Fire_Minded
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Quote:Awww shucks!Your just saying that!Originally Posted by Silverado
I'm just dropping by to say that Fire-Minded has got to be one of the best (worst?) forum trolls/griefers I have seen in years.
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Quote:Well, let me let you in on something about why I just did such a thing.Originally Posted by _Pine_
Fire Minded.
WHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING FOR HELP AND THEN IGNORE ALL HELP GIVEN.
Just shut up and roll what you want and don't bother the forum people about you feelings.
The more someone tells me to not do this and go a totally conformed direction I get Irritated, and make the opposite choice just in spite.
I wont make many builds simply because of many peoples snarky "Its this or nothing!" Attitudes.
Im going to make a uneducated guess and say that its probably true that 90%+ of PvP Stalkers Players are Regen, Willpower, or Ninjitsu.The more people try to cram whats the best down my throat, the less I listen.
There is no "Best" in this game.Everything has a Edge if you use it correctly.
I will happly take SR because it irritates alot of people so much that id take it in the first place.It will work well enough.
"Best" is a percetion of what a person, or a group of people belive to be true.So there for is a Opinion.
Not everyone has to have the best to take down NPCs or other Players.They just have to know how to use what they got, and accept the limitations of there creation.Which most do not do.Thats why way too many people do Forum PvP and Worship Mids and IO only builds.Such as PC and other half witts who probably have absolutly no life other then to crunch numbers and harrass other people on the forums.
And you guys call me the freakin Troll?I dont think so.Im outty....my girl friends comming over.Enjoy your number crunching. -
Did some checking and found that the numbers for PvP and -End are diffrent for a Corruptor then a Defender by 15%.
However the -Recovery is the same base for both ATs.
Short Ciruit does -100% End Recovery for the same amount of time as a Defender.So that part is Valid Enough.
Lightning Ball does more damage, and so does the Nuke in PvP.By almost twice the amount a Defenders base does.
So I conceeded, and deleted my Dark/Elec Defender in favor for a Corruptor.The Scourge was just too enjoyable when used with my Attacks, and may be more useful in PvP then my Defender could be. -
Quote:Im aware of the Diffrences, but I primarly wanted to take up SR because its not commonly taken by very many people at all.Originally Posted by macskull
1. Ninjitsu has +perception as well.
2. Travel suppression affects any movement speed, including IOs, Quickness, Swift, Retsu, Elude, whatever.
Here's what you're getting with SR and Ninjitsu:
SR: More defense debuff resistance, 20% recharge buff, in-set knockback protection, scaling resists (largely worthless on a low-HP character in PvP).
Nin: Stackable psi resistance from Kuji-in Rin, fear resistance, good self-heal, cone confuse/sleep/-percep/-tohit power.
The only reason to go with SR over Nin is if you're a cheap ******* and don't want to buy -KB IOs.
I like lesser used powers.Its a weakness.
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Well if thats the case, then I may still be leaning more Towards SR.Because Ranged can be a issue im sure.Not to mention SR has Hightened Senses for + Perception.
Im also thinking that if the TS is taken into account, and "IF".....this is a big if..the Travel Suppression doesnt effect the following ill definatly go with SR over the rest.
+Running Speed IOs
Quickness
Swift
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Quote:Possible Nerf of everyones Elec/SD Scrappers?.....I would pay to see that...Originally Posted by Siolfir
Backwards, actually - all pets (and pseudopets like Blizzard count) have the +300% (400% total) damage cap rather than the +400% cap for Blasters and Corruptors. It's also why Lightning Rod and Shield Charge don't work as well as they should for Brutes.
As for why the base damage is the same? Well, in general the pet powers use the same base damage scale for the same power because that's how the powers are set up for each AT as well - with a few deliberate exceptions, a power is a power is a power, affected only be AT modifiers (ie, Smite is Smite is Smite is Smite, whether it's a Scrapper, Brute, Tanker, or Stalker using it). Since pets all have the same melee damage modifier (-55.61, or "1.0"), the damage works out the same. An extra if check is added for Scourge, Containment, or other criticals, but they really don't have to play with the numbers as much as copy and paste them.
Are there some exceptions? Sure! Rain of Arrows, for example, was created with a seperate pet for Blasters and Defenders, and the scale of the damage was changed to account for AT modifiers. When it was ported to Corruptors, the scale they used was way off and the Corruptor version doesn't account for their modifier correctly, doing less than 1 point more damage per tick than the Defender version.
Shield Charge was originally set up using the same pet all the time as well - as was Stalker Lightning Rod - and those weren't changed until after Electric Melee was ported heroside, where two new pseudopets were created to account for the Tanker and Scrapper modifiers. Apparently, from a post from Castle in another thread, the changes that took place in accounting for the mods wasn't what he expected, so it's due to get nerfed "soon".
Due to the issues they've had with trying to make the powers fit AT mods, I think I'd just as soon let them take the lazy way with it and leave the damage alone at this point.
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Quote:I can agree with that, it does have alot of Utility and