Gorgog

Havent really played devices too far yet but are the mines not classed as pets and therefore (untill player buffs transfer to pets) worth having 2 accs in?

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i got one of those stalker hunters on defiant. With almost 400 pvp rep although i am AR/Dev which imho is the best stalker hunter

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I disagree, Fire/Dev FTW

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After seeing Blazen and Fire-Flare in Siren's, I'd be interested in seeing how they cope in Warburg / RV. I would sway more in favour for BURNING HELLFIRE AND SCORCHING DEATH, yes.

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Like i said Fire/Dev suffers from trailing issue.In fact worse trailing issue is with Fire blaster snipe that has a huge line animation thus is the most vulnurable of all if u play with defiance.If played as normal there is no difference than a regular blaster that fires 3-5 combos to finish off.

The AR build > blaster primary when played as a defiance build simply because it ensures more survivability and better entry exit to the target. With AR u can float above a whole team.Snipe and kill your target and exit while they are still looking for you.

In Warburg Ar is just nastier..a lot nastier with full auto animation

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It isnt a way I play so I may be off track but do you also use alot of luck insps to pull this off?

Also I am guessing autohit toggles are probably no real threat vs snipe due to range.

How about ranged aoe rain attacks like blizzard?

Thanks for all the replies. I dont really let broadcast chat effect me but I was tired last night and what annoyed me most was the player putting down someone else who was not even around to defend himself.

Unfortunatly no time now to play for a bit but look forward to more fun on Defiant.

P.S. Yay, I saw you in SC as Stryka! Erm... well over broadcast at least . Was being very quiet there and was compleatly outclassed with my scrapper, Ploppy Son of Ploppy.

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Also if you dont one hit an SR stalker would he not just hit elude heal and kill you quicly as your on low health? Only guessing, and with untraceable attacks I guess it could take em a while to work out where you are.

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Just to let you on a small secret here.AR snipe has knockdown.Pretty much covers the gap for the follow up shot and the animation .This means that while the stalker for 2 seconds is being knocked i am loading second follow up snipe .By time he is going to hit heal i am firing.

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Dont regens get defence against knockback?

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They all do dont they? Save for Nin that is.

Hi there,

Usually play on Union but after talking to some folk from Defiant I decided to see what the action was like on this side.

Yesterday I had a great time in BB (playing a hero) with a defender who had never done any PvP before.

Today I went into SC and it was more or less relaxed, I did get it handed to me as I was only level 20 and there was one funny hero on who seemed to have it in for everyone but not knowing the people on I took it all as friendlty banter.

Anyway... went into BB to end the night and hopping about I saw a brute and a corrupter on a roof top. Decided to try me luck, (cor 1st, then brute).

Turned out it was a group consisting of no less then a stalker, corruptor, an MM and a brute.

Well skipping merrily along I killed the MM and corrupter countless times and the brute once, didnt kill the stalker and got killed twice myself.

All good, well they were not, but its only a game so what does it matter.

However after a while the stalker decides to go off on one. Claims to know all the figures for the game, though she got them wrong and then decides to accuse me of being a completely different person and insults all and sundry.

Ok, very long post, my question is though is it just some poor players that are letting Defiant down or is it really not worth bothering with PvP here?

I am not totally bitter as I have had some fun but I would like to know if this is what one should expect, it really isnt at all like this on Union.

Thanks for your time.

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Ooooh, you hit the damage cap with defiance? Sweet!

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And that would explain the insane accuracy on this build

I know its not a FoTM build and prolly people still prefer to go Fire or energy or Elec but i always want to be creative to my builds.I picked the defiance thing that i like from a friend that used it (Thanks Xiro) and ellaborated on that and built a toon around this with lots of testing and thought about the powers and tactics i would use. Yeah is not min/max build but hey U wanna see a target?i ll see it for you and light it up.You wanna take out silently a target i am the one that will do for you and will live to tell after cause noone will know who did it.No trailing no combat log nothing.Worse than a stalker imho.I still laugh at broadcasts "what killed me!?" or people thinking they do insane damage when i shoot from above and move on.

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On paper it looks crazy. Also completely different to how I play as I like to play with my food.

Just hope I get to see you in action some time, erm and preferably on the right side of your gun. From the sounds of things if I am on the wrong side Ill not get too see you at all.

Is that the time??!?!1

Well anyway, just came out of BB after reaching 15 on my 1st char on Defiant and had a very nice time. Friendly banter between villains and heroes and apart from 3 bars of debt all was good .

Looking forward to SC, tomorrow maybe .

Hmm, that could well be right .

Certainly two figures are coming up and my mate was saying it was smashing damage but perhaps the "smashing" damage is really just the non resisted damage.

Thanks and apologies to all if this is the case. Though the damage in brackets are still right for total damage for each attack at level 26.

P.S. Ill kill him btw as I kept asking if he was 100% sure of what he was saying.... then again he was in the middle of an SC battle at the time .

Edit: Yup just snuck into SC and tested out on level 30 mobs and players the damage on my blaster. Seems like an extra figure is given showing the unresisted damage (around 33% on enhanced damage).

Many thanks to both Hot Mills and Dark Robotica for their contribution .

Another thing that looks interesting is vengence. But then when fighting a stalker I guess it may often be the case that one out of the team could end up dead .

Perception is not a secondary effect of IR Goggles but pretty sure the effect is boosted.

