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  1. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Katie V View Post
    No. I'm still testing, but what counts vs what doesn't count is strange:
    • Ally objectives count
    • Escort objectives count
    • Release Captive objectives count
    • Defend an Object objectives count
    • Allied patrols do not count.
    • Allies in a "battle" objective do not count.
    • Allied bosses do not count.
    This is even stranger. Whatever it is, it seems to be not working as intended: it does not match the intent stated in the patch note, nor does it confine itself to the allies that might be considered an exploit.

    My personal style in AE arcs involves getting the text needed to follow the story in front of all the players. Reliance on mission briefings, clues, and other less obvious text results in a random sequence of instructions --- go here, defeat this, collect that --- that seems to make no sense to anyone but the team leader. I try to put all of my story into NPC chatter of some sort. This means using a lot of allies, patrols, and unessential boss fights, often set to single.
  2. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
    the AE change made it so any critter considered an ally (ie blue box) will decrease rewards

    this includes:
    • allies
    • escorts
    • captives
    • ally bosses
    • allies in a battle
    • basically anything that has a blue box that does not attack you
    i do think it was a tad much, i mean, for allies that actually participated in battle it would be an issue, but captives which dont do anything, or escorts, its just no point to include them unless you only have 1 in the mish
    This would appear to have broken three quarters of the available story telling tools in AE.
  3. Heraclea
    From the patch notes:
    Quote:
    Rewards in Mission Architect missions that contain more than one allied critters will give progressively lower rewards for each additional allied critter in the mission.
    Problem is, I am noticing sharply reduced ticket and inf rewards on a variety of missions that do not even feature allies, which makes me wonder whether this is unintentionally nerfing the rewards of all missions that even feature hostages.

    This evening, I played "Freakout" by 3Deviant, not sure what the number is, on a team. The arc is story based and is intended to be a team challenge, with large ambushes and multiple archvillains in each mission. There are also a fairly large number of hostages in each mission, but no actual allies. Rewards when played were noticeably substandard compared to previous runs of the story. With the exception of a couple of the archvillains, the enemies fought in the arc are standard, and include Freakshows, Family, Crey, Council, and Arachnos. All seemed to be giving less than a quarter of full rewards.

    One possible explanation would seem to be that the presence of the hostages, as non-combat characters, is invoking the nerf. There are no allies in any of these missions.

    I use friendly and non-combat mobs in a variety of ways. In some, friendly ambushes spawn to bestow congratulations on the players when a foe has been defeated, for story reasons. In another, friendly patrols spawn when objectives are completed to depict a revolt in a prison camp. Some of my allies are deliberately weak but combative, meant to be defeated rather than helpful, because that's part of the story. I've added friendly bosses to depict characters making speeches to the player. None of these allies are expected to follow players passing out buffs, and combat-effective allies already eroded rewards, potentially to zero, by the damage they did. I am going to have to test each of these scenarios, but if hostages are invoking the code here they likely are too. I already know the patrol spawning mission is affected, even if the patrols do not buff the players and are not controlled by them.

    If every hostage, friendly, or non-combat NPC is invoking this code regardless of their combat ability, it seems to have misfired and is interfering with story telling as well as exploits. If this is the case I'd ask this to be rolled back.
  4. Heraclea
    This is an Inv/EM build. I gather that this is a respec build, and that you never intend to face anything lower than level 27. Otherwise, you need Stamina at 20 instead of 30.

    I think you'd be getting a bit more mileage out of a build like this, and skipping the Leadership pool, although I still would prefer to put a damage set into Total Focus. But if you're going exotic there Stun is more worthwhile than Taunt.

    Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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    inv/em: Level 50 Magic Tanker
    Primary Power Set: Invulnerability
    Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
    Power Pool: Fitness
    Power Pool: Fighting
    Power Pool: Speed
    Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

