GuyPerfect

Except for the part where it defines what the service is:

Basically:

• The Service is the Game(s), which, since you seem to like overlooking things, is defined in section 1(a) as "City of Heroes," "City of Heroes Going Rogue" and/or "City of Villains"
• The Service requires a subscription.
• Additional fee-based features to the Service include, but are not limited to, cetain content, additional character slots and Super Boosters.

Section 2 goes on to specify that the Web Site is part of the Service and that use of the forums is tied to your account status. Afterwards it goes into the specifics of the NCcoin.

Section 4(d), which I quoted last time, specifies that any payment by charge or by NCcoin that we make is for access to the Service or to purchase Additional Features as defined in the excerpt of section 2 that I quoted above.

Things that are NOT included in the Service (as explicitly shown by their absence from the description of the service in section 2) are customer support, server maintenance and continued development. These are things NCsoft chooses to do on their end, most likely using money from our payments, but are not included in the terms of the User Agreement.

My point? We don't get content in exchange for our payment; it's not what we're paying for. Your argument? We do and the User Agreement doesn't say one way or the other. The User Agreement? It says one way or the other and it happens to agree with my point.


Here's another link to the User Agreement. Read it this time:

http://us.ncsoft.com/en/legal/user-a...agreement.html


In a literal sense, yes. We're also paying for the continued development of all the other games NCsoft owns, their custodian's salaries, who knows how many mortgages and auto loans, and eventually Uncle Sam gets his cut. That's all beyond the scope of the User Agreement--the definition of the fee that we pay--and to assert that the one is necessarily connected to the other is faulty reasoning, let alone saying that we're entitled to such a connection.

If too much memory is being used, Windows will halt, and the game may crash as a consequence of being denied block allocation. The screenshot provided is clearly showing the wrong memory being read/written altogether, which must, by definition, be caused by something other than a memory leak.

Since this isn't happening until a second instance of the game is loaded, I'd put my money on either something in the way AE works, or a faulty RAM module.


You can call it a hot dog if you want. Communication works best when there is little or no ambiguity, and in something called a "technical issues" board, I'd say it's in everyone's best interests if technical terms are all formally defined.

You made a Defender with just one powerset?

That... is exactly the point I was making. And that's exactly what the part of the quote I bolded is stating. I don't know what you think my point is, because you summarized it expertly in this above quote. I'd also like to add that in addition to not having ownership of our characters, we also are not purchasing new content except as provided with a price tag.


I don't know what to tell ya. NCsoft chooses to provide customer service for its subscribers, but that's their call. It's not granted by our individual payments.


Color me uninformed, but I've always been under the impression that our devs work on the game because they like to, because they find it fun, and because they want to provide their best work for us to enjoy. On the other hand, I believe that they are not working on it just to make money on it; that would be a very sad state of existence (like Electronic Arts, for example!).

Any good business will want to ensure it retains customers and draws new ones in by offering things that are better than anyone else offers, but it's pretty clear to me that this specific interest is not at the very top of the list of priorities for City of Heroes. NCsoft wants it to be, but War Witch and the rest of the development team are obviously more interested in making the game good than making the game sell.

Inherent Fitness, as an example, is a prime candidate for a Super Booster: it's all but guaranteed that it would be purchased by the vast majority of players. But we're getting it for free. Why? It just doesn't make sense from a business perspective, so maybe there's more going on here. Maybe they're doing us a favor; giving us some sort of gift that we ought to be thankful for.


According to the user agreement, expecting anything other than server access in exchange for payment is entirely unreasonable. If you can't accept that, then don't click "I Accept." Why on Earth do you insist on arguing to the contrary?

I was tanking in Black Swan's mission and was monitoring ToHit. At one point it got to -90% (a net debuff of -165%) and one of my teammates had Tactics running.

My hit chance was whereabouts of 10%, however, because my powers and build were right around 2.0X Accuracy per attack.

