyone with a 'heal self' power (Tanks/scrappers, PB, WS)
    -Defenders/Controllers with a Heal power (Radiant aura, Twilight grasp, etc.)
    -Peacebringer - Glowing Touch, Essence Boost, Reform Essence
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Aura - White Dwarf - White Dwarf Sublimation
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Dark Regeneration, Siphon Life
    -Scrapper – Regen – Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Integration, Instant Healing
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Hoarfrost
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Dull Pain
    -Tank – Stone Armor – Rooted, Earth’s Embrace
    -Warshade – Essence Drain, Stygian Circle
    -Warshade Secondary – Black Dwarf – Black Dwarf Drain


    Peroxisome Exposure - Damage and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc .. but NOT knockback) . (In some cases, the damage is minor)
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char (Damage barely noticeable, not preferred slotting)
    -APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Scrapper – Darkness Mastery – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blaster – Ice - freeze ray, bitter freeze ray (*damage is insignificant on freeze ray. Mez hami-os will not increase chance to stun, and will not increase mags of attacks in energy punch.)
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Singularity
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind
    -Controller – Mind control: Mezmirize, Dominate, Terrify
    -Defender – Dark Blast – Tenebrous Tentacles
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Tornado
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient, but not really worth using because CS damage is so low), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Jab, Knockout Blow
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Incandescent Strike
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation (Damage is low for this one, so not considered ‘optimal’)


    Endoplasm Exposure - Accuracy and Mez: (ie: Hold, sleep, stun, etc, but NOT knockback)
    -APP - Blaster - Fire Mastery – Char
    -APP - Blaster – Ice Manipulation – Chillblain
    -APP - Blaster – Electrical Mastery – Shocking Bolt
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Oppressive Gloom
    -Blaster – Archery – Stunning Shot
    -Blaster/Defender – Electrical Blast – Tesla Cage
    Blaster - Electricity Manipulation - Shocking Grasp (good damage &amp; hold)
    Charged Brawl * (20% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Havoc Punch * (50% chance to Sleep (mag 3)) , Thunder Strike * (50% chance to Stun (mag 3)) , Lightning Clap * (50% chance to Stun (mag 2) PBAoE) (*May not be worth it)
    -Blasters/Tankers – Energy Melee - Total Focus, Bone Smasher, Energy Punch
    -Controller – Earth control: Stone Prison, Fossilize, Stone Cages, Stalagmites, Salt Crystals, Volcanic Gasses
    -Controller – Fire Control: Ring of Fire, Char, Fire Cages, Flashfire, Cinders
    -Controller – Gravity Control: Crush, Gravity Distortion, Crushing Field, Gravity Distortion Field, Wormhole, Singularity
    -Controller – Ice control: Chilblain, Block of Ice, Frostbite, Flash Freeze, Shiver, Glacier, Jack Frost
    -Controller – Illusion Control – Blind, Flash, Deceive, Spectral Terror
    -Controller – Mind control: Mesmerize, Dominate, Terrify, Confuse, Mass Hypnosis, Total Domination, Mass Confusion
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - EM Pulse
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning - Thunderclap
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Ice Arrow, EM Pulse Arrow
    -Defender – Dark – Fearsome Stare, Dark Servant, Petrifying Gaze
    -Defender – Psychic Blast - Subdue (Immobilize), Will Domination (sleep), Scramble Thoughts (disorient), Psychic Wail (disorient)
    -Defender - Radiation Blast – Cosmic Burst
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Pulsar, Incandescent Strike
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear, Oppressive Gloom, Touch of Fear
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts - Thunder Kick (Disorient), Cobra Strike (Disorient), Crippling Axe Kick (Immobilize), Eagle's Claw (Disorient)
    -Tank – Energy Melee – Energy Transfer, Barrage
    -Tank – Super Strength – Knockout Blow
    -Warshade – Gravimetric Snare, Gravity Well, Gravity Emanation, Inky Aspect


    These next few can be tricky, and are the ones that need the most 'help'. Some might be GREAT for a few powers, but helpful in some that share two of the aspects of the HO. These are the ones MOST in use of some definition.


    Lysosome Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Increases Accuracy:
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – Accuracy, Def Debuff
    -Blaster - Devices - Smoke Grenade – Acc + To Hit Debuff
    -Blaster – Assault Rifle – Burst - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions
    -Controller - Earth Control – Earthquake - can use the ToHit + Def Debuff Portions (Some say this is not ‘optimal slotting’ – that’s for you to decide.)
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller - Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Dark - Twilight Grasp, Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (acc + To hit Debuff)
    -Defender - Dark Blast – All powers except Dark Pit – Accuracy + Tohit Debuff
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Neutrino Bolt, X-ray Beam, Irradiate, Electron Haze, Proton Volley, Cosmic Burst, Neutron Bomb, Atomic Blast
    -Defender/Controller - Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses 2 of 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - ACC and foe –DEF
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow - tohit debuff, accuracy
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow - defense debuff, accuracy
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Dawn Strike, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for Accuracy, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper – Dark Melee – Nearly all attacks can use +ACC and foe –ACC
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear (Though Endoplasm and Enzymes are the preferred options)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the Acc + Def Debuff Portions


