Gearford

Originally Posted by Humility

Not that I particularly care anymore after the troll nature of most posters on this subject have showed, but they were all common double/triple IOs. Many of them were pieces that I purchased and used while leveling my scrapper in the past week. Blueside I was able to buy most of them RIGHT NAO for 20-50K. My redside bids were between 50-500K depending on the recipe and history. No point lowballing when I'm trying to test something TO PROVE IT TO MYSELF. I could care less about proving board posters right or wrong. You were saying something that did not agree with my personal experience, so I tested it. I would love to be proved wrong and be shown that there is an ample supply of redside leveling IOs easily accessible.

I prefer playing and leveling redside, but I really like shiny little toys for my toons. Its fun and gives me something I can look forward too. Hey, at level XX I can start slotting [shiny set] into my powers, yay! It's fun. Redside market cannot support that. The market for 50 ios is probably fine, I don't know or care. To my experience, blueside I was able to buy basic common sets easily, cheaply and quickly. Redside those same pieces were unavailable over a much greater timeframe with higher priced bids.

For the record I think most of what I bid on was Bonesnap, Pulverizing Fisticuffs, Bruising Blow and Pounding Slugfest. I didn't double check that every recipe was indeed a common (technically uncommon I guess) drop, but they were all basic stuff, I avoided quads, procs etc.

But hey, keep flaming me, it really makes you look tough and drives the point home. What point exactly that would be... I leave up to the individual reader.

Originally Posted by Lucky666

just conform already :P

Originally Posted by IamVT

We had a great time yesterday and large turnout. We ended up forming 2 separate Lady Gray teams due to the amount of villains on hand. We will do this again next weekend on Sunday at 10:00 A.M.

Links to screenshots and results:
Total: 213 merits

The Beast Beneath the Mountain SF: 33:17

Pirates of the Sky SF: 1:00

Our SF team stopped along the way to kill the Ghost of Scrapyard

Temple of the Waters SF: 43:03

1st Respec Trial: 16:54

2nd Respec Trial: 25:16

3rd Respec Trial: 18:10

The Crystal of Seraphina SF: 1:01

Times Arrow SF: 46:57

The Lady Gray SF: 1:08

Originally Posted by Humility

Several days ago when this thread kind of exploded into the mess that it is now, I decided to actually test the assertions of the marketeers posting here.

I placed bids on a number of odd level (PROBLEM 1) (17, 23, 27, 29 etc) recipes. I chose recipes that would be useful for frankenslotting, but avoided the high demand quads and such. All bids were placed at (SUBJECTIVE) reasonable prices, in that if it had a consistent history (ALREADY ADRESSED) I matched it. If there were large price spikes, I placed bids reflecting the median price.

Every bid is still sitting unfilled.

Originally Posted by gec72

Yeah, I guess that's a valid interpretation. I was thinking more in terms of #6 here: informal, relaxed (though SOME players are #4 ). I'm an avid player - I play nearly every day and have for the past 4 1/2 years - but I usually do so in what I consider a casual - or at least non hard-core manner. I don't seek the best of the best IO, I don't take on the toughest challenges (soloing AV, running x8 mob sizes, taking on level 54 Rikti).

For someone to say "I play only a couple hours here and there, but make 200M a week - and I'm still casual!" (paraphrasing)...well, yes, perhaps by time you are casual, but performance-wise, that's not "happening by chance" or "coming to pass without design." The results are a result of effort, and they're not typical. By the same token, I guess my use of Mids to plot every power, slot, and enhancement on the way to 50 probably isn't casual either.




Heh. Very true. But 45 mintues of a speed ITF is more involved than beating up a warehouse full of Mooks (and maybe taking 20 minutes in the middle of the mission to warm up a can of Chef Boyardee).

Originally Posted by gec72

Is it though? I would think casual would equal leisurely. I would consider a speed TF to be higher impact - requiring more attention and more energy. Like say, running a 5:00 mile as opposed to jogging for 30 minutes. You also need to be somewhat skilled to be able to pull off one, whereas any old joe can accomplish the latter.