The above screenshot is depicting data corruption, as though the data somehow burst from its container and started "leaking" all over other regions of memory and producing garbage. (-:

A memory leak is simply where something is allocated but never freed, which results in available memory becoming less and less (leaking out) until eventually the computer runs out. The only screenshot you'd be able to show for a memory leak is that little balloon tip in the system tray saying that Windows is running low on virtual memory.

It sure would, and I sure do. It keeps me from making bogus claims like the devs misusing my money or that my payment is worth more than a simple access fee.


Well, I'm afraid I can't provide that for you to see, as it's not what I said. I said all of our payment is counted towards access to the service and nothing more. Upkeep and continued development are handled by NCsoft after the fact; we don't get that as part of our subscription. Customer support is basically provided as a token of appreciation; we don't pay for that either.


For the record, my remark wasn't intended for you specifically, but as a general comment to anyone who tries to assert that their money is worth more than it is.

Leo G said it best: the devs don't have to give us *squat* for free. You interjected with a suggestion that your money is purchasing development, and that people who object to the production of Super Boosters rather than get stuff for free are not demonstrating perceived entitlement.

Frankly, the truth is just the opposite. We pay for access; that's it. Someone doesn't want to pay for Super Boosters because they think they should get the new features for free? That's entitlement because it suggests that the devs aren't allowed to charge us for something. But we made the agreement at the time of purchase saying that they are, so it all just adds up to careless ignorance that could have been avoided by reading the ever-present User Agreement in the first place.

Funny you should bring it up. It happens to be in that City of Heroes User Agreement that you've obviously never read and skip over every time you play:

"I'm paying to keep the game going and that grants me investor's rights to dictate what the developers can or cannot sell to me wah wah wah wah"

No, you're paying $15/month for server access. NCsoft has made the statement publicly that 100% of the subscription payment goes to server access, so no one's entitled to anything more because no one's paying for anything more.

How costly would it be to make one of my own? A little HTML here, a little CGI there... All you'd need is a server, and that's something I got!

I was referring to Vanden's pack.

Either way, both Vanden and Corva use the same compositing software and incidentally...


... I was the one who made that program, so rest assured that it will remain squarely in the hands of the players. (-:

Yeah, I was going for the irony with that one. (-:

What, is your mom paying your subscription or something? I like to play this game, and I will continue to give NCsoft my fifteen dollars every month for as long as it remains fun. I want to pay more, for it allows me to keep doing what I like to do.


I bought the Mac pack for Mission Transporter. It's awesome. (I've also gotten many miles out of some of the Valkyrie parts)

I bought the Super Science pack to change body type. It's also awesome.

I bought the Magic pack for the slick costume change emotes. It too is awesome.

I bought the Good vs. Evil edition since it came with a free month and had some goodies for only five dollars more. Maybe not as awesome, but that Pocket D porter has been useful. And the Justice shoulders are cool.


If I felt that I wasn't getting something my not-money was not-paying for, I'd become a not-subscriber very quickly. But the very fact that each of us can post on these message boards goes to show that we think it's worth at least the subscription that we continue to pay.

Eddie's no fool. He knows he should take out Blue Steel before all hell breaks loose.

Technically, it is a set bonus; it's just granted by slotting a specific Enhancement rather than multiples from the set. The law of fives will block the sixth Enhancement in any such situations.


To answer your question in its most fundamental state: the Aegis psi resist will stack with the Impervium Armor psi resist. You can have 5 Impervium Armors before the law of fives kicks in, and on top of that you can have 5 Aegises before the law of fives kicks in (for a total of +30% resistance to Psionic).


The notion that the name of a set bonus is counted in the algorithm for the law of fives is a bit of a misnomer, but I don't blame everyone for believing it: Castle said that's how it works. However, unless the law of fives really was implemented that sloppily, it's more likely that it counts how many times a given power is applied to your character.

Set bonuses are auto powers, pure and simple. They're granted to your character just like the Accolades or whatever, but they don't show up in the Status window. The actual powers that grant the effects of the set bonuses in question can be seen by typing the following into the game's chat window:

• [Impervium Armor]
• [Set Bonus.Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance]

If either of these powers shows up a 6th (or more) time, you won't see the benefit of it.