    Hero Profile:
    Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(5), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(5)
    Level 1: Barrage -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(9), Rope-Acc/Rchg:50(9)
    Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(13), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(13)
    Level 4: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(25), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(37)
    Level 6: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(15), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(15)
    Level 8: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
    Level 10: Bone Smasher -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(19), Rope-Acc/Rchg:50(19), Rope-Acc/EndRdx:50(21)
    Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(21), Mocking-Rchg:50(23), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(23), Mocking-Taunt:50(25)
    Level 14: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29)
    Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(29), Numna-Heal:50(31), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(31)
    Level 18: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
    Level 20: Tough -- Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(31), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
    Level 22: Whirling Hands -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(A), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg:50(33), Erad-%Dam:30(34), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(34)
    Level 24: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(36)
    Level 26: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(37), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(37)
    Level 28: Build Up -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:50(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:50(39), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:50(39), GSFC-ToHit:50(39), GSFC-Build%:50(40), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx:50(40)
    Level 30: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(40), P'Shift-EndMod:50(42), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(42)
    Level 32: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(42), LkGmblr-Def:50(43), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)
    Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(45), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg:50(45)
    Level 38: Energy Transfer -- Mako-Acc/Dmg:35(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(45), Mako-Dam%:35(46), Mako-Dmg/Rchg:35(46), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48)
    Level 41: Total Focus -- RzDz-Acc/Rchg:30(A), RzDz-EndRdx/Stun:30(48), RzDz-Acc/EndRdx:30(48), RzDz-Stun/Rng:30(50), RzDz-Acc/Stun/Rchg:30(50), RzDz-Immob%:30(50)
    Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
    Level 47: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%:50(A)
    Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
    ------------
    Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
    Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Gauntlet
    Level 4: Ninja Run



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  5. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Noyjitat View Post
    Does this work for all allied critters or just allied critters that are killable? Presently one of the easy farm exploits is to have hostages follow you around and heal/buff or use knockdown powers such as ice slick or debuff powers such as anguishing cry.
    I'm assuming this only applies to allies set to follow you and assist you, rather than freed hostages that remain on the field as friendlies, or friendly patrols.

    There's one mission I've made that involves a simulated mass uprising; you free friendly hostages, who go their own way and spawn a variety of friendly patrols, in an attempt to create an atmosphere of encouraging an uprising at a prison camp. The freed hostages do not buff the team or follow the team, but will attack enemies they see. They're supposed to wander continually, but when the team leaves their LOS they tend to stand stock still. This may require revision.
  6. Heraclea
    I suppose it's too late to ask for William Shakespeare. OK....

    Gail Simone
    Robert Rodi
    Kurt Busiek
    Phil Austin / Peter Bergman / David Ossman / Philip Proctor
    Jello Biafra
  7. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
    Are you farming because you love to beat up huge masses of guys, because you love money, or some other reason?
    There are, I suppose different definitions of "farming". I suppose I'm farming when I play a task force on a level 50 character that's achieved all of her IO build goals, and who will pass any rewards used to other characters that can use them. It's the same way with all of my characters; it's always from each according to her ability or luck, to each according to her needs, just like the Bible says.
  8. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
    Health can't take any procs
    The "procs" may actually be the Numina, Miracle, and Regenerative Tissue uniques. Miracle and Numina have fairly attractive 2 slot bonuses, so slotting the uniques and generic Heals from all of those sets for five slots in Health might be an attractive frankenslot strategy.
  9. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crazy_Dragon View Post
    Like I said, though, all I'm really intending on doing is mapping a few simple /team shouts, like "$target sighted!" or "Gather for Auras!", stuff like that; putting a sequence of emotes to one key and/or mapping something like Build Up to a delayed costume change to time it right.
    I use mine for those things, and before I got it I routinely used the numbered key pad for binds.

    I've never really attempted to bind attack chains onto macro keys on my g11, for one simple reason: each character's attack chains are different and have different timings and are bound to different keys. There's no key press and timing sequence that's going to work right for everyone.

    I have a number of macros to turn toggles on when I log into a character, but that isn't really automating the earning of any game reward.
  10. Heraclea
    And this would be a starter build for a Fire/SS tanker. This is a lot freer and easier than the spines/SR build, with more room for pool powers. You could easily skip both Burn and Rise of the Phoenix, swapping Temperature Protection, a travel power, or something else you might want.

    Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
    http://www.cohplanner.com/

    Click this DataLink to open the build!

    Level 50 Technology Tanker
    Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
    Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
    Power Pool: Fitness
    Power Pool: Fighting
    Power Pool: Leaping
    Power Pool: Speed
    Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

