HelinCarnate

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Before the first patch, I gather many people were farming for pvp io drops while standing in front of the inspiration vendors in zone pvp? Die...pop rez...die...pop rez...die...pop rez...die...etc? If so, this would have generated way more kills per hour than arena farming.

The change on test might actually coerce people to attempt zone pvp!

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If they really wanted to coerce people to attempt zone pvp, this is not the way. They know what they have to do but refuse to admit that the post I12 PvP changes were a failure.

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At the con farming my alt I was indeed getting a kill every 5 seconds.

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and maintaining that for over an hour? If in arena you are limited by the rez delays in pvp zones you are limited by the number of 'wakes you can hold, unless you somehow have a self rez on a 4.5 second recharge (and if that is the case please share! ) most anyone can get 2 kills in 10 seconds but 720 in an hour is impressive. was this a group effort where several people would die, and run for wakes so you had a constant rotating death bed ?

actually that may not make for a bad SG event get a dozen people dieing 12 times an hour. sell the IO split the profits

please correct me if I am wrong:

To keep it simple say the average kill time stained over a period of time greater than 1 hour was 1 minute (you have to get to zone/arena, set up matches or find a quiet corner. have to wait for rez or run to buy more wakes, etc etc etc )

and now we have a 5 minute timer so the the actual time:drop should just be multiplied by 5 so if we were getting 1 an hour we now get 1 every 5 hours.

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Yes many people were doing this for several hours. A simple program (read exploit) used to continue to purchase and use wakies as fast as they died on one account and the other would be just out of range of the drones auto attacking.

There were those that would actually sit around and just buy wakies and use them on their own. They were the ones that were easy to spot as they would tell you not to ruin their farm and attempt to fight back when you killed or droned one of their farm toons.

Yup it is always the quantity of the last item. I sort by quantity decending before I sell so I only have to move the slider one time.

Yea baseline is about 2/3 fury will get you to scrapper damage with crits. Assuming normal slotting and no procs or external buffs. That makes the math a bit more difficult.

There will be new spine costume options so we dont have to go with the banana option.

Manuvers is a bit of an end hog. Not really worth the extra endurance in many cases. This build is about 3-5% lower def but more regen and better recovery. On my farmer that takes on the aggro cap of bosses I have less than 30% def to everything so this would still be quite sturdy.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
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Level 50 Natural Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(5), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(7)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(7), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(9), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(9)
Level 2: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(13), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(13), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(15)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal:50(A), RgnTis-Regen+:30(15), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(33), Mrcl-Heal:40(33)
Level 6: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(19), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(21), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx:30(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg:30(25)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(27)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- S'dpty-Def:40(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx:40(29), S'dpty-Def/Rchg:40(29), Zephyr-Travel:50(31), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:50(31), Zephyr-ResKB:50(31)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(33), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(34), HO:Golgi(34)
Level 18: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(36)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(36), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(37)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(37), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 30: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Oblit-Dmg:50(A), FrcFbk-Rechg%:50(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43)
Level 35: Health -- Numna-Heal:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(43), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(46)
Level 38: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(45), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(45)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(46), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 44: Electrifying Fences -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(50), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), Posi-Dam%:50(50)
Level 49: Strength of Will -- ResDam-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury

spines/elec..... nvm, gotta wait for that one.

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Doesn't that already exist?

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Yes, but make it even more noticable.

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So make it so it is more profitable to have others sit in your mish at the door instead of just setting it for a higher number of people? Gotta think like an evil farmer.

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Here's one of my fixes.

https://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthre...SID=&fpart=

AE isn't the problem. It is the cheating exploiters that are farming/pl'ing in the AE that are the problem.

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If you are really finding cheating and people exploiting you should report those to the devs rather than cry about it on the forums.

If your opinion reflected that of the dev staf of CoX, I am pretty sure they would make it so all boss spawns were not possible. Almost every actual exploit has been corrected, yet they continue to allow all boss maps.

Until a redname confirms that using only bosses in a mish is an exploit, it aint.

Their actions by allowing a solo person to spawn for 8 in I16 reinforces the assumption that greater risk is worth greater reward.

1. make mish with only boss mobs that spawn at 45+ that are easy to defeat.

