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Actually, he was saying that you must play those characters in one style. A particularly unheroic style, actually because at one point the developers decided that only melee archetypes 'should' get mezz protection of any sort.

Again, I'll reiterate---

I am not advocating removing mezz from the game. I am advocating lessening its affect on on players so that it does not affect them as greatly.

If I wanted to say 'please remove mezzing from the game' I would say that.

What I'm really saying is that 'squishies' should only be getting mezzed less. Perhaps only one-quarter of the time. Definitely less than one-third.

The simplest way to do that is to give them minor mezz protection now that PvP balance is no longer an issue.

Or perhaps +300% mezz resistance (that would reduce all mezzing down to 1/4 of the time by default.)

Dying because I didn't go out and buy a whole tray of breakfrees to do my mission on herioc is (and you can quote me on this) "Not fun".

You are saying 'you are playing it wrong.' You are just trying to veil the call for that in a polite, fictitious mask instead of 'go back to your corner, stupid defender, don't you dare try to complain about things that annoy you.'

'You aren't supposed to play in a non-annoying way. STHU and 'learn to play, n00b.'

Total BS. Annoying things like this that exist just to annoy players is just 100% wrong, IMO.

Ah, a chime from the 'you are trying to remove mezzing' which I never stated. I've been advocating lowering it to a much less annoying amount.

Short term click buffs suck. I get yelled at constantly that I'm not speed boosting people. I'd trade recharge enhancements on those powers for duration increasers in a heart-beat just so I'd be clicking less often. But the developers only feel that mezzing should get that bonus.

Though I wonder how hard a 'buff duration increase' enhancement would be to code?

I play (almost exclusively these days) scrappers and brutes because they don't get mezzed often.

Why play a game (or even have part of a game) that is just annoying?

Actually, if a archetype is under-perfoming consistently (of which I feel this problem of high level mezzing across a great many of the mobs is), that indicates a problem with archetype, not the NPCs.

(I get the feeling the long duration stuns were supposed to be so they could stack on tankers and scrappers, possibly stunning them at times. But unfortunately, it hurts the squishies worse.)

I've played quite a few ATs into those higher levels. Mezzing does affect you, even on teams. Maybe you aren't dying, but you probably aren't helping as the scrappers, brutes and tankers are keeping everyone's attention on themselves.

But you are starting to get to that 'superfluous' point. If I'm not helping because I'm mezzed, what use to a team am I?

Actually, I detest powers like Clear Mind and Increase Density. And I've got a Kinetic. They are obnoxious to apply continually (and /not/ expected to be continually applied.)

Yet there are times such a power has to be applied lavishly so that you don't continually wipe out. So you spend a lot of your time apply a short-term buff to keep people from being mezzed.

Forcefield bubbles aren't expansive enough (a fight can easily spread out a bit too much.)

I'm sorry, the 'you are making powers useless card' does not fly in real experience.

(And I find it very, very funny that you are comparing +2 or +3 mezz protection against a power that can stack to over +50 mezz protection that *tanks* do not get. I call shenanigans.)

Mezz resistance, as implemented in Set IOs is effectively almost useless. Because of the way Resistance works in this case (1/1+X=Mezz duration) having 100% mezz resistance is only worth 50% reduction. 200% mezz resistance only drops mezz durations to 33%.

At 3% to 5% mezz resistance from IOs... and you aren't doing anything that really makes a freaking difference.

In my own opinion, it isn't. It's just balanced to the point that 'melee' characters can function as their semi-designed function of agro-magnets.

For a scrapper, a +2 or +3 boss is usually just 'doing normal' while against a blaster, that is probably death... all because he can't actually attack with most of his powers.

That's why I hate toggle suppression as currently implemented. You take your character who can't respond and suppress all of his good resistances and defenses. Even on a tank, that hurts.

For a squishy that has lower hitpoints and suddenly can't A) attack B) run away and C) is now taking an extreme extra amount of damage it's not a good design decision.

Toggle suppression should have just been changed so that you were held but your non-offensive toggles stayed up and your offensive toggles were suppressed.

Actually, if you think about it, giving at least 3-4 points of mezz protection would do exactly what you were talking about in the current mechanics, without rewriting every NPC faction.

It's probably more accurate that the Corruptor is doing 500pts of damage to the Brutes 800pts... but is mezzed 25% of the time so is actually only doing 375pts.

Talk about underperforming.

Mezz have two things that really make them bad. Magnitude and Duration.

For the squishies, Mag basically doesn't make a bit of difference. But duration is a freaking killer. Malta have 20 second stuns on their bosses at like Mag 3.

For a non-squishy, they are totally a non-threat. Barely even gets into their protection. For your squishy, that's 20 seconds that you are likely to die in. And 20 seconds you are not contributing to your team.

But... you eventually find out that Synapse and Anti-Matter's robots... aren't clockwork...

All those missions going to fight clockwork in other dimensions was a red-herring.

See, this is why I think everyone show now have a little bit of Mezz Protection. So that you don't have annoying 'lose control of you PC and die' fights against many high level mobs.

Did you guys actually look at the number or did your eyes just glaze over at the title?

+2 Mag protection won't break the game. Far from it. It would just get rid of the minion and lieutenants one-mezzing you.

Is it challenging or annoying? Why shouldn't I be able to play a bit more 'gung ho' as a defender who is normally has to play like I'm terrified of anything boss-like with mezzing?

Ah, the 'you can work around problems in ATs with inspirations.'

Look how well that worked for scrappers and tanks when they had ridiculous armor toggle costs.

Bill, please stop propagating this lie. Dwarf Form is not Kheldian Mezz protection. It turns off all non-dwarf powers.

Kheldian mezz protection is in the passive Cosmic Balance/Dark Sustenance and is *STILL* broken.

Is this the same timing issue that allows Rikti to teleport into a Black Market and get a shot off during the Rikti Invasion Events?

The timing seems to be that any critter can instantly get off at least one power... even when shot from behind.

I've even seen critters get held and an attack gets off. A really annoying extension of the 'super-summon' that several critters can do where they will summon their pets just about 100% of the time.

I'd say that's more of the fact that Kheldians in some way are not as fun to play. I know I have a hard time playing my Peacebringers any more after playing several brutes and SoA's with Mezz Protection.

Gah.

I'd like to be able to tell the teams Warshade and Peacebringer from the Nictus that are our there. Especially on Imperious TFs.

It was to keep people from getting 'under' the world as an exploit.

Hmm. That's a point. Didn't hear if there was another invite at all.

Weird.

Your facts don't line up with reality. Now if Unyielding turned off all but 3 weak attacks and most of your other defenses and all power pools... you'd be closer.

Yes, powers *can* have draw-backs, but saying 'Dwarf is Kheldian's mezz-protection' flies in the face of Cosmic Balance and Dark Sustenance.