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  1. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Deathstroke33 View Post
    I've never played a dom before. I tend to lean towards tanks, scrappers and brutes with the occasional defender mixed in. Looking over the dom primaries and reading the threads on here a plant dom seems like a good starting point. However, given that I am pretty clueless when it comes to dom's I could be totally wrong.
    Plant/Fire/(Fire) is the Brute of doms. My fav.
  2. Granite Agent
    What is the i21 release date?
  3. Granite Agent
    Wait DXP Wkd has been delayed ... will that buy us enough time to see the release of WM/SD before the rescheduled DXP?
  4. Granite Agent
    Am I the only one who is roundly disappointed that we appear to be getting a Double XP weekend before I can roll a WM/SD scrapper?
  5. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Giant2005 View Post
    For me, the deciding factor between Claws and Katana is only one attack in Claws can take the -resistance Achille's Heel proc. That means with claws you will be doing 20% more damage SOME of the time. Aside from Divine Avalance and it's + Defense ability, every attack within Katana can take that proc and it will be constantly applied. 20% more damage SOME of the time doesn't compare well to +40-60% damage MOST of the time.
    Well you can put the Fury of the Gladiatory proc in either Spin or Evis?

    Most top Kat-chains I've seen (GC-SD-GC-GD or the longer one) generally (in my exp) only slot one Achilles Heel -RES (and some put the Glad - RES) as well.
  6. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tannim222 View Post
    Claws can be built to have both decent ST and AoE within the same build. Or it could be built to be really good at ST, and provide some AoE, or built the otherway around.
    My Claws/SR runs the highest ST chain (FU-Focus-Slash) and also chains FU-Spin-Eviscerate with shockwave thrown in for good measure as needed. So that would seem to say you can get really good ST & AOE out of claws, no?
  7. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus View Post
    Regardless of whether or not you want a Street Justice Scrapper (and since they are selling this to us for $$ over our subs, I have a feeling we all will want to) I highly recommend you do in fact make a WM/SD.
    Well that Fury of the Gladiator -RES proc has been sitting in my tray waiting to go somewhere ... and where better than Crowd Control
  8. Granite Agent
    I wish they would just out and tell us the specs of these sets already, arg.

    I was already contemplating a WM/SD scrapper. But now I have to think about Street Justice too. And I have a bunch of toons to remake if it ends up being a good set. Basically right now my rotation of FM/Inv Brute, DM/SD scrap, Claws/SR brute, MA/SD scrap is already too much ....
  9. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Werner View Post
    OK, I have you at 194 DPS.

    You're at 198 DPS while Hasten is up. Hasten should be down for about 15 seconds by my calculations. While it's down, Golden Dragonfly has about a 0.7 second gap, so DPS will go down quite a bit. Looks like about 165. Still, that's just for 15 seconds. So time averaged would only bring you down to about 194. You aren't taking time to heal because of regeneration. You don't have Practiced Brawler slowing you down. I assume you aren't using other clicks or inspirations or anything else that would take time.

    So I'm not sure why I'm calculating almost 15 more DPS than you're seeing in game. It's certainly possible that I have something wrong in my calculations.
    Hey Werner. Thanks for checking. There may have been some misclicks etc that contribute to real performance being below what you calculate, but I remember definitely not being impressed by hitting around 180dps.

    I think I filled the hasten-down gap by using Slice (the aoe cone) as a filler attack waiting for GD?
  10. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MajorTractor View Post
    How much below? When I was running pylon times on my corr, I remember that small mistakes ended up making fairly big differences in my times and dps.

    Building fury could be the problem if your begenning with 0. Fury builds very quickly and is easy to maintain +70% even with one target, the couple seconds could easily make the difference in a few dps on a pylon.
    I started as close to 75% as I could. Other details in the other post (link).
  11. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Werner View Post
    Things the build has:
    • purple proc and debuff proc in both Gambler's Cut and Golden Dragonfly
    • two regular damage procs in Soaring Dragon
    • +22% damage from sets
    • +10.5% damage from Assault
    • Gaussian proc
    • Build Up recharges in 26.09
    None of those are magic alone (except arguably the Achilles' Heel), but it all adds up. For the sake of argument, I'm going to remove the Gladiator's Fury proc, Assault, set damage, and the extra proc in Soaring Dragon. We still have the purple procs, the Achilles' Heel, and the fast Build Up recharge, so we're still decently-slotted, and better slotted than many builds. Now I'm at 200 DPS. So there's 40 DPS right there. Heck, if I gut everything but the Build Up recharge, we drop to 160 DPS, so another 40 DPS. So in a sense, 80 DPS is procs, Assault and set bonuses. 1/3 of the damage is procs, Assault and set bonuses. So yeah, they can make a big difference.

