Frosticus

the path of the tru warrier is not to be taken lightly.

You aren't making a lot of sense. The game is designed around teaming. AS'ing is currently very easy in a team scenario. If you return it to 6x critical and combine that with how easy the attack is to use in a team nothing good would result from it.

The idea is to benefit from teammates not automatically win. There isn't an AT in the game that couldn't set up the target for an ez AS.

I really don't give a sh*t about solo performance tbh

I think returning it to 6x was a nostalgia comment and not made in seriousness. If you honestly think that would be good for the environment then give your head a shake.

For pve I'd take the fire/psi for almost anything. If you want to play /fire I like it with earth (so much so I have a perma earth/fire at 50), plant, and fire control sets.

Mind/fire is great in pve if you are seeking very high st damage, but fire has a heap of aoe damage too, but mind just isn't the best choice for making the aoe shine (imo).

I'd do fire/fire myself, and aim for high recharge. High uptime on FE puts fire and /fiery head and shoulders above anything else. Not sure if you ever need more control than a perma firedom brings when paired with that kind of damage.

Is this a new sentiment for you? just curious cause I don't personally put a lot of stock even with what the box says since CoV...

Damage reflection of some kind in the game would be awesome.

Your comparing things that aren't possible in the game. Which means you are pretending. If you want to pretend a new set coming out will have AAO and a damage aura then fine, but it will probably be the lower base damage auras rather than blazing aura. And SC will still be better than it.

In the mean time I've shown that SC is numerically better with or without AAO than the best damage aura available to scrappers. Really there is nothing to debate on that other than arguing that burst aoe is not of greater value than aoe dot, or that a larger aoe is not better than a smaller one. You're welcome to pursue that if you want, you are good at pretending.

SC makes damage auras look bad numerically and in actual game play. Period. Shields as a whole makes the other +offensive armor set look horrible with just SO's (strictly speaking of the +offense aspect) and in the meta game of IO's it stomps all over other offensive options even giving things like Blaster Archery a run for its money.

If you want to disregard what actually happens in the game then be my guest as you've made it abundantly clear that is your intention. You started out making claims that simply aren't true and I showed that to which you've done nothing but say I should use my imagination and pretend AAO either doesn't exist or exists for damage auras too. I pretended it doesn't exist and you still aren't satisfied. I'll make you a deal, I'll add in AAO to a damage aura, but I'm adding FE to SC too and giving it a 500% cap. Hey were doing hypothetical things that aren't possible in game so why not right?

Anyway, no one is trying to get SC nerfed so you can pull your head out of the sand now. It's safe to accept reality (or ingame reality at any rate).

Oh you are tearing open old wounds pets no longer inherent any recharge, but no afaik buffs have always expired on them when the caster buff falls off (by always I mean since they have inherented caster states).

I know old Lightning storm which used to inherent everything used to slow down when hasten dropped (or you were hit with -rech) and it used to hit harder while aim or other +dam buffs were up and hit less hard when they expired.

Burn definitely drops off with your buffs, just use it when rage crashes

I get your point, but lots of things listed in this thread are redundant. I mention End Game because I'm stressing the importance of it. The population is aging, leveling is on avg faster than ever and there has been a pretty large shift in support for people that don't want to play the reroll game anymore.

What I'd personally like added to the list of meaningful and engaging end game content is world activities. Random disasters, better and much more varied invasions. Where's the arachnos invasion when they overrun Siren's Call, or Recluses Victory that spills out into Steel canyon or where ever?

I can go on and on, but in short most of what I'd like are things that bring life back into the "world" aspect of the game that they have all but killed off entirely. I want to see lots of heroes/villains engaged in something that is bigger than one individual instance such as the STF.

I want a warning to pop up that villains are kicking butt in SC and that arachnos are about to spill out of the zone if you don't do anything about it. When they spill out of the zone I want a bunch of destructible objects and hero npcs fodder to spawn that the arachnos crush. And then I want a warning to pop up saying that if you don't go kick arachnos *** they are going to "do x" that will weaken all heroes. If you fail to act and arachnos wastes SC then all heroes regardless of zone are hit with a minor-ish debuff (like -5% def, some -speed/recovery, etc).

I realize not many would jump on board with such ideas right away as it disturbs the "easy street" set up we have, but I'd like it.




