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Quote:That's why I named my source. I haven't verified his claim.Originally Posted by Lothic
I don't automatically disbelieve this. But if it were true then badge hunters would have been all over this by now.
And if it were true we'd be having people scream bloody murder over it if it was WAI. The idea that you could potentially be unable to earn three badges because you made a decision (maybe years ago) to use a respec or not would be amazingly uncool to say the least. Until I see/hear a bunch of other people verifying this I'm going to politely dismiss this as badging urban legend or at best a bug of some kind. -
Quote:So Natural only applies to things on Earth and outside the confines of this Universe? That doesn't make sense.Originally Posted by Anti_Proton
I wouldn't call it "Alien" origin, because it triggers the splitting of hairs as to what is or isn't "Alien". Lets call it "Cosmic" origin which better denotes of this universe, but not of this world. Kheldians fit the bill as a group and I would like to see more groups like this and with it more stories based on "Cosmic" origins.
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Quote:I know this is quoted out of order but I wanted to address later posts first.Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
You're a bit mistaken there on what constitutes "alive"-- sentience is NOT a prerequisite for "life"-- we have quite a few plant and animal forms that are considered alive, but lack any testable sentience, after all. If anything, something with an ongoing organic biological processes is a MUCH more common denominator than sentience-- but the operative definition of the term "alive" would still likely be more complex than that.
And we can legally kill many (most) living things --and do so-- all the time. There's quite a bit of precedence of our laws only applying to humans... and any effort to expand such laws would risk legal challenges and strong lobbying against. ( Broaden the definition too much and suddenly PETA will be trying to get a prosecutor to go after cattle slaughterhouses for murder, keep things adequately narrow and EVERY sentient would practically have to petition the courts for its own ruling)
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Quote:And you'd have god knows how many millions wrapped in their self righteous convictions of infallibility declaring the opposite. These are the same people that get bent out of shape over the term 'marriage' and how/if it applies to same sex couples. And we won't even bother bringing up the topic of cloning. So any chance of them supporting the idea that a machine is alive and has a soul is slim to none.Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
In most western religions, at least.
Other belief structures (Japanese Shinto is one, IIRC) attribute soul-like sacred power to inanimate objects.
Heck, even in the Christian faiths... should we ever encounter a truly compelling facsimile of self-awareness in an AI- one with no apparent flaw to tell it from ours, we'd probably have at least one faith leader* somewhere that would declare that this act of creation included the divine's "breath of life" applying a soul to it.
*the odds of this happening increases in direct correlation with the size of financial contribution the AI is capable of making. -
Quote:Even in your example that decision only applied to Data within the rules and regulations of Star Fleet. A quasi-military organization. Data was NOT granted constitutional rights by the Federation itself. As proof in that episode Data was willing to resign from Star Fleet in order to get away from the man that wanted to disassemble him. Outside of Star Fleet he was nothing more than a machine.Originally Posted by Flarstux
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Quote:Everyone and every concept fits into at least one of the 5 origins. Theres no need to duplicate them with different names.Originally Posted by BlackRhapsody
However, this is about giving those whom don't fit in those 5 a sixth option.
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The devs had valid reasons for installing it so I don't see them removing it.
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Quote:Bull. Machines have no constitutional rights nor is destroying them considered 'killing' them under the law.Originally Posted by srmalloy
If it has awareness, it's 'alive' under an operative definition of the term, whether or not it's organic, so 'killing' would still be appropriate.
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Quote:Originally Posted by QuiJon
I personally dont care for the whole idea of the stones, i would rather they have a crew that was compitent to begin with. I also dont want to see episodes all the time dealing with needing to find food or water, or eventually having no weapon resources etc. I like seeing conflicts like Young and Rush but i think Camilla's and chloe have run their course and i would like to see them get off the ship. I guess what i feel is like if they solve all the really "gilligan's island" kinda issues with the show then they can concentrate on writing a great show with real stories beyond how they fail to "get off the island" this week.
The Camille/Chloe/TJ thing can be solved with an airlock. They even have excuses for it. TJ's depressed and isn't talking about what happened to her baby. Chloe is mutating, and Camille is depressed that she'll never see her significant other again. Tho personally I'd love to see Camille use the stones and come back to find that the person she swapped with hopped in the sack with Sgt Greer. Even better is she returned to find herself in bed with Greer during the finish of the dirty deed. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie Man
At least, on Virtue, it is. Compared to the calls for other TFs, there is a constant stream of "Starting a Posi 1" or "Posi 2 lfm" in Virtue's global TF channels.
I like the revamped TFs, I've done them, but I don't see the attraction to do them... often.
Is there something I'm missing?
On Virtue Posi gives us cookies and pony rides. -
Let's see:
1. Yes, as long as the toggle that blocks SG invites isn't circumvented.
2. An emphatic no for the way you are describing it. Not to long ago the devs found out people were in coalitions were robbing other SG's blind because they could access their storage and get around the security locks the SG's had for their own members.
