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Too bad there's very little of that in the movie. You won't get to rant at that when you see it. People are shown to have a variety or responses and behaviors, from kindness to cruelty, gentleness to buttheadedness, and the apes do, too.
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The good news is that you're wrong about that. There are over 3,000 chimps in captivity in the United States alone. It's not exactly a difficult feat to engage one's willing suspension of disbelief to accept there might be a sanctuary, a zoo and a lab with enough apes to create the small group of apes we see in the movie.
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Quote:They aren't 10k apes in the city. There are a couple dozen at first, until Caesar manages to release all the other captive apes in the area (zoos, labs, private ranges).Won't bother going to see it unless somebody who can seen it can truthfully answer yes to the following question.
Did they give a valid explanation for why there are apparently 10,000 or so apes in a single city? And was the situation the same the world over?
Quote:Because the only way the ape revolt could in any way work is if it was just like in the original movies. Virtually every family had one as a pet so they were literally everywhere.
Aside from a few minor quibbles, such as Freida Pinto's mostly-pointless character, this is a really solid science fiction movie. -
Quote:What a weird thing to say.That annoys me to no end... No other medium could ever get away with making a remake of something, let alone one of the greats... but movies, they can remake everything >.>
TV shows are remade all the time. So are songs. Classical music is full of "variations on the theme of fill-in-the-blank". Even novels get remakes and sequels, including the classics. Justin Cronin's recent best-seller The Passage is nothing more than a remake of Stephen King's The Stand. Comic books -- and even comic book characters -- get remade constantly. Heck, Superman alone has had a new origin story just about every other year for the last 25 years. -
Quote:They didn't say "may." They said, "If these numbers are correct, wormholes are both space- and time-travel and causality is no longer a factor."No, physicists say it "may" go out the window. They don't know for certain what types of time travel actually work and whether or not the universe does it automatically or what...
The type of time travel you are talking about that they are thinking of isn't really time travel, it's dimensional travel. When you go back in time you don't go back in time but rather go to another dimension that is identical to ho our dimension is and then when you kill your grandfather you don't effect your existence cuz that's not really your grandfather. The causality chain is not broken.
Of course we don't know if that's actually the case since no one's done it yet. But that's what the equations say to them. And no, they aren't saying it's dimensional travel (which means nothing, by the way -- you actually mean "travel between universes"). It's actual travel to a point in time before the present one in our universe. So you get to go back in time and kill Hitler in *our* universe.
Don't take my word for it, there are tons of new books that have been released on the topic. Whatever it is you're thinking of isn't coming from people like Thorne, Hawking, Greene, Gott and Kaku. -
Quote:While I agree with the general notion of "original idea uber alles," the reality is some suit who makes the financial decisions wanted there to be another PotA movie in order to generate revenue so they can make original movies. Which they do, every year, but almost no one goes to those, so who's to blame, us or them?I wish I could believe that's what they were motivated by but I can't shake the feeling they prefer trying to milk a few more bucks out of an IP with an established fanbase than risk trying something new.
Maybe I'm just getting old.
That said, if someone is given marching orders to refresh an existing property, you should at least be happy that they actually took the time to put forth a decent effort, which is what Rise of the Planet of the Apes is. The Burton remake was pure crap and everyone knows it. Rise however, is actually *good*. If we support it, then those filmmakers later get to try original ideas because that's how Hollywood works. "You made a ton of money for us, so here's a little something in return so you can make your vanity project."
As Bruce Willis once said about making yet another Die Hard flick in trade for getting to do In Country, "I make one of these for them, so I can I make this for me." Of course the studio hopes that the little side project will blow up huge and make them a ton of money, but really it's just a favor that they hope will make its money back. -
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Quote:This seems to treat Freedom as a trial account, but that's only partially true. F2P players might also buy costumes and other geegaws and doodads without becoming Premium or VIP players. So alienating *any* players means the difference between some money and no money. So what if they only spend ten bucks? That $10 more than NCSoft had before that player showed up.