    It appears I didn't deduct for Practiced Brawler activation time, but did for Hasten. I'm sure that was intentional, but I'm not sure WHY. On brief glance I was consistent with that. That would probably drop it by maybe 4 DPS? It might have had something to do with my time frame, since I wasn't shooting for sustainable endurance, but then why would I deduct for Hasten? Anyway, that's arguably a calculation error, and would be for pylon soloing, say, which is what we're often comparing against these days. You'd also need to factor in healing time with pylon soloing, but not including healing time isn't a bug in the calculations, just something to keep in mind for some real world applications of the DPS. In others, like a Tanker-taunted AV, it wouldn't be a factor.

    Edit: If you'd like, I could calculate the DPS for your build using my spreadsheet, and see how close I come. My guess is that if 180 DPS is your pylon DPS, I'd calculate something more like 190 DPS in the spreadsheet. It might give some idea not the margin of error, but the difference in the things being compared (theoretical max DPS vs. observed in the real world on real computers while healing damage, clicking Practiced Brawler, occasionally making mistakes in the chain, and so on).

    Or maybe I'd see a surprisingly high number, and it might suggest that I have a problem somewhere.
    Here's the build I was running.

    • purple proc and debuff proc in Gambler's Cut
    • purple proc (Armg set) in Golden Dragonfly
    • NO damage procs in Soaring Dragon
    • +7.5% damage from sets
    • Gaussian Proc in build up
    • Build Up recharges in 27 secs with hasten up (131 secs)
    That's with an E/N soft-cap (L/M with Divine Av), and 626% regen. So definitely it was a mix of trying to build for DPS and survivability. Just surprised it made such a difference (60 dps).



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  12. Granite Agent
    Did 2 pylon runs to confirm my DPS on my Claws/SR brute. running about ~190dps.

    That's below what Claws scraps were getting. So I still think for single-target, Brute claws falls behind?

    http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...postcount=1969
  13. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze View Post
    Well MIDs should have the arcana time option built in.
    under options-configuration-math... check arcana time

    Formula should be...
    =(ROUNDUP(CAST/0.132,0)+1)*0.132

    CAST being the regular cast time

    Edit:
    So fireblast at 1.2 cast time
    (1.2/0.132)+1=10.090909... round up to 11
    11*0.132=1.452

    Hope I did that right
    Mids reports cast time as 1.452 using the Aracnatime option.

    The question is, is the DPA that much better than Cobra Strike if you purple it like you suggested? Will check in game.

    Games says
    Fire Blast - lvl 50 scrapper
    55.45 avg dmg
    46.21 Dmg per Activation Time
    which it parses as 45.60 fire dmg and 4 ticks of 80% chance for 4.17 fire dmg

    Cobra Strike - lvl 50 scrapper
    122.62 avg dmg
    73.43 dmg per activation time
  14. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
    I suspect the reason it works out that way is that it means you're applying more proc chances per second overall and getting about the same base DPA out of the power to begin with. Further, you already have hecatomb slotted in storm kick so this adds another purple proc to the chain where there otherwise could not have been one.

    Sounds like a fun chain but I know my own MA scrapper could never pull it off while keeping all the defense I want.
    RedTomax has FireBlast (Scrapper epic) at 1.32 dmg but Cobra Strike at 2.058. Does the purple proc really make up that difference?
  15. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Werner View Post
    It's the normal DPS chain.

    The first post in the pylon thread was a Katana/Willpower doing 194 DPS while using Divine Avalanche. Assuming it was properly marked as a pre-incarnate time, BrokenPrey did 220 on his Katana/Super Reflexes in the pylon thread. I don't see 240 DPS on a non-incarnate Katana, but I believe it's possible based on the calculations. So unless you see an error in the calculations, yes, I think it's fair to say that Katana can get 240 DPS.
    .
    I'd really want to understand what other +dmg effects and procs were running, either though IO bonuses or Assault etc. Because honestly how can maybe adding the Fury -RES proc make that much difference in dps? I mean, a chain is a chain -- if you can run the GC-SD-GC-GD chain, what could be causing a variance of +/- 40dps (assuming pre-incarnate).
  16. Granite Agent
    So here is my Claws/SR brute. I was getting 187-188 dps tops, on the pylon test. It might have been held back by a tiny little delay in FU recharge, though in MIDS it shows being able t run FU-Focus-Slash (repeat) without problems.

    Similar Scrapper builds appeared to be getting higher DPS. Which is why I'm surprised everyone here is talking about how much better Claws are for brutes. Maybe that's accounting for Spin and other attacks that are not in my chain?

    Maybe the optimal chain for Brutes is not FU-Focus-Slash? Especially given what people are saying here about certain brute attacks for Claws having been given higher base dmg?

    Anyway I'm open to suggestions as I haven't played this guy much since feeling that his DPS fell behind his Scrapper counterparts. Even my FM/INV brute was getting higher DPS (~195).

    Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
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    Sharpened: Level 50 Technology Brute
    Primary Power Set: Claws
    Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
    Power Pool: Leaping
    Power Pool: Fighting
    Power Pool: Medicine
    Power Pool: Speed
    Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

    Villain Profile:
    Level 1: Swipe -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Focused Fighting -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Rchg+(9), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
    Level 2: Slash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), Achilles-ResDeb%(13)
    Level 4: Focused Senses -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(15), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
    Level 6: Spin -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(19), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Oblit-%Dam(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23)
    Level 8: Follow Up -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(25), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Hectmb-Dam%(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(29)
    Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- EndRdx-I(A)
    Level 12: Agile -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29)
    Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40)
    Level 16: Dodge -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43)
    Level 18: Focus -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apoc-Dam%(36), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExStrk-Dam%(50)
    Level 20: Evasion -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(36), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(37), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(37), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(48)
    Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
    Level 24: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(33), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
    Level 26: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(39), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40), RedFtn-EndRdx(46), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
    Level 28: Lucky -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(37), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43)
    Level 30: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
    Level 32: Eviscerate -- Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Dam%(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(42), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
    Level 35: Quickness -- Run-I(A)
    Level 38: Aid Self -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/Rchg(40), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48)
    Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A)
    Level 44: Shockwave -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(46)
    Level 47: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
    Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
    Level 0: Born In Battle
    Level 0: High Pain Threshold
    Level 0: Invader
    Level 0: Marshal
    Level 50: Spiritual Total Core Revamp
    ------------
    Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
    Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
    Level 1: Fury
    Level 4: Ninja Run
    Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
    Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
    Level 2: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(46), Mrcl-Heal(48), RgnTis-Regen+(50)
    Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(3), P'Shift-End%(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(5), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(5), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(31)
  17. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hai Jinx View Post
    I agree here -- it also animates a lot faster than the other Scrapper PBOEs

    Everything around you going down like bowling pins every few seconds is also fun.
    I think one problem is the radius feels small. Especially compared to things like Footstomp or even Fireball from epics.

    I only had DT and Shield Charge on my MA/SD, and it didn't feel like I could chain enough AOE so I added Fireball and now there is a killer 3-aoe chain after which DT has recharged.
  18. Granite Agent
    Given the best I could pull out of a Kat/WP running a chain of GC-SD-GC-GD with the -RES achilles (missing the Glad proc) was around 180dps while maintaining reasonable levels of survivability (which still weren't that great, but like 600% regen and maybe S/L softcap) on a build a ways back, is it really fair to be saying Kat can get 240dps? (pre musc)

    Is that with some crazy chain like GC-SD-GD repeat that can't exist on "normal" builds?
  19. Granite Agent
    FWIW without reading the whole thread I will say that for single-target DPS, my Claws/SR brute underperformed Claws/SR scraps on the pylon test. This largely (I believe) was due to the +dmg buff of follow-up being significantly lower on Brutes and also the lack of criticals (post Fury nerf, crits pull ahead). Best I could get was around 180dps.

    Chain was FU-Focus-Slash [repeat] with standard proccing.

    So while Spin may be better on a Brute, ST dps falls behind the scrap afaik.
  20. Granite Agent
    Here's my FM/Inv brute. Was getting 195dps on pylons pre incarnate stuff. Chain is Gloom - Incin - Crem - FS. Went FM because Fury on brutes boosts the DOT.

    Extremely survivable. DM/INV is stronger but I have a DM/SD already.

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  21. Granite Agent
    MA/SD. Runs SK-CS-SK-CAK. Kills stuff dead. With tasty AOE. Eats blues.
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  22. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    You know, I wasn't going to bring it up, but yeah Warshades really fit the bill for darkness powers. By far, they are the most fun thing this game has to offer (in my opinion). If you're interested, I suggest you read the guide in my sig.

    But if you're going for strict "Darkness" powers, then a Dark/Dark/Dark defender is an amazing thing.

    Dark Armor is my favorite of any armor set. I've had great success with a Dark/Fire Tank, a Claws/Dark Brute, and now a Spines/Dark Stalker. I'm going to complete my tour with a Dual Blades/Dark Scrapper.
    Warshades don't have mez protection outside of Lobster Form, right? That always spoiled them for me.
  23. Granite Agent
    MA/SD is way fun. I have posted some builds recently.
  24. Granite Agent
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Linea_Alba View Post
    In contemplating a Dominator I'm looking at Plant/ Primarily and Electric/ Second; wondering what I should pair with each, and then which one to make first ?
    Linea -- Plant/Fire/Fire is crazy good, the brute of Doms. Starts strong and stays so. You could go Plant/Fire/Ice for Sleet and S/L def, but honestly Embrace of Fire plus Fireball/ROF is insanely good (plus Roots to hold them all in the burning mayhem).

    Here's an older build -- I've subsequently re-slotted Roots for damage and procs (Posi Blast and procs).

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  25. Granite Agent

    DB/DA build advice

    POST-ACTION

    Check the scrapper forum -- Iggy posted his build a ways back and it spurred some discussion, lots you can steal from there for Brutes.