Besides we can now send ourselves whatever we want via email.
3. Sure why not.
4. Highly unlikely to ever happen. The devs have this thing called game balance they are always concerned about.
5. The devs have been doing this. It takes time.
6. No opinion on this one.
7. I want it too but as you found out they have valid reasons for not doing it.
8. Again highly unlikely this wil ever happen. the devs are dead set against hoarding. The fact that we went from being able to store 2500 salvage items in bases down to 30 speaks volumes.
9. We already can if we do it in a base or a mission.
10. I'm going to disagree with this one but only with this caveat. If they release another emote booster it needs to have 4 times the emotes for the same price. Otherwise the booster isn't worth buying.
11. No opinion on this at this time.
12. What?
13. Yes.
14. Yes.
15. No. At least not until we get Praetorian EATs. Then if additional EAT's get added it should be 3 at a time, 1 per each faction.
16. No opinion.
17. Not interested in this.
18. Yes to more content, but I don't care what level range it's at.
19. Isn't this a repeat of 16?
20. I think balance issues applies here.
21. No.
22. Why would you need to use Ouro to get exploration or kill badges?
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Quote:Originally Posted by BlackArachnia
I would hope the hero would play it safe. Defending the populace is very important, and just because you can dodge bullets or they bounce off your chest, does not mean the people around you are safe.
Over all Forbin, I agree with what you said. It adds nicely to what I said. Even still, I am not sure that a hero should be going for the kill against someone that is unknown unless there is no other choice. It reminds me of Spider-man vs Wolverine, and how Peter launched a back hand that killed Charlie because he thought it was Wolverine and was reacting on instinct. When a hero faces a new villain, it's not wise to go all out on the offensive until you have an idea as to what they can take.
The reason I brought up the unknown factor is because I'm not assuming that the hero is nigh invulnerable. It would be foolish for the hero to assume that the unknown weapon/power the villain has won't hurt him or anyone in the vicinity. It is better to err on the side of caution.
It's odd that we are having this discussion today of all days because I was just listening to the 5 o'clock news locally and they reported that a man was shot by police today after he attempted to rob a bank at knife point.
He didn't get any money because he was stupid (The most dangerous type of criminal). The important part is that when he left the bank the cops almost immediately had him surrounded and ended up shooting him twice when he refused to drop the knife and surrender. The thief wasn't killed.
This all happened on one of the cities busiest streets and the reporter said it was during the busiest time of day. -
Quote:She offered him beer?Originally Posted by Impish Kat
how else do you think she gets her husband on board with her scheme?
You can get guys to do almost anything if you tell them there will be free beer involved.
Woman - "Honey, would you come with me to a three day seminar discussing how women can effectively balance a career in corporate america and a healthy family life?"
Guy - "I'm sorry, but I don't think I can make it."
Woman - "They'll have free beer."
Guy - "If we can get there early we can get seats close to the bar." -
Quote:Originally Posted by QuiJon
Im not saying that you make every single aspect of the mission fixed. What i am saying is that they could have removed alot of the sidelined aspects to the show that we have already gotten tired of or they just feel the need to waste time on fixing.
For instance, Eli isnt really supose to be there, but i wouldnt want to see him leave. TJ though i think has run her course. We already know her and Young have a past and the whole losing the baby thing, frankly i think getting her off the show would have been a good idea.
We sit back and talk about things like the amount of resourced needed to support that many people, how the ammo will hold out, etc, how often they are going to have to fall back on the "Stones" as a means to get someone on destiny that isnt. The problem with the show now isnt IMO that they have the wrong people anymore, or how they deal. They dont make them deal. True interaction and relationships are only going to be able to be shown between so many people. The rest are just baggage. It will become tiresome after awhile to always have to have doctors coming on board via the stones, or xenobilologists etc. So this plot in this episode gave them the ability to not only cut down on some of that, but to give an opening that could have limited use to be able to fix things as they arise.
For instance lets imagine that SyFy leaves this show running for a while like SG1 and actor decide they wish to leave the show. Sure you can kill them off, leave them behind on a ship full of midget aliens to be resolved later. But first how many times can you do that. And second as they get a more solid footing of the purpose of each cast members character what do you do to replace them? Having this type of device open to them helps to possibly solve issues down the road without having to make your audience groan that yet again and again they have to bend rules and find ways around the series own self imposed limitations. Im saying they could have fixed a few issues now, and left themselves an out to use later if needed.
And exactly what personnel issues could they have fixed? Stargate Command can't send replacements or supplies to them. Or do you think the SGC is going to conveniently find a constant supply of uninhabited planets in the Milky Way that have a naquadria core that they can blow up each time they want to establish a wormhole to the Destiny.
