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I didn't think you were crying doom, I just don't think merging the servers will accomplish anything positive. The solution lies in improving/expanding the game and advertising to attract new players. Downsizing always sends the wrong message to the consumers.

I explained how I define it in post #507.

And that is especially fun when a new issue is released, and the login queue Freedom has to deal with when the server gets grayed out.

I believe it's less difficult. Whenever someone asks about which server has the most population on the forums, they get several helpful responses about the population, server personalities, and where they can go on the forums to meet people from whichever server they eventually decide on. You can't get that kind of fantastic response from the server selection page.

Ah completely dismissing anything anyone on a low pop server might say, and insulting the ones that speak up. Yeah that'll win people over to your point of view.

You are the one getting defensive, so if anyone feels threatened it's you.

While I'm flattered that you seem to think that people on Virtue hold me in such high regard that they wait with baited breath for my opinion of any given new player, I fear I must burst your bubble. I'd say 99% of the population (plus or minus 1%) never knows I'm online let alone who I am.

No one has said that the population hasn't declined. That is the nature of all online games. Memberships fall and rise constantly for various reasons. You used the term declining which implies a constant loss. I used the term healthy which acknowledges that the population may currently be lower but I believe it's just the normal rise and fall for a 6 year old game that has paid off all it's outstanding debts and is still generating a decent profit.

I only know what you've posted, and you yourself said that the reason you find yourself standing at a place like the trainer for any length of time is when you are deciding what powers/build to choose.

I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe that it took you hours to choose 3 powers and assign 8 slots. Now I can believe it may have subjectively felt like hours, but that's different.

I find it funny that you accuse me of rushing to judgment while you are eager to do the same about the methods I use to make my decisions and that it happens with some regular frequency.

You also seem to be determined to overlook that when you check Info and notes you pull up things like bios, badges, global names. All of which can be used to determine if an account is an RMTer. It must be, in your own words, because you are emotionally involved and can't use logical reasoning.

RMTer's use free trials to gather info and send spam. They won't write bio's unless it's an advertisement for their website. They won't have account level badges like Destined One, V.I.P., or the Pocket D VIP Gold Club Member Accolade. Their globals are usually gibberish, sometimes something chinese, or some creative spelling variation of their website like Ga(you know who) dot com.

Again you are assuming that I have far more influence on other players than is in fact true. Whether or not I ignore someone has little effect on their game play.

I'm also quiet and polite in the game, and for some reason I can't fathom some people think I'm funny.

I see this must be explained to you again so I'll type it very slowly. The only people that get shunned by an entire community are the people that act like rude, obnoxious, jacktards.

The question wasn't valid. First, you used the term "several" Several means more than two or three but not many. It would take far more than a handfull of people ignoring someone to detrimentally affect their ability to find teams even on a low pop server. Second, you assumed my server was a low pop server.

Here was your original question in it's entirety.

Okay, I'm imagining this new player is being ignored by myself and several other longtimers on Virtue. It would still be fairly easy for them to find a team on my server even if they were being ignored. And since the only other server with a higher population is Freedom I do believe that they are far more likely to have an unpleasant experience on Freedom than they would on Virtue.

Oh how cute, a troll making his first post. Now where did I put that ignore list?

Oh I can see the black market now as the players good at puzzle solving sell slots on their teams so people can get the rewards without actually doing anything to earn them.

Not only no but, #&@* NO!!!

I disagree. It is far more likely that the people that want to be social will seek out the forums as one of the tools to meet other players.


No it isn't. It's speculative at best. We don't have access to the proper information.


You don't get to tell other people how they feel.


Who said you did?



They get treated the same as everyone else. I shun everyone without prejudice. I simply use Notes to justify it, or to explain why they are the rare shining exceptions.

Ah. There's the difference. You believe the population is declining and I believe the population is healthy.

No, you didn't.

And with that statement you prove that you don't stand silently in one spot for 2 hours not doing anything. You had to move in order to level up. You can't get access to new powers unless you go around and earn experience. While you may choose to disagree, there is a huge difference between seeing a character in the same spot for two hours and is still level 1 and seeing a character in the same spot who was level 1 and then is level 3 then later still is level 5.


As I just explained above you have never been in any danger of being labeled in a certain way because you actually level your characters. RMTers that are standing around gathering names don't.

This is another topic where we disagree. I believe tightly knit communities are friendlier and more willing to show new people the ropes. Only people being rude and acting like jerks have to be concerned with offending everyone.

Fairly easy.

Ah. You are assuming my preferred server is low pop. I play mainly on Virtue, but I have characters on every server.

In my experience in those situations people are more likely to form an "us vs them" mentality. And if one of the pairing is accepted into a larger group and doesn't bring the other along, the one remaining can grow bitter and more antisocial.

My old gaming group used to see this happen all the time at the local game store between the groups of teens. There were the ones the were pure computer gamers, there were the CCG players, the role-players, The DDR players, and the War Hammer players.

Our gang, consisting mostly of military vets, went out of our way to keep the outcasts interested in gaming by inviting them into our games. The size of our group ebbed and flowed with the shifting tide of teen popularity but the kids new there was always an open spot where they were welcome.

Is your account worth keeping? Cuz I guarantee you that the the company is making more money off the people playing on the low pop servers than they are off of you.

