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Quote:Generally no unless you are going for a particular Io set bonus in those powers 3 -4 slots covers them do you use Mids Hero builder you could post your planed build and we can helpOriginally Posted by MT_Head
Ok, thanks, so do you think I should 6 slot tough and weave? I'm not really a "numbers guy". Maybe I should be... -
Can you sure I did it with my Katana/sr before but it came at a cost.
I gave up other IO's of + rech and + regen and + end to cove my 8% of defense I lost by not being able to use the +3% defense IO and weave slotted out
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Quote:Well when I get my second build slotted I will let you know I switched to villain just for Ball of Lighting since it only required one prereq instead of twoOriginally Posted by Ocasta
I tried looking at the numbers using the in game link system, I'm actually not sure if that works correctly, but when I typed [Mu Mastery.Ball Lightning] the base numbers were higher than fire ball. When you consider the fire ball dot though, fire ball pulls ahead slightly. Also ball lightning did not have the crit listed in the detailed description (unlike fire ball). If these are correct, does that mean PPP's currently can't crit for us?
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Fire/sd with ball of lighting or fireball
Can do ST damage and aoe damage with SC and GFS and then add in another aoe if you want.
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Quote:Can /sr farm sure it can survive and does give you 20% recharge but that does not make it a good farm set. Farming is about speed and efficiency which comes down to aoe damage output.Originally Posted by Streethawk
Wha?? Lies! I use a couple of my SR toons for farming all the time.. though I will agree that km/sr might not be a good combo. Elec/ or db/ or fire/ might be better balanced if you're looking for an /sr farming scrapper.
But as far as KM/SR being able to hold it's own.. there shouldn't be a problem, though I haven't looked over your build just yet.
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KM lacks a lot of aoe for farming and sr is not a good farming set period
elec /sd, /fa /da /ela would be better
spines /fa or /da
fire /sd or /fa
If you insist on using that set and want to add in another aoe switch villain side at 50 go lighting ball because it only requires 1 prereq not 2 like fireball and switch back -
Quote:The wording on the description is poor. I thought the same thing after reading the description during beta but testing shows it is on all the timeOriginally Posted by AcceleratorRay
I thought you didn't drain damage unless power siphon was active. That's
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Quote:I am glad he listen to the feedback on the SC thread; the 150s did not hurt my tricked out Fire/sd but when I was running on my km/sd SO build it sucked because I used it as much for mitigation as an attack the 90s with further reduced damage seem to make the power better for both things still does good damage (not broken amounts of damage) and still on a recycle time that provides solid mitigation.Originally Posted by Santorican
I'm glad Castle kept it at 90s it was originally going to be put at 150 seconds with a higher amount of damage.
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Quote:No skipping LF is a bad idea because it still increases your dps by more than you think take it and it is not that much of an agro magnet it is not AAO or InvincibilityOriginally Posted by twelfth
Thanks for the comments folks, I can live with a middle-of-the-road set as long as it isn't functionally unsuited for scrappers. Since Lightning Field doesn't crit and its generally an aggro field, I presume it is one of the skippable powers of the set? Any other pitfalls I should be aware of?
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I think he was referring to Shadow Meld
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The only time i even worry about that one is when I am 6 slotting for 2.5/1.25 defense to all
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Quote:I have one at 50 was a fun ride what is frustrating is end game like itf I had capped s/l resistance due to outside buffs he folded like a cheap tent in the itf; I started another one all the buffs where kin etc he just died all the time.Originally Posted by DSorrow
Time to work out a new build for my DB/Elec I guess.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siolfir
The 8 second snipe is completely retarded for any AT - it serves even less purpose on a Stalker who doesn't need to be at range to get in the first attack. If anything, I'd like to see all of them done away with and replaced with something that I may be able to find a use for beyond "hey, look how stupid this power is!"
But it's not in "every" set - you get Water Spout or Spirit Shark in Leviathan Mastery.
I forgot about that set ok 3 of the 4. The app/ppp just left a bad taste in my mouth it remind me of the AV regen overbuff they completely ignored during closed beta despite feedback.
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Quote:The reorder has been called since when I started in I2 so I am not going to hold my breath on that ever happening.Originally Posted by Santorican
Again I really think we should continue with figuring out how to balance out Shield Defense as well as Super Reflexes and less focusing on petty arguing on any other AT. This conversation should be about SR and Shield Defense. Someone brought up to buff Elude almost like MoG, I think that would go a long way into helping SR. I also think they should switch the order Evasion and Lucky in order to really help out SRs large AoE hole.
It is simple and I had suggested it in the past to drop the AAO cap now the break point it where does it get balanced what is the magical #% of damage buff. I am not the expert on that part I waiting for the better numbers guys then me to help with that part.
12.5 + 7% * x= y -
Quote:Hibernate is worthless for Av soloing because you are not doing damage they have regen to and high regen at that Hibernate is a pvp thing.Originally Posted by DSorrow
Heh, my SD/DM tank is very happy with Gloom and Dark Obliteration instead of his Fire Blast and Fire Ball. And he's also saving a power pick!
To be honest, I find the Stalker PPPs close to perfect for Scrappers. Now you can build for soft cap and grab hibernate for damage recovery. Should be silly for AV soloing, especially because you get Water Spout as a prereq. Then there's Shadow Meld for those of us who don't have soft cap and want MoG. Great, I say!