Oh hey! Maybe the SGC can ask Galactic President Zaphod Beeblebrox if his buddies at Magrathea can build them a planet with a naquadria core.
So even if they get rid of the dead weight they'll still be forced to constantly rely on the stones, and instead of watching TJ and Chloe stumble thru poorly written stories we'll get to watch some of the other minor characters take their place and stumble thru the poorly written scripts. Maybe it'll be that guy and the cute redhead from the Lucien Alliance. He can take TJ's place and she can sleep with Lt. Loser. -
Quote:I always pictured him wearing a 'Members Only' jacket.Originally Posted by Lastjustice
Durakken is a 90s kid..totally Xtreme! (pictures Durakken with a trench coat on, shades and a massive oversized gun with his feet obscured from view.)
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Quote:Originally Posted by BlackArachnia
When a cop is in a situation where someone raises a gun to them, they are trained to shoot to kill. No questions asked. They can not take the chance that the perp is using blanks, or faking it. They have to protect their lives, and the lives of the people around them. Thus, a deputized hero would face a similiar conundrum.
Where the difference lies is in the statement "When under duress of life." A hero may be able to take more than a cop. If said villain can dish it out, then I understand taking the life, but if Stiltman went up against Ironman, I doubt Tony would when a court case by saying he felt he was in danger of his life. Superman often falls prey to this situation, when a common thug points a gun at him, and the gun is loaded with a krptonite bullet.
When a hero takes on a villain, how much danger are they in? Can they stop the criminal without being injured? How about without the villain injuring an innocent bystander? If they can't, then they should use what ever force they can muster to stop the villain.
There is a line when taking a life is necessary. Anyone that feels otherwise is fooling themselves.
That assumes the hero in question has foreknowledge of what the villain he is facing is capable of dishing out. There's also the where, when, and how the encounter. The hero may not be in any danger but can the same be said for any civilians in the nearby vicinity? The machine gun ricochets that are careening off of the superheroes chest could easily kill several innocent by accident. -
Quote:People who are convicted for possession who are users and have not committed any other crimes should be sentenced to a long term rehab facilities not prison.Originally Posted by ketch
The point I danced around was the oft debated "three strikes" rule. A third felony charge means extended prison time. A drug possessed in quantities above a certain threshold becomes a felony. An individual selling illicit substances can be incarcerated for extended periods without committing a violent crime. To the point: there are individuals serving long term prison sentences that have not committed violent crimes.
An individual with multiple DUI's will only be charged with misdemeanor offense until they cause significant injury, property damage, or death at which point it becomes a felony offense.
To me there is a dissonance there. -
Quote:Nor does it mean you're right.Originally Posted by Durakken
You may not agree but that doesn't mean you are right ^.^
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Quote:Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
This is why we can't have nice threads.
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Quote:This. And even if they did swap out the crews it would have defeated the basic concept of the show. That being what happens when the wrong people are in the wrong place at the wrong time and how they deal with circumstances beyond their control.Originally Posted by Wayfarer
They could have sent people home but they couldn't have put a proper crew on board. As I was reminded when I said it just took a ZPM to dial Destiny, it actually took a lot more energy than that and there seems to be a shortage of places where that much energy is readily available.
Get the right people on the Destiny and it turns into nothing more than another version of SG: Atlantis.
The concept of the show isn't flawed, it's the writing that sucks. -
Quote:Sorry don't agree with this. It's not all or none. Some are a lot more dangerous than others.Originally Posted by Durakken
All drugs should be legal or illegal... not some one way and some the other.
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Quote:Drug possession is hardly a violent crime, what they use the drugs for on the other hand . . . for example if someone uses drugs to render a victim incapable of resisting sexual advances. Same goes if they commit a violent act while stoned (by that I mean murder etc).Originally Posted by ketch
Approximately 1/4 of the prison population is imprisoned on drug related charges. How many of those do you think are marijuana, a substance that has had a far smaller destructive influence on our society than alcohol?
Being under the influence doesn't fly for people under the influence of alcohol so it sure as heck doesn't apply to drug users. -
I suggest Vigilance or Zukunft servers if the OP doesn't want to see AE teams being formed. If they are forming those kinds of temas it will likely be in French or German and the OP won't know what the heck they are saying so it won't bother him.
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Quote:It shows just how great our criminals get treated. It's a gorram 5 star vacation compared to the rest of the world.Originally Posted by sleestack
If we're soooo damned soft on crime, why does the US have the highest incarceration rate in the world? According to the linked article, the US has only 5% of the world's population, but almost 25% of the world's prisoners. Yeah, that's REAL soft on crime.
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Quote:Men can't even hold a candle when it comes to what women do to get revenge. We're pikers. We don't even finish in the top ten. Women hold all those spots.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Well, boys will be boys - although some of them never grow up past the boy stage and become men - which is why these revenge fantasies still exist