I'm not going to lose sleep over that. That isn't a make-or-break thing. If they allowed free players to send blind invites, I wouldn't complain too much either, but to lose at most 25% of players who would not be paying to play in any capacity for at least a significant amount of time if ever seems rather insignificant. -
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I'd definitely put Battlefield Earth on the list of "First to Burn After the Power Goes Out in February, Even Before the Cords of Wood."
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Along with Rise of the Planet of the Apes, I loved Captain America. I saw it twice within a week, which I haven't done since Aliens in '86. It's the best Indiana Jones movie we've had since The Last Crusade. This is what The Rocketeer should've been, and although I was afraid it would be another near-miss like Rocketeer, I was glad it actually hit on all cylinders. Action, humor, actual emotion and a 90-year-old virgin at the heart of it all.
The Disney acquisition of Marvel has paid off at least one dividend: Alan Menken penning the terrific USO song, "Star-Spangled Man With A Plan." Clever, cheesy and funny. Speaking of music, the score by Alan Silvestri is simply aces. Like the Indiana Jones March, the Captain America March is heroic and distinctive, promising adventure galore. -
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Quote:Exactly. It's true that readers of SF will often read Fantasy (but little traffic going the other way, so your literary commute is easy), and it's likewise true that SF was originally derived from Fantasy, but the genres and the readership have diverged so much at this point that lumping them together is pointless.I guess my biggest issue with the list is one of principle. There are so many great works of Science Fiction, and so many great works of Fantasty that have been written. The two are so often lumped together, but I personally think they're different. It might be better to have a Science Fiction 10/100 list, and a Fantasy 10/100 list. that would certainly have made picking easier for me.
~Freitag
I know people who read nothing but Star Trek novels or Warhammer novels, which is even more fractionalized than splitting the two major genres. -
Not impressed with this list at all. They really need to limit it to a single work by each author in order to eliminate flavor of the month selections as well as silly choices like half the Heinlein ones. Way too many Mieville and Gaiman books on that list, yet only one each from John Brunner and John Scalzi. None from Jack Chalker or Jack Vance. (Apparently they are biased against guys named John.) I don't get how they've designated a "series" either. I don't like the Ender books, but they're every bit as much a series as the Dune novels.
And Battlefield Earth? Really? Who outside the cult finds that even readable?
It's also way past time we separated Fantasy and Science Fiction.
I'm guessing most of the top finishers are a foregone conclusion: LotR, Song of Ice & Fire, Ender's Game, Hitchhiker's Guide, Armor by Steakley, Perdido Street Station, etc. and so yawn. -
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Jon Stewart's reaction to Lou Dobbs' bizarre rant (which had more than a few overtones of racism) was hilarious: "This takes place in the Ultimate comics line, which is an alternate universe. You can relax -- Peter Parker is still Spider-man and still Caucasian. And still fictional."
It's a bummer that they killed Peter, because USM was really the only good Ultimate comic outside of a few isolated UFF and the brilliant Galactus storyline. But on the other hand, the line has become so stupid that it needed a reboot. And what better way to signal that everything is up for grabs than by killing off the star? -
Quote:There was one expression that Caesar made which looked exactly like Serkis' face. Amazing capture, since the ape face looks nothing like his.Andy Serkis did a great job as always. I'm not sure if he did all of the apes, but they managed to give character to the ones that called for it.
Quote:I hope other folks go to see it; it has what a lot of summer movies skimp on in favor of explosions and effects: imagination and heart. -
Speaking as the guy who hates everything, I have to say that I loved Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
I mean, a sci-fi summer blockbuster which actually takes the time to develop not just the plot but also multiple characters? What were those people thinking? Don't they know it's supposed to be all Baysplosions all the time?