In my opinion that's what the forums are for. The problem is that a lot of people want to jump in and start playing as soon as possible rather than take the time to read the manual, do the tutorial, etc.

And I know that some people will try to argue that new players don't know about the forums, but I feel that's being insulting to them. Very few are MMO virgins, most are vets of other games, and even the ones that are completely new are probably more game savvy than I am after 6 years of playing MMO's.



It's always going to be a problem. However I think the bigger problem is that new players aren't used to how heavily instanced this game is. They expect it to be like most other MMO's where everyone has to stand around a spawn point and wait their turn to whack a target.



If a person can't appreciate irony, they should stay away from the internet.



But your side of the discussion is claiming those servers are empty. If they were truly empty where are all those people that defend their particular servers coming from? One would think that if the servers were truly empty the number of people complaining would outnumber the defenders, yet in 6 years that has never been the case.


Not trying to bash Billz numbers but they don't show anything of the sort. All they show is what he found using search the last time he was on Pinnacle at that specific moment. You can't draw any remotely accurate conclusions from a single use of the search feature.



I think I backhandedly implied that. (It was intended to be implied)

the jerks tend to gravitate to the heavily populated servers just because they can blend in with the crowds easier.

But I did admit that they have a lot of good players.



On this we disagree. But that's not a big deal it's just a difference in opinions.



You're darn right I did, but you are forgetting that I don't make that decision on the spur of the moment. I also said that I take the time to use the star/notes feature so I can keep track of them and if I see I made the occasional mistake I can correct it and take them off ignore.



Easier. New players do not camp silently at zone entrance spawn points, next to trainers, etc for hours at a time.

I sincerely hope that whatever the problem is it doesn't take long to rectify. Best of luck.

The devs can't force people to play a faction that they don't want to. They tried to entice PvE players into PvP zones by placing badges, missions, and valuable rewards in those zones and it failed miserably. Most players refuse to set foot in those zones.

The only thing that drew a lot of players redside were the AT's and with Going Rogue you will see a temporary increase in population redside as players redeem their characters to become heroes.



Upgrading the servers does not stop people from being lazy and only clicking on the top server.



And yet each time someone makes a claim like that, players come out of the woodwork from the server being slandered and refute the claim that no one is on those servers.



You can claim that you haven't experienced any rude behavior. It may be true but it's more likely that you are just saying that because you think it will help your side of the discussion. The sheer number of posts to the contrary over the years have shown that that server has earned it's notorious reputation.

Now in that server's defense they do have a large number of decent players but people tend to remember and complain about the bad experiences. That's human nature.

Also the jerks tend to gravitate to the heavily populated servers just because they can blend in with the crowds easier. When they are on the low pop servers they tend to stand out and get /ignored and shunned by the smaller tight knit communities. The notes feature is a great tool in blacklisting the obnoxious players.

You can't as far as I know. When you buy them the codes are automatically applied to your account. They aren't like time cards. Why don't you give her the money and then she can buy the items.

I think PayPal has something where you could do that and she can use it.

The servers have only just started coming back up after the scheduled downtime.

While I personally think this is a very valid objection, I hate to say that I think that the devs created the Super Leader position so the GM's/CS could distance themselves from internal SG politics.

When they first announced the new rank they told us that the person with the red star is the defacto owner of the SG and pretty much has carte blanche.

And with this you just answered why red side has has a significantly lower population. Most people buy City of Heroes to create and play with Heroes.


In the beginning the servers were listed by population and they were forced to change it because people being lazy always selected the first server on the list and. This led to certain servers getting overpopulated and having stability issues.

Reversing the list funneled new players towards the less populated servers where they didn't have stability issues and the new players encountered fewer jerks which seem to gravitate to a certain server that shall remain nameless.

No we didn't.

Ah I see what you're talking about. Posi said something similar during an in game question and answer during the 5 year anniversary.

To be honest I wasn't thinking of anything on that grand a scale, more along the lines of will there be new things added or changed to go along with the new morality feature and things like that. Little changes instead of an entire zone revamp.

Sorry for the confusion.

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This information was posted back in February long before they knew the Gamestop/Razer promotion was going to happen.

Bill Z Bubba did an unofficial poll and found that about 33% of the people responding use /hide. One third of the player base is hardly a tiny tiny minority.




To the OP: Typically you'll find that the people that try to downplay the number of players that use the /hide feature are also the ones that like to cry "DOOM! The servers are empty!"

Aett gave you a brief summary but here's the official statement.

The Ocho

So the official answer is no, unless it's CoH related.

You apparantly don't because I notice that you deleted several definitions that the dictionary lists. Or did you do that because it blows your pathetic attempt to troll Catwhoorg out of the water?

sa·cred [sey-krid]

–adjective

1. devoted or dedicated to a deity or to some religious purpose; consecrated.

2. entitled to veneration or religious respect by association with divinity or divine things; holy.

3. pertaining to or connected with religion ( opposed to secular or profane): sacred music; sacred books.

4. reverently dedicated to some person, purpose, or object: a morning hour sacred to study.

5. regarded with reverence: the sacred memory of a dead hero.

6. secured against violation, infringement, etc., as by reverence or sense of right: sacred oaths; sacred rights.

7. properly immune from violence, interference, etc., as a person or office.

Dictionary.com

So yes by the complete definition of the word they can in fact be held sacred.