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm

Just play your corr Redside. Redside is better, more difficult content :O

Originally Posted by Ben_Arizona

After thinking about what doesn't work with the redside plot, it occurred to me what I'd like to see to fix it.

Instead of doing your contacts to gain Arachnos's favor or get an unspecified payoff, you're doing it to get their loyalty - you are planning from day one to take over, and you are bribing, beating or blackmailing people into backing you instead of Lord Recluse when it happens through the story arcs leading up to it. The patron arc has you getting into Lord Recluse's confidence through one of his lieutenants, and the final arcs would have you defeating the lieutenants and Lord Recluse himself, leaving you soundly in charge of Arachnos. There would still need to be an excuse for leaving Lord Recluse alive as a figurehead (maybe so that nobody notices the upheaval and you're free to work on your schemes while Lord Recluse catches assassins' bullets) but I would find that far more villainous and satisfying than kissing Recluse's backside from 1 to 50.

Originally Posted by gec72

That doesn't sound very casual, at least not to me. I would consider myself a "casual" player, and I'm lucky if I participate in a TF once a month.

(though yes, in many ways I am also a "lazy" player)

Originally Posted by Gen_Gintoki

Mission: A Hero's Hero
Contact: Maria Jenkins
Location: Peregrine Island

Date & Time: Thursday, February 18th @ 10:00PM Eastern

Level Range: 45-50

Villains: Praetorians

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Originally Posted by Humility

The red market isn't broken. It simply isn't casual friendly. Not everyone plans their build out 15 levels in advance so they can place bids far enough in advance to actually get the sets they need at the point when they are level appropriate.

It isn't broken. It is just very poorly supplied. It is also so low traffic it is exceedingly easy to manipulate. I know, I've done it just so I can understand it. You seem to just want to fixate on the idea that I fail at playing the market, when you really have no way of knowing one way or the other. I understand how to do it, I just don't enjoy it. My 10 year old also doesn't enjoy it, and he also doesn't enjoy waiting 3+ days for a fun little shiny thing to slot in his powers. Personally... I usually have at least a rough plan in mids so I could place bids 15 levels in advance so I have some chance of filling them... and there are times I have done exactly that.

Bottom line is, it's just not casual friendly. That pretty much describes redside. That right there is your population problem. Less casual high end content, less casual access to the market, less players... coincidence? I think not. WoW is the most casual friendly MMO ever created, and has the highest playerbase by a ridiculous margin.

Succeeding at the market redside is not tough, it simply is not enjoyable, or possible on a time window comparable to blue.

We're just going to have to accept that we want different things from the game.

EDIT: Just wanted to add, my villains are comfortable as long as I'm not trying to buy purple sets or anything, and that is resting on the inf I made previously. I hadn't played since back around the time issue 12 was announced. So issue 11 was what... 2 years ago? There's been considerable inflation since then and I'm still comfortable for casual play without having to really think about inf. Like I said, it's not tough to make inf on the market, just boring.

Originally Posted by gec72

I've somewhat come to grips with the "grittiness" of CoV, but I still wonder why in the heck they make it so hard to get around zones for non-flyers.

Originally Posted by Smash_Zone

I think the "better content" he's referring too is actual stories. sure there are fewer, but in the early stages of blueside content, it all just seems like radio missions to me.

"Hey, the hellions stole this thing, could you get it back?"
"Dude, the council are totally recruiting in Steel Canyon, go and defeat some of them."
"Look, I know the Vahzilok in Steel Canyon are level 16, and you're level 10, but I really need you to go defeat some of them. They HAVE to be in Steel Canyon."
"The Clockwork aren't doing anything bad, but I need you to beat up about 10 of them, okay?"
"The Skulls are minding their own business in some warehouse, go and beat them up!"

Sheesh, I absolutely hate early blueside. At least there are coherent stories redside, even if there aren't as many,

Originally Posted by _Sixy_

What was that again? I can't hear your attempts at rational posts through your spazzing.