Definitely, I think it is safe to say that 90% of heroes occupy ~5 zones and that the other ~25 you are more likely to encounter a tumble weed than another hero. While they are pretty and neat to visit now and again when so few people get any use out of them all they are is bullet points on a feature list rather than something that actually matters.

I disagree very much. Just like in rl texting them isn't the same as seeing them. But this is just a difference of opinion so meh.

I'm sort of against new zones, yes I'm looking forward to the ones that GR brings, but it is mixed emotions for me. One one hand we have dozens of zones that are little more than empty space. I'd much prefer less quantity and far more quality.

Look at it another way. I'd rather they spend time improving the content we see 97% of our playtime than a Boomtown revamp. What I'm saying is I'd much rather the artists and level creators flex their muscles and work on the instanced maps that exist and will be introduced in GR. I think we are beyond needed reskinned maps and need actual new maps which means overwriting a bunch of existing ones.

Well with the slotting you gave it does ~154 dps so if you happen to do more than that with your attack chain then it will be subtracting from your output. Though worth mentioning is that it has extremely good damage per endurance and is pure fire damage, which may be worth factoring into your scenario as your primary is smash/nrg.

FE certainly helps it because FE boost fire damage by 125% for 20 seconds and all other damage by 100% for 10 seconds, so with FE up burn will be doing 247.5 dps, which you'd need to see if your dps generated from your attacks while FE is up is higher or lower than to determine if burn would be worthwhile casting during the first 10 seconds.

During the second half it will likely be much better than your normal attacks because FE will no longer be boosting them, but will still be affecting burn.

Unfortunately this kind of examination goes a bit deeper than just looking at avg dps because you are having to make critical decisions during short buff windows about what benefits your output most.

It's kind of neat when you get right down to it. I remember looking at one version of sonic/cold I made for a corruptor and casting aim was actually causing a decrease in my sustained dps vs hard targets because it was taking away from the -res stacking and proc occurrences only to add a relatively small damage buff. Not really relevant to you of course, but it was neat.

Oh ya the generator led me to believe it would be very visable, but in game the outlines were quite faded and the transparency was higher as well.

I definitely agree that the worst powers in the game are reserved for a select few like such as poison-PT and MM serum, but I also happen to put an 8 sec interpretable snipe in that category ymmv

I wasn't intending to contradict what you posted and that's why I edited as it came across like I was. I was just expanding on what was happening because it could potentially be misleading. ie burn does 150 dps and burn lasts for 10 seconds so does 1500 damage... but that isn't the case.

I of course used the correct arcanatime as well, that is standard these days. All I actually did was help show at what point burn would become beneficial rather than just a yes/no state.

I understood what he was saying from the start. It is just irrelevant like I already said. It can be fun to pretend, but beyond that serves little purpose.

Besides I more than covered what a damage aura would do with AAO in the example where I used a claws/Fa with double follow up and FE(over time), which is more damage than saturated AAO would offer. I'm unsure what other scenarios he wants because SC is better without AAO, with AAO, and every iteration between. That doesn't make SC evil or in need of a nerf, but it does make FA look pretty bad and I happen to really like FA and have been of the conviction (along with many others) that FA needs more. Meanwhile the idea that FA would be too strong with more offense was used as a deterent, but I think that falls to pieces in light of what Shields brings to the table.

thanks for the info BaB's. I could have used you a couple weeks ago in a heated spines discussion on the scrapper boards.

Wormhole used is a specific way can clump. outside of having a corner to push them into it does anything but clump. And while I didn't intend it that would actually be covered by the term "corner stacking" heh cause that is exactly what you are doing.

I've mentioned in other threads that /earth is fun for the exact reasons you state and also mentioned that if you can overlook numbers it can be a very satisfying experience. I also mentioned in this very thread that the 3 melee attacks are great*. However, it would be more fun if the aoes were bigger and in the case of fissure matched the expectation formed from the existing power available to trollers. Then it could be fun in a tactile sense and a numeric sense and please a larger group of players.

*Stating the st damage is awesome is very misleading. The recharge needed for that to be true is beyond what most people ever experience on a consistent basis. The burst st damage is pretty decent though.


I apologize if I'm down about /earth, I had very very high hopes for the set. Not unrealistically high, but I was hoping for the equivalent of shields, wp, pain, or dual blades (relative to other sets) awesome that they have done with new sets. I'm unsure why earth turned out the way it did.