2. Set the lowest level of that mission to 47.

3. Have a very experienced brute, scrapper, tank clear the map for you on highest difficulty. I about half an hour you go from 1-28. (assuming city map 2) That is one mission. Second mish will take you to about 36. 3rd mish will get you to 40. Then 43 then 46 by the 5th mission. So far that is about 2.5 hours and you have 4 levels left to go.

So far I have found this is currently the fastest way to level without using exploits.

Now with that being said, I would play the game and learn your toons as they grow. The only times I have acutally leveled that fast were for duplicating a toon I have on another server because I am too cheep to pay 10 bucks for a transfer.

But now you have to eat that leftover pie so in the future you can go back to the 18th to remind yourself not to eat it.

Base damage of almost 223 for total focus is probably one of the reasons. ET could use the stalker crits to eliminate the self damage instead of doing double damage so that is not really an issue.

gignore those that bug you. Problem solved without having to dedicate another server just to make a few cry babbies happy.

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For all we know the OP made his choice and has been happily playing his character while we bicker, LOL.

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Yup. My Elec/SD is fun! Thanks all for all the thoughts.

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And fun is what is important.

This will get me out of the AE for farming. That is for sure. I will be doing plenty of flashbacks to try content on a realistc difficluty for my IOed out toons.

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Seriously, who will be hurt by this decision? Who will be helped?

Which population has more to gain?

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This will depend, but if there is no EB version of TF AVs (or if the devs don't want TFs to spawn EBs) then unless you're an AV soloer, you'll get through the rest of the TF and be blocked from completion at the last mission. Even if you give the players a warning, that leaves a very narrow subset of players who'd be able to actually be able to solo the TF. (Keep in mind that TFs aren't just lvl50, so if you can solo an AV at lvl50 doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to at lvl20.)

Don't get me wrong Bill, I'm not against soloable TFs, but I don't think the majority of people would pull it off. Now if you wanted to just relax the necessary group members for most** TFs, then by all means.


**Some TFs would be impossible to solo. TFs with simultaneous clicks (Hess) or ones designed to be super difficult (STF) come to mind.


[edit: Oh, and I've said it elsewhere, but the new difficulty slider is win. Can't wait to crank it up for my Tank.]

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And those people that try it solo will have to learn the hard way that they can't solo everything.

Soloed lots of AV/Heroes on my EM/WP. It's not cheep but quite possible. Ms Liberty in the Mender Silos arc is the one that gave me the most trouble other than Statesman of course. Needed nukes, shivs, Ghost Widdow and that big giant spider to take him down. Not exactly solo unless you count the fact that I was the only one on the team.

Lesson learned. Don't argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Time to go and make a new farmer and see what mish would look good with more people.

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Cool. It will be hard to improve on Footstomp. Smashing both fists on the ground, maybe? That would be sweet.

How about a "random" option, in case you like both the old and new animations?

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Random option would be sweet.

Wow just..... wow.

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I would say you're an idiot but that might be against the rules of the forum.

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explain

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I'm guessing they're referring to the way you used the term "figure of speech" then slammed another user for not understanding it the way you used it. The normal way "figure of speech" is used is as a label for commonly used phrases that don't make literal sense like "I caught his eye from across the room."

What you used was more of a hypothetical example, not a figure of speech. And thus it's annoying when you misuse a term then impugn someone else's reading comprehension when they don't follow.

I could be wrong, but that's my take.

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thank you webster... actually, it means this:•an example of figurative language that states something that is not literally true in order to create an effect.

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Wait so you cannot stand in the middle of 16 EBs and go afk?

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(sigh) yes, i can. perhaps i should have said 16 AV's.. is that better? and no, i cant stand in the middle of 16 AV's and go afk... well i havent tried atleast.

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So based on the definition you provided you indeed did not use a figure of speach. Thank you for the clarification.

Now this is what street fighting would look like IMHO

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The last scene in "the one" when jet li was sent to that prision world and all of the prisioners was looking at him like he was fresh meat and he stands on that plat form and says, "I am Yu Law. I am nobody's b****. You are mine. It is not me who needs to know who you are. You are the ones who need to know who I am!" Then starts to beat the crap out of everyone that runs up. That ends up being everyone on the planet.

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