    Hero Profile:
    Level 1: Fire Shield -- EndRdx-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(13), ResDam-I:50(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(45)
    Level 1: Jab -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(3), Dmg-I:50(3), Dmg-I:50(11), Dmg-I:50(39), EndRdx-I:50(50)
    Level 2: Healing Flames -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(5), RechRdx-I:50(15), Heal-I:50(43), Heal-I:50(43), Heal-I:50(43)
    Level 4: Haymaker -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(5), Dmg-I:50(7), Dmg-I:50(7), Dmg-I:50(11), EndRdx-I:50(17)
    Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
    Level 8: Consume -- Acc-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(9), RechRdx-I:50(9), RechRdx-I:50(17), Acc-I:50(42), EndMod-I:50(42)
    Level 10: Taunt -- Taunt-I:50(A)
    Level 12: Plasma Shield -- EndRdx-I:50(A), ResDam-I:50(13), ResDam-I:50(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(46)
    Level 14: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Heal-I:50(15)
    Level 16: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
    Level 18: Tough -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(19), ResDam-I:50(46), ResDam-I:50(46)
    Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
    Level 22: Knockout Blow -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(23), Dmg-I:50(23), Dmg-I:50(31), Dmg-I:50(31), RechRdx-I:50(31)
    Level 24: Blazing Aura -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(25), Acc-I:50(25), Dmg-I:50(34), Dmg-I:50(37), Dmg-I:50(37)
    Level 26: Punch -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(34), Dmg-I:50(36), EndRdx-I:50(37)
    Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(29), RechRdx-I:50(29)
    Level 30: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I:50(A)
    Level 32: Weave -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(33), DefBuff-I:50(33), DefBuff-I:50(33), DefBuff-I:50(34)
    Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(36), RechRdx-I:50(36)
    Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(39), Dmg-I:50(39), Dmg-I:50(40), Dmg-I:50(40), RechRdx-I:50(40)
    Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(42)
    Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(50), EndMod-I:50(50)
    Level 47: Burn -- Dmg-I:50(A), Dmg-I:50(48), EndRdx-I:50(48), RechRdx-I:50(48)
    Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- Heal-I:50(A)
    ------------
    Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
    Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Gauntlet
    Level 4: Ninja Run



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  11. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Murdok View Post
    I have a level 50 spines/sr and a level 50 fire/ss. I want to use one of these to start farming with. Which would you guys recommend. Any builds would be most appreciated.
    Either will work, really, but it depends on where you are with your farming program, and what you want to farm.

    The spines/SR could probably face almost all of the content in the game (assuming we're talking about a scrapper) and work it. But I had endurance issues on my /SR scrapper, and found the character hard to play until that was brought under control.

    The fire/SS tanker has an endurance recovery power available in the primary, very early, and may be easier to run non-stop. But you're strengths are fire, smashing, and lethal damage out of the box. If you're farming demons or Circle of Thorns you'll do fine. You will need to be a bit selective until you get some defense sets working to cover your weaknesses.

    If you are working AE, you can select custom groups of custom mobs to cater to each of these characters' strengths, so the character you should work there is the character you like best.

    A very basic starter build for Spines/SR would look something like this to me. This will perform reasonably nicely out of the box, and will softcap with a very few IO sets.

    Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.621
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    Level 50 Technology Scrapper
    Primary Power Set: Spines
    Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
    Power Pool: Fitness
    Power Pool: Fighting
    Power Pool: Leaping
    Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

    Hero Profile:
    Level 1: Lunge -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(3), Dmg-I:50(3), Dmg-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(40), EndRdx-I:50(40)
    Level 1: Focused Fighting -- EndRdx-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(7), DefBuff-I:50(17), DefBuff-I:50(34)
    Level 2: Spine Burst -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(5), Dmg-I:50(5), Dmg-I:50(13), Dmg-I:50(46), RechRdx-I:50(48)
    Level 4: Agile -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(7), DefBuff-I:50(46)
    Level 6: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
    Level 8: Impale -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(9), Dmg-I:50(15), Dmg-I:50(37), EndRdx-I:50(37)
    Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(11)
    Level 12: Focused Senses -- EndRdx-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(13), DefBuff-I:50(31), DefBuff-I:50(36)
    Level 14: Health -- Heal-I:50(A), Heal-I:50(17), Heal-I:50(46)
    Level 16: Dodge -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(43), DefBuff-I:50(45)
    Level 18: Quills -- Acc-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(19), EndRdx-I:50(19), Dmg-I:50(23), Dmg-I:50(23), Dmg-I:50(25)
    Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21), EndMod-I:50(21)
    Level 22: Build Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(31)
    Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I:50(A)
    Level 26: Ripper -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(27), Dmg-I:50(29), Dmg-I:50(29), EndRdx-I:50(31)
    Level 28: Lucky -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(43), DefBuff-I:50(45)
    Level 30: Quickness -- Run-I:50(A)
    Level 32: Throw Spines -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(33), Dmg-I:50(34), RechRdx-I:50(34)
    Level 35: Evasion -- EndRdx-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(36), DefBuff-I:50(36), DefBuff-I:50(37)
    Level 38: Tough -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(39), ResDam-I:50(39), ResDam-I:50(39), ResDam-I:50(40)
    Level 41: Weave -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(42), DefBuff-I:50(42), DefBuff-I:50(42), DefBuff-I:50(43)
    Level 44: Combat Jumping -- DefBuff-I:50(A), DefBuff-I:50(45), DefBuff-I:50(50)
    Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(48), RechRdx-I:50(48)
    Level 49: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(50), EndMod-I:50(50)
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    Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
    Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Critical Hit
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  12. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Deep Rootz View Post
    I've been playing an elec/sheild scrapper and have gotten him to 41.
    Ironically, this isn't going to hurt me that much because I was not softcapped to ranged or AoE to begin with. I will go from around 39 to 37% defense to ranged attacks, but ironically that's not as big a deal as going from 45 to 43%.