    Enzyme Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Debuffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) - Laser Beam Eyes – End Red, Def Debuff
    -Controller - Earth Control – Quicksand
    -Controller - Fire Control – Smoke
    -Controller – Mind Control – Terrify
    -Defender - Radiation Blast - Irradiate, Neutron Bomb,
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude* (*note - this could change someday if the Devs alter how buff/Debuff HO's are working)
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (under current bugged system only)
    -Defender/Controller – Radiation Emission - Radiation Infection (uses all 3)
    -Defender/Controller – Sonic - Liquefy (-DEF, -ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Freezing rain - (-DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Hurricane - (-ACC, END redux)
    -Defender/Control - Storm - Tornado - (–DEF, END redux)
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Flash Arrow (tohit debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Acid Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction),
    -Defender/Controller - Trick Arrow - Oil Slick Arrow (defense debuff, end reduction)
    -Defender - Dark - Darkest Night (ToHit Debuff + End Reduc), Dark Servant
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast – Gleaming Bolt, Glinting Eye, Gleaming Blast, Radiant Strike, Proton Scatter, Luminous Detonation, Incandescent Strike, Solar Flare, Photon Seekers, Nova/Dwarf Inherent attacks (Def Debuff is not large, but if you are slotting for End Reduction, you can use this in its place for some additional benefit)
    -Peacebringer – Dwarf Form attack powers
    -Peacebringer – Nova Form Attack Powers
    -Scrapper - Broadsword – All attacks except Parry - can use the End Reduction + Def Debuff Portions (Note - even Parry can use it, until they decide to fix the Buff/Debuff Enhancement issue)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Cloak of Fear
    -Scrapper - Katana – Sting of the Wasp, Gambler's Cut, Flashing Steel, The Lotus Drops, Soaring Dragon, Golden Dragonfly - can use the End Reduc + Def Debuff Portions



    Membrane Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Increase Attack Rate:
    -Any Aim/Buildup type power
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Though I know you can't put Recharge reducers in it normally, so it probably just uses the first 2 parts)
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy - To hit buff and Recharge Reduc
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Soul Drain
    -Controller - Illusion Control - Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility - Def buff, Recharge Reducer
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble (note, some of these have very fast recharge times already, not Optimal)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper Dark Melee/Dark Armor - Soul Drain
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and Increase attack rate
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Elude – Def Buff and Attack rate increase
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Energy Absorption (Defense, Increase attack rate) , Frozen Armor and Glacial Armor (Though very few people ever slot these for recharge, so this would not be the best choice)
    -Tank – Super Strength - Rage - uses ToHit buff and Recharge rate.
    -Tank/Scrapper – Invulnerability – Invincibility (not optimal slotting, but can use)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak


    Cytoskeleton Exposure - Increase ToHit and Defense Buffs, and Endurance Reduction:
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Maneuvers (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Tactics (uses 2 of 3)
    -All - Power Pools - Leadership - Vengeance (uses all 3? Can you put End cost reduction in it?)
    -All - Power Pools – Leaping – Combat Jumping (Not Recommended, but possible)
    -APP - Body Mastery (Scrapper)/Energy Mastery (Tanker) – Focused Accuracy ToHit buff, End Reduc
    -APP - Blaster - Force Mastery - Personal Force Field
    -Controllers - Illusion Control – Superior Invisibility, Group Invisibility
    -APP – Defender – Dark Mastery – Dark Embrace
    -Defender/Controller - Empathy - Fortitude – Uses all 3
    -Defender/Controller - Force Field - Personal Force Field, Deflection Shield, Insulation Shield, Dispersion Bubble
    -Defender/Controller – Storm Summoning – Steamy Mist (Defense bonus is small, but can be enhanced)
    -Defender - Dark - Shadowfall – Def Buff, End Red
    -Peacebringer - Luminous Blast - Build up (not as useful as Membrane, but can be used here) , Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more) , Combat Flight (Though the End usage is so low this may be a waste of a Hami-O, depends on your specific usage and build, though)
    -Scrapper – Broadsword – Parry (Value is disputed, but leaving this in)
    -Scrapper - Dark Armor – Cloak of Darkness (not recommended slotting, but can use 2 aspects)
    -Scrapper - Katana – Divine Avalanche - Def Buff and End Reduc
    -Scrapper – Martial Arts – Focus Chi – ToHit buff and End Reduc (Not optimal slotting, though, as power is not high in End usage)
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Focused Fighting, Focused senses – Def Buff, End Red
    -Scrapper – Super Reflexes – Evasion – Def Buff, End Red
    -Tank/Scrapper - Invulnerability - Invincibility (uses all 3)
    -Tank – Earth Armor - Rock Armor, Crystal Armor, Minerals, Granite Armor (all def buff/end red)
    -Tank – Ice Armor – Frozen Armor, Glacial Armor (Def Buff, End Reduc)
    -Warshade Primary - Umbral Blast - Dark Nova Bright Nova (Nova doesn't cost much, but if you have these and are slotting for ToHit anyway, you might as well reduce it even more.)
    -Warshade Secondary - Umbral Aura - Shadow Cloak (does not use much end, slotting this is your decision)


    Thanks go to: Uplink_OoT, Dianeces, Hob_Healer, Luminara, MrQuizzles, Predicant, Stirge, Raye_Gunn, Local_Man, VoodooCompany, Quantum_Shield, Sockem, MrEMan, Polarpanda, Snow_Globe, StarGeek, Enantiodromos, anachrodragon, Ice_Ember, Hell_Scorpion, Kaltor, Boria, iloveU99x, Schtroumpf, galadiman, Rilkean_Heart

    Removed:
    Removed HO’s with + ACC from “-Defender/Control - Storm – Hurricane” and “-Defender/Control - Storm – Tornado” (Powers are Autohit in PvE, so do not need accuracy. Are they Autohit in PvP? Do I need to put them back in as PvP slotting only?)
    (Removed from Enzyme) “-Controller - Illusion Control – Spectral Terror” (Spectral Terror does not take ToHit Debuff or Defense Debuff enhancements.)

    *As Always, this is a Work in Progress. Questions? Comments? Additions? Reply, and I'll get them in, or we'll talk about them at least.