The movie takes the usual story beats and mixes them with smartness and a really tight plot and comes up with something that is altogether entertaining where you *don't* have to turn your brain off at the door. The motivations of everyone -- from scientists to corporate goons to regular folks to skeevy losers to apes -- are clearly delineated and they ring true. The overarching story hinges on a specific character motivation that you don't find out about until after meeting all the protagonists. Once that groundwork has been laid, everything after that makes perfect sense. The plot hinges on a specific instigating factor and it all proceeds logically from that starting point.
For fans of the series there are a huge number of nudges. I'll only spoil one of the two really obvious ones: they call Caesar's mom "Bright Eyes." Which of course is what Zira called Taylor in the original movie. There are a number of similar references sprinkled throughout. Pay close attention to names. This sort of thing really underscores that it's a labor of love, something that comes through.
I'd really like to know how the screenplay came about, because the credited screenwriters have turned out something that I would not have expected given their history. They wrote The Relic, which was four kinds of terrible, as well as Eye For An Eye which is so forgettably bad I had to re-read the description twice before remembering I'd actually seen it.
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Quote:Taken all together, the PotA series has a lovely time travel story. What's even more interesting is that decades later physicists working on wormholes determined that they not only allowed for travel through space but also through time. And the really amazing thing was that the result of a lot of math I don't understand but they say works is that causality goes out the window.That's pretty much why I didn't bother to mention the Cornelius and Zira time travel loop in my last post when talking about the "continuity" of the Planet of the Apes timeline. As we all know when you introduce time travel into a sci-fi storyline things usually get fuzzy and paradox-y.
Causality, for those unfamiliar with the term, is "cause and effect." Heat water -> water boils.
The most famous time travel conundrum is known as the Grandfather Paradox. It has variations but the idea is this: if you go back in time and kill your grandfather, you will not exist. Therefore you can't go back in time and kill your grandfather. Gentler variations involve keeping your grandparents from meeting or your parents from meeting, et cetera.
Wormhole time travel, however, uncouples cause from effect. So if you kill your grandfather, you don't cease to exist: you're still there, you're still you and you still committed murder. (Or chronograndfratricide as it were.) The future continues on without your family forming the way it would have, but your memories still exist.
Which is totally weird, but they say the numbers bear it out.
The cool thing is that the time travel scenario in PotA is pretty much this except in reverse: the future apes exist because the descendants of Caesar went back in time and begat Caesar. That's a closed loop. However, it seems that *something* went astray from the original timeline, because apes and humans don't end up as adversaries, but rather as cohabitants in a new civilization.
Or do they? Dun dun dun.
Quote:Bottomline it doesn't really bother me that newer movies like Rise of the Planet of the Apes may not strictly stick to an established timeline because that franchise is already a little loose with the facts to begin with. I'm not even going to try to explain the 1970s PotA TV show in with the rest of this. -
Quote:You heard it here first: crickets play this game by Jimminy!Please provide links to the unbiased third party company that interviewed the entire CoH community, and collated the datamining that proves beyond any shadow of doubt that the number of customers that would take advantage of a lifetime subscription is as you are claiming a small portion of the customer base.
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I'd say "never" for water sets. As pointed out by a Dev not too long ago, it tends to only look good with Ultra settings.
Similarly, there seems to be resistance against gigantism among Devs for some reason.
I'm doubtful about major new zones like underwater or moon unless Freedom really takes off.
The elemental stuff seems quite likely, especially with all the FX talk lately.
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Good business to cover the bases and try to pull in some people who prefer manga. Since manga is quite popular in the US and Europe (France especially), why not throw them a bone?
Besides, it's something Sam has been wanting for a very long time. -
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Quote:Manga ARE comics. Just not Western ones. And at least as popular as superheroes.Off hand it seems a little more video-game/manga ish to me than comic book exactly, but in any case it sounds like the mechanic will be a lot of fun. I have to say, the railroad crossing sign is fantastic.
Also I'm admittedly not as 'up' on comic books as I was ages back, but I really seem to recall more characters who fought with a staff than ones who fought with giant swords. -