    I just built to softcap melee defense, and then went for recharge and endurance. It's not a perfect build --- vengeanced Nemesis are annoying --- but it works well, and I'm not willing to sacrifice any of the recharge to get two-odd points of ranged defense back.
  13. Heraclea

    Any regrets?

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Organica View Post
    The stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid Ghost Slaying Axe.
    Ghost Slaying Axe is a godsend on current Positron. It may become obsolete soon.
  14. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cade Lawson View Post
    zero return after four (Thanks, ED).
    Technically, the return is not zero, although it is quite attenuated.

    For example, according to Mids 3 slotting Stamina with generic IOs gives you 49.8% more recovery. Six slotting it the same way gives you 54.5%. This is the difference between 2.5 end/sec recovery and 2.58. Given that the Miracle +Recovery unique on top of three slotted Stamina only gets you from 2.5 to 2.75, and most recovery bonuses are smaller than that, you might want to slot Stamina this way if yours was a build where you had so many slots you didn't know what to do with. The benefit from the extra slots is comparable to the benefit given by some set bonuses.

    You probably would come ahead slotting powers for endurance reduction rather than throwing slots into Stamina for these minor gains. But the comparison is not completely direct.
  15. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pikkon15 View Post
    what power set combos would work best for a wind based char?
    Storm Summoning defender, with almost anything.... Storm/Electric is a good thematic combo, and so would Storm/Ice.

    Ice/Storm or Ice/Cold for a controller would work well, I think.
  16. Heraclea

    Any regrets?

    POST-ACTION

    I quit playing my blueside mains after i6, and mostly abandoned the game shortly after the issue. I never let my subscription lapse, and must have played a little bit in i7, if only because my villain main was 41 when I started getting interested in this game again.

    I probably did need to let my old mains sit for a while, and should have rerolled new ones; my original characters were unbearable to try to play during this period. Instead, I wasted a year and a half on some other game. Issue 9 brought me part of the way back, but really I wasn't here regularly until Issue 11. Cimerora really piqued my interest.

    Still, those other games proved to be a disappointment in the end.
  17. Heraclea

    WP/DB Help

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Finduilas View Post
    You're right, some sets like DB and DM need accuracy in their Build Up equivalent; I had forgotten about that. That's one case where you might want to take FA as a set mule. Either that, or make sure you have *lots* of global acc and ToHit bonuses--that's the route I took on my Claws/SR scrapper.
    Accuracy is pretty much key for DB when you are soloing, so I understand how it might be somewhat attractive. Still, you get comparable results from an IO unique without losing all of that endurance.

    Teamed, I don't rely on the combos nearly as much, and mostly I just spam Weaken because it ends with the full circle PBAOE.
  18. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tenzhi View Post
    It shouldn't be common. It should largely be a waste to take them as a tank.
    Maybe yes. But at least for Tough, given the way it works now, there's almost no point in taking it at its current values unless you are starting from a fairly high level of resistance for it to add to. Weave does a bit more out of the box, but given an XOR choice most non-melees would be better off with Maneuvers. Bottom line is, there's really no motive for people who aren't scrappers or tankers to take either.
  19. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Severe View Post
    correct me if im wrong but invuls back in issue 3 didnt take tough did they cause they capped out in s/l..thats why fire tanks were mad cause they HAD to take it cauase they need the one slot tough ( then nerfed to like 3) to capp out s/l
    It was not common for any tankers to take Tough or Weave back then, except for Fire tankers taking Tough.
  20. Heraclea

    WP/DB Help

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Finduilas View Post
    I really can't think of any good reason to take FA; I've seen it used as a set mule for Gaussian's, but Build Up works just as well and is far more useful overall.
    Technically, Dual Blades doesn't get a Build Up. You get Blinding Feint instead. Not sure you'd want to slot Gaussians there, because it figures in several of the combos and as such you will want Accuracy straight up.
  21. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion View Post
    So, as much as I love Invul, the tier nine (for me) makes it unplayable.
    I have cheerfully skipped Unstoppable on my two level 50 Invulnerability tankers, and likely will never take it in its current form. I have never had it, avoided it on Heraclea back when it was possible to skip lots of stuff for concept reasons. Since I knew I could make a perfectly well performing Invuln tanker without it, when I rolled another (Inv/Dark Melee) I skipped it there too.