Think it is more a case of finding the effects that are not changed by power boost (like damage) rather then those that are as most effects are.

Very interesting build. Does seem to rely on defiance quite a bit, or is it still possible to do well without any defiance?

Also if you dont one hit an SR stalker would he not just hit elude heal and kill you quicly as your on low health? Only guessing, and with untraceable attacks I guess it could take em a while to work out where you are.

Well lets see...

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Blaster elec deals no smashing damage...

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Are you sure about this? Vs other players it seems to do so, vs mobs it doesnt, test was player vs player and in PvP electric damage is split between energy and smashing.

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When you look at damage you have to look at potential dps. I've always had a ball park figure of a defenders attacks being 75% of a blasters in my head without bothering to look into it. My defenders dont even try to be blasters unless i have nothing else to do and as a proactive buffer that is rare.

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Elec snipe at level 26 without enhancements does 99 damage, psi snipe does 64. While elec blaster and defender sniape would be better to test with it would suggest that base defender damage is 65% of blaster damage.

These are just figures, people can take them as they like but this is how it is for PvP .

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Your method is slightly flawed but your result is about right

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Yup, in that I didnt mention its for PvP, cos I care naught for PvE .

No real reason for this post other then Ive just been testing it and some people may be interested .

At level 26 for both blaster and defender no enhancements.


Tele Blast: 17 Psi / 21 Smash Damage, 5 second recharge, 100 yards, (38 damage)
Charged Bolts: 25 Nrg / 11 Smash Damage, 7 second recharge, 80 yards, (36 damage)
Will Dom: 45 Psi Damage, 8 second recharge, 100 yards, (45 damage)
Lighning Bolt: 41 Nrg / 18 Smash Damage, 12 second recharge, 80 yards, (59 damage)
Psi Snipe: 64 Psi Damage, 12 second recharge, 175 yards, (64 damage)
Elec Snipe: 69 Nrg / 30 Smash Damage, 12 second recharge, 150 yards, (99 damage)

Does suggest that Defender damage is 65% of Blaster's (looking at snipe figures). Recharge rates are with hasten.

P.S. If figures for elec are wrong blame me m8 .

Kinda depends what wine they are served with.

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Don't as I can't hear TS if I have music as well.

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...I play music so I can't hear TS ;p

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Also your avatar has to be the coolest!

Forget Electric brutes I want the origami set.

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no no no Fire/Dev is FoTM in USA mostly due to high dmg attacks.

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But dats the whole fun .

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Its fun actually hitting them.Not getting out of range message all the time

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Super Glue FTW!

Ooohh. very classy .

Although isnt it all about monks and nuns getting frisky? .

ATM for me its Break on Through and Take is as it Comes by the Doors.

Edit: Think Ill dig up Mozart's Requiem though .

Argh! Fire/Dev is FoTM on defiant? See more Ice/Devs on Union .

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Furthermore if you look at all blaster attacks you will see that a stalker hunter sniping will have to snipe from 230 yards then move down to 70-90 yards to perform follow up attacks at best chance.

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But dats the whole fun .

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Erm... minus the getting out alive bit.

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Rather why I prefer scrapper over Blaster. Did try and work out a good Tank/Stalker build...

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ROFL, for tank's stealthyness or their imba damage?

Hmm, wasnt Spines/Regen FoTM in I3 for drecks even? Well that and Fire/Fire (tank... not blaster )

One grant invis reaches non-stalker stealth cap.... or so peritus's guide says. Cap is not much over half that which a stalker can reach though.

That being said when I had stealth on my blaster he felt like a hero stalker type .

Erm... minus the getting out alive bit.

Yup to me honest Im not sticking to much of what I posted, realised caltrops was a bit OTT as its perma out the bag .

Id have SJ,SS and Fly if they let me .

Stealth isnt a real problem though as I was just going to buy it for SC.

Ice epic is probably horrible but snowstorm, web grenade and caltrops looked like they could be fun together, not just for slow but also -recharge .

Well hopefully carry on leveling him, also making a compleatly new type of scrapper for defiant SC. One that has ranged attacks and can heal himself.... a combo i am sure has never been tried before .

Thanks for the help.

Edit: Oh yeah, went fire for quick anim and dot, also rain could be fastest way to light up a flying stalker I think compaired to web/trops.

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Only thing is that, as Krunch said, TP + some sets (dev or traps for instance) is an "I win" button.

At the moment most ATs are not set up to do this. However when the PvP zones are as full of people using TP to get their targets onto an instant kill zone as they are presently full of stalkers some may feel that it is no longer fun to PvP.

Stalkers have to AS close up, TP instant kills have a very long range.

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funny how the stalkers have a problem with this...

how wud u like a dev blaster to kill u? tickle u til u surrender?

i've been tp'd by far more stalkers and been AS'd by 3 of them waiting together, i got no problem with it, just find the tp'er and kill them

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Dont really know why stalkers would have a problem with it either...

Only problem I see is after these posts there could be as many Dev blasters running about on hero side as stalkers on villains.

P.S. Making a dev blaster meself atm and will be very unhappy if a field of trip mines only "tickle" people to death .

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where did i ever say trip mines tickle people to death?

i've only seen people with stalkers complaining about being TP'd into mines

i would bet a lot of money that people don't go and make /dev blasters just to TP people in PvP zones...

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Guess not, making mine so I can snipe as well as TP people into mines.

Gotta have a bit of variety .