Stalker sets are not perfect how does a 8s sniper attack in every set a good idea ? Yes we can skip it but it is stupid to give a set a power that is utterly worthless even for bad players. They sub out duplicate powers with stuff and they should have sub out the sniper attacks with something even remotely useful hell a ST immobilize like ring of fire in place of a sniper shot would had been good.
The only thing about the entire app/ppp was that it is epic fail because it was last minute (or went down like it was)rushed and then totally ignored after that with out even much in the patch notes. -
Quote:The entire app/ppp was done in a rush hap hazard and seemed to be a last minute decision. Then it was pretty much ignored through out beta and disregarded. I think the Devs wanted to make changes but management had other time tables for what they had has a priority.Originally Posted by Rieze
You all are missing the best part.. Yes, its an extra pick but the real gold is in the "why?" Ball lightning at "44" and not "47". Simply lovely.
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Quote:No but you can pick am 8 second snipe if you like (that is the stupidest thing ever given to a scrapper) in 8 seconds we can run in and kill it allOriginally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Do Scrappers get Elec Fences? If so, the combination of it with Ball Lightning should do more damage than Fireball while saving you a power pick.
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Martial Arts - unresolved
Balance: Lacks AoE attacks but doesn't have more single-target damage compared to other sets - SpiderTeo_OC, 2007-09-07
The ST damage got a buff for Martial Arts bringing it up to one of the better sets this issue should be resolved in I18/GR
Balance: Martial Arts lacks a general secondary effect (Katana and Broadsword have -Def, Dark Melee has -Acc, Spines has Slow, Claws is faster and less END-costly) - SpiderTeo_OC, 2006-07-03
This I think was also addressed they gained -def (non enhanceable) as well to the set along with the other changes to Cobra Strike making it a more desirable power to use.
Balance: Cobra Strike does too little damage for its recharge time, compared to utility powers in other sets like Divine Avalanche, Follow Up, and Impale. Mag 3 stun is useful but lacks a consistent stun power that can be paired for bosses - Arcanaville, 2006-03-10
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Quote:All I need if they are fairly close then the extra power evens it out on my buildOriginally Posted by Gaidin
Fireball will do more damage. Like all fire attacks, it's secondary effect is more damage since it has a DoT. Still, saving a power choice for somewhat lower damage is appealing.
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Quote:Haha I remember when I got perma elude with 6 slotted hasten game me 5% defense and 6 slotted passives etc and I was at like 150% defense and I said watch me clear the floor and the dam crystal lt dropped that emulator and I folded like a cheap suitOriginally Posted by Rieze
i look at it as our version dominator's perma dom, widow's perma mind link, troller's perma indom will. Normal recharge values gives decent performance with those powers. high recharge make those powers sick. I would totaly agree if shadow meld was layered with some res, regen, or even def debuff res.
I think +Def wont be enough in the upcomming game changes. I already had a bad run in with some Devouring Earth in a tip mission with my claw/SR brute. Having to pull just made me feel like a weakling. I kept checking to see if all my toggles were on. And have you tried the maria arc? Bosses and Lts with a power that contain all 3 leadership toggles is just wrong.
Oh man oh man. How could I have forgotten all about that power? I gotta come up with a scrapper combo just for that power. Never hurts to have more.
DE and that Crystal drop is a SR Kryptionite -
Is the damage going to be comparable ?
The mids eyeball test they look close and instead of taking two powers to get fireball you only have to take one to get ball of lighting
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Quote:Thanks for the infoOriginally Posted by Umbral
For ranged damage, no. Stalkers have a .6 range damage scalar while Scrappers have a .5 ranged damage scalar. Luckily, APP ranged and AoE attacks don't use the ranged damage scalar: they use the melee damage scalar (because otherwise there's no point to using those attacks in the least).
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Quote:Is the stalker damage tables for ranged and stuff the same as scrappers ?Originally Posted by DSorrow
I'm wondering what the fuss about Shadow Meld is when we get Water Spout, too. Stalker numbers currently are 1.17 seconds cast (didn't include Arcanatime) for 271.1 base damage. Slotted up we're getting 500 damage against AVs for a 1 second cast power.
Sure, the endurance drain is horrible, but we get Hibernate in the same pool to help in emergencies. -
I posted this during the Beta so I figured this would help people until Mids gets an update out
*******Warning Backup anything before trying and do at your own risk *******
Ok I figured out how to make Mids show up PPP under scrapper to help get an idea of what a build would look like and should work for other classes and as everyone says back it up before you do anything.
So the steps
Options >Advanced >Database Editor then click Main Database
Under the group column highlight Epic >Next click on the the name of the epic pool like Stalker.... in the Middle column the far right column will show the 5 powers.
Select the first power click edit > click on requirements Tab >then in the required class add a check mark for the class that corresponds example Class_Scrapper. Do this for all 5 powers
*******NOTE************ The first two powers of the PPP will also need an additional step. Under required powered it says power a and b the words Villain appear this needs to be removed. Just highlight and select remove under the power A&B area
When done with all the editing click on the save and edit it will re-index the database
You are done good luck and I hope it helps -
Quote:I assume this would automatically go to brutes, stalkers and tanks for these sets that match the scrappers and I throw in Ninjitsu as well for stalkersOriginally Posted by Cyber_naut
Thats a good solution, I've suggested that in the past for tankers. Seeing tankers get pushed around just seems wrong on every level.