    (Memories..... back in i3 I never took Dull Pain, and levelled to 50 without it, because I thought it had a hitpoint crash when it wore off. I got this misconception from the forums, from tales of tankers dying when both Unstoppable and Dull Pain wore off in short succession.)

    I agree that it isn't a particularly valuable power. An Inv or WP tanker with Tough and Weave on is unlikely to ever need it. A fight where you need that kind of resistance is going to outlast its duration, which likely will leave you dead. On the other hand, the set works just fine in its absence.
  22. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PhroX View Post
    To be honest, these days I see more "we need a kin". And it's just as wrong.
    I see "we need a kin" fairly often, but far more frequently than that is "we need a rad". This might have just enough truth in it, for at least some TF content, to be worth discussing.

    I doubt that a rad is needed for anything specifically, but some encounters are much less tiresome when you have one, and there are some encounters that are much more fun when you have any kind of toggled anchor debuff.

    Kinetics is the only time I deleted a character (fire/kin) because I absolutely hated that power set. I could not play the power set on teams, even when hiding from tells.
  23. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SilverBullet_NA View Post
    Been waiting since i6 to revamp to defense to work correctly, just drop the attribute already and replace it with % for block,parry and dodge. Certainly with current system it is doable.
    You do know about the enemy accuracy changes in Issue 7, don't you? Then, in Issue 13, all defense bonuses were turned into two bonuses, one typed and one positional. I tend to think that defense is in a good place, but that resistance is a bit undervalued currently.
  24. Heraclea

    WP/DB Help

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gibdo View Post
    Thanks for suggestions. Just curious, why didn't anyone pick Energy Mastery? I figured Focused Accuracy and Physical Perfection would be good powers to take.
    While GP and I disagree on the need for Stamina on a Willpower tanker, I suspect we'd both agree that Physical Perfection is gilding the lily. Physical Perfection is essentially a mini Health and Stamina in one power, with the values for both regeneration and recovery halved. Taking two powers to achieve this is probably not worth the bother, especially on an extremely tight build like WP/DB.

    Focused Accuracy has a prodigious endurance cost (.78 end/sec; your regular toggles cost .21 end/sec). Definitely want Stamina and maybe also Physical Perfection if you take this. It adds a base 5% to hit, and you could do better than that just by adding the Kismet 6% "accuracy" (to hit, actually) IO to a defensive power. My Fire/DB has one in Combat Jumping. Its other effects are perception and resist to-hit debuffs, which may have some value in PvP or if you fight a lot of Arachnos. Not worth it IMO.
  25. Heraclea
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker View Post
    I see and agree with this, but I also get what the OP is saying.

    There is, in some quarters, an expectation that certain missions and TFs should be done one way. I am sure that is generally the way that most people have found to be successful but it is not the only way nor is it guaranteed to be the easiest.
    It is true, the people I usually run the late game task forces with tend to run either master or efficiency runs. On the STF scrappers are seen as too easy to kill and inefficient against the most difficult of the patrons. There's also a perception that scrappers are more inclined to go rogue and break from the team. I don't play mine that way, but I've seen it happen often. So I end up running the STF on characters I care less about than my scrappers, characters that cannot function well without a team.

    Apparently my experience is not widely shared. It nevertheless concerns me. During the dark ages of this game, from i5 to i9, I was mostly elsewhere. I wanted to play a DPS fighter type, a character with above average armor and damage. I found that there was no place for such a character in that other game's endgame. Melee DPS was the function of another class, stealth based and more delicate and fussy than I was interested in. Players of my class were expected to build for tanking, a build that made non-teamed play unbearably tedious. The content was "challenging": entire raids were expected to wipe and wipe again until they got the dance steps exactly right.

    I took more than a year off from CoH to play this other game. There were other reasons why I left it --- loot and guild politics had even more to do with it --- but the fact that I saw that much of the content made the character I wanted to play more a liability than an asset was part of it.

    Very simply, I don't want to see that experience repeated here.