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If both seekers hit you get (7.2*2*.15 = 2.16 effective def) so if you swapped 4 pieces of Basiliks into PT you'd be softcapped to s/l/eng/ranged on the first build. A bit risky, but it's there.

My end usually doesn't move until they hit 50% and I go into more aggressive mode spamming rain of fire, making sure I only put out a PT every ~37 sec and forgoing seekers for the most part. Basically when I see the first tick of scourge I shift gears. Even so, pounding through godmodes and stuff like that is fine, the only time I have end issues is against sappers like Scirocco, Magus Mu Dakhan, Synapse, Neuron and such. Even then it has been manageable, just worrisome. Neuron tanked my end bar a couple times near the end, but it wasn't a huge issue. I have 3.58 eps recovery and use 0.51 for shields.

I use blaze>blast>flares>blast once and then blaze>blast>flares>webnade next. You don't get a lot of uniteruptted dps streaming chances though outside of easier AV's. When it is time to lay the traps out again I often put out a rain of fire so that I'm still doing some damage and I usually toss a blaze between each one. Probably not a huge gain for it, but makes me feel useful cause PT, mortar, and triage all take a long time to put down.

Some form of healing is necessary. If you drop triage you are going to need aidself. Not only will you die much more often w/o Triage, your summons will too. While something like my fire/storm troller was able to kill a handful of AV's with no healing it did so because it sat at 80ft the whole time and only faced the weakest ranged attacks. You need to be prepared to eat a lot more damage on a trapper

I like your second build better. It looks like it will get stuck at about the same spot I am. AV's with confuse (or at least long duration confuse, as Lilitu wasn't an issue) will tear you apart. Non-positional psi attacks for the most part aren't an issue because they are so weak, but a spawn of rikti can be trouble cause the mesmerist will suppress your def which the others will be more than happy to take advantage of.

And AV's with fireball+firebreath will rock you as fire/aoe def is low. Those AV's (like Arch A, Envoy, Baphoment, The dragon, Infernal) usually have decent fire res too so you can't really soften their attacks up much. So they can be a handful. In the case of The Dragon, when he hits FE he can pretty much one shot you with consume, let alone any of his actual attacks lol. I'd be impressed with a Dragon take down even with insp on a fire/trapper

If you add inspirations to the mix then most problems will disappear.

Yes provoke will keep them standing right next to you through RoF. The problem is it only hits 5, but if you tag the boss(es) of the spawn with it the minions will usually be dead before they can get out from under it anyway.

It is not difficult to softcap everything on a traps with the exception of psi. However it is worthwhile to softcap psi too to cover that weakness.

You might want to overbuff s/l to protect against guns/swords debuffing you and if you are hanging around in AE you'll need tactics for the confuse protection or you will get wasted by any of the very common custom mobs that use confuse powers.

If you drop the pet from the build I posted in this thread for firebreath it could do all three tasks. I plow through +1/8 pretty easily though without FB and was working the wall faster than the shield brute I was near the other day in Cim. When I had FB up to +3's were pretty much toast from the aoe onslaught.

It is pretty fun setting a mish for x8 and making good time through it all and then dropping the AV at the end like they are a speed bump and nothing more.

They were both jerks to face, but Posi's overload doesn't give extra status protection and it is typed def so webnade was still rolling 95% against him. So in the times I've taken him down now it just extends the fight, but doesn't make him any more difficult really.

Getting hit more often by Anti-Matter was more of a threat for me. That and the fact that FFGen moves so slowly so when I'd hightailing to outrange RI it would leave me unprotected for much of it.

For me being hit more often meant more time hiding from his line of sight which ended up with him escaping my immobs more often and losing his attention so that he worked over my summons more than Posi did. They are both annoying enough where I wanted to hit some of those huge def and red insp sitting in my tray and just tank and spank them heh.

Now Statesman on the other hand is presenting issues and I sort of wish I had aidself as he is just overwhelming me when he goes into blitz mode. I might try just letting him spaz out while unstoppable is up while I sit up on a big crate webnadding him only jumping down to put out another PT. We'll see.

I've thought a lot about illusion on doms and trollers.

Trollers: like you say it has no readily available aoe containment. In a troller world dominated by contained damage this is a pretty major drawback. And yet Ill controllers get by just fine.

PA under high recharge is pretty amazing and is a large part of the draw to such combos as ill/rad and ill/kin. However, PA does not benefit from external buffing so the only way to improve them is via enemy debuffing. Controllers with res debuffing make PA very impressive because of the heal back mechanic of their attacks. Basically once you fully damage slot PA it has a 35% heal back ratio that you can only improve through resistance debuffing. Something like an ill/cold can make the heal back as small as 17% of the damage they put out. Amazing stuff really.

Dominators: won't have many powers that are boosted by the +mag+duration of domination. In fact they'll have 1 less than sets like earth and fire. This could be seen as a setback, but we know Castle reworked doms specifically to rely less on domination than before. I'm of the mind set that illusion is not a weak control set, but rather a weak "lock down" set. Complete lockdown is irrelevant to doms.

Regarding PA and dominators: it is of little doubt that it would be a very strong combo. While active it would allow a dominator to focus almost entirely on damage output. Pretty big advantage. That said, it is significantly more difficult for a dom to reach perma PA than it is for a troller. Not impossible, but much more difficult. Additionally doms have no way of making PA more effective while they are out like trollers do, with the exception of a single target debuff in one patron choice.

I think it goes without saying that anyone who truly believes illusion would be overpowered on a dominator is by default saying it is even moreso on a controller as they can leverage the strengths of the set better than doms.

Conversely, people with concerns that it would be too weak due to little benefit gained through domination need to look up the status on spec terror.

They have a 70ft cast range, but a ~300ft leash range. Actually I'm not sure on the leash range, but it is quite long.

This is more an indication that the aggro auras need to be more distinct when moving from tank to brute to scrapper

Perception is a funny matter. It's there even if you haven't personally noticed it.

The psi attacks that cut through FF bubbles are the psi controls like dominate, mesmerize, mass hypnosis. The pink psi attacks like subdue, willdom, mental blast are covered by ranged def.

Most tanks have no psi resistance, or very little. They are just hp at that point. Vs full mobs they will last about twice as long as a squishy if they don't heal.

Carny AV's rip through people because they are AV's and AV's deal upwards of 1k damage per hit. Few sets have Psi resistance. While they all deal a small portion of non-psi damage the majority is psi. You simply stated that they deal pure psi which is not true. Two of the three Carny AV's have a mask of x power that drastically reduces defense. I believe they check ranged/neg eng, but if they hit you are basically toast and they will hit if your bubbler said "meh they do psi damage, deal with it".

People die vs the Clockwork King (and Babbage) because they will open with their psi nuke and people have a tendency to rush AV's. Thank goodness for the one shot code basically.

Unless you have a seamless chain of aoe attacks you stand to benefit from SB. When everything but the tough single targets are left, unless you have the best dps st chain already achieved you stand to benefit from SB.

Unless you have a person already at the next spawn activating summon team, you stand to benefit from SB getting you there faster.

All of the minion/lut/boss spawned in association with Mother Mayhem and Malaise have at least tk blast as does Mother.

The Praetorian version of Malaise is pure psi, but then again he's a pushover with just dominate and mesmerize for damage. The Vindicator version (the one that summons stuff) isn't and has a couple negative energy attacks.

Anyway, my point, not that it matters, is that pure psi is very very rare. Just like the situations where SB is of no benefit.

Yes please go on, you haven't listed one yet that does pure psi damage.

Kalinda - Telekinetic Blast
Fortunata - Telekinietic Blast
Psi Clockwork - all have brawl
Babbage - Telekinetic Blast
Ring Mistress - Telekinetic Blast
The three Carny AV's - telekinetic Blast

tk blast is ~50% smash damage and is spammed a lot as it is fast recharging.

I think the only one might be Master Illusionist, but even they spawn Dark Servant, which while low damage does negative energy.

Casting thermal shields may be of dubious value in those situations, but going out of your way to find situations that a buff provides little to no benefit is kind of silly now isn't it? You are far better off using thaw in psy heavy encounters for the mez protection and the high resistance to slow/-rech (80%!), but at the same time there are encounters where no mez or -rech is present, but that doesn't detract from thaw being a solid and worthwhile power.

That said, there is almost no scenario where SB fails to provide numerical benefit. Rad superteams... that's about it.

Is there a single encounter in the game that does pure psi damage?

What do you want me to say? I'm sorry you feel bad. You recounted a story that had nothing to do with kinetics because you could sub in pretty much any power in the game into your story and have the same outcome. Watch:

Last time I had seeds of confusion, I got overconfident with the control and wiped the team
Last time I had Fortitude cast on me, I got overconfident with the DDR-less defense and wiped the team
Last time I had Drain Psyche, I got overconfident with the regeneration and recovery and wiped the team
Last time I had nova, I got overconfident with the damage and died, everyone on the team laughed at me.

Player error is player error, if you want you can have a participation ribbon if you feel it is necessary, but we aren't kids anymore so I'm not sure what to say if you feel that it is. If you'd said your system couldn't handle the speed and you lagged out into the next spawn and died, then you'd have a point. However, just saying you misjudged the situation and died is in no way, shape, or form, a problem stemming from speedboost.

I'm not going to say this is useless because such activities aren't, but even if you had a million people say the exact same thing and pledge to subscribe forever because of it, there is little to no chance it could be implemented in less than a year.

They already have their production schedule planned out for at least the next year and if they don't then shame on them. Small changes might happen that aren't planned, but by and large w/e they have in store is more than written in pencil.

So unless all these people being surveyed all agree that the ability to switch sides, power up via the incarnate system, play a few new sets and enjoy another round of proliferation then I'm afraid they aren't going to see what they want to see any time soon

Give FW a 3ft aoe so that if you snuggle up to someone you can get the buff too!

You can't cast holds, fulcrum, transference, or any other power you are talking about as a kin while between spawns. That's when a well played kin will use that 7% of their time. Time that is typically spent doing nothing on a kin other than getting to the next spawn, which you are helping everyone do faster. It's an appropriate step to increasing the efficiency of the team and in every sense of the word, makes you a team player.

Don't mistake what I'm saying though. Being a good team player doesn't require SB, but if you use SB it will invariably make you a better team player.

You could be the best team playing kin in the game and if you added in SB to your repertoire you'd be better.
You being a bad player doesn't make the kin that was being a good team player somehow worse in their role. j/k, but not really, as your example has absolutely nothing to do with what is being discussed.

You don't have to take SB. No one is holding a gun to your head. However, Kinetics is the premier forcemultiplication set and it primarily accomplishes that feat through the use of two powers - Fulcrum and SB. You can choose to eliminate either one and most teams will still accomplish their goals. You'll just be adding less to the team than someone that plays kin to its full forcemultiplication potential. Ergo, less of a team player.

Like most powers that multiply force, the more force you are multiplying the more priority that power should receive. And SB is probably a top 5 forcemultiplying power in the entire game.

Some people think it is fun teaming in a team based game. Part of playing in a team is playing as a team.

In my area they run these ads about the importance of enrolling kids in team based sports because of the skills and valuable lessons they learn. Not everyone learns those lessons in life as evidenced by people that play on a team like they are solo'ing near 7 other people

edit: faceless rep said "Playing as a team doesn't require SB. Team based sports should also create mutual respect. Which you obviously missed."
Don't recall saying SB was required once. Not once. It's ok if you can't understand what you are reading. Just don't respond. The rest of what you anonymously said suggests you simply have no idea what you are talking about. I can see why you'd do it anonymously.

Hmm I have a reworked version of the build I was talking about in this post that swaps in manuevers and tactics at the loss of cj+aim. Not an ideal swap, but the confuse protection would be just dandy. Might rebuild from the ground up to include tactics as confuse is a major weakness for this toon. Thankfully it is very rare in the game, but that is beside the point. Hopefully it will be utilized a lot more in GR as I've never laughed harder than when getting confused on my EM brute by a succubus and one shotting a stalker beside me haha.

I felt kind of cheap taking down Regent Korol cause she was tearing me up with confuse, but I switched up and if I kept her in melee she would only use her claw attacks. Suppose it is not all that different than immob'ing them to prevent being 1 shot by their melee attacks like the normal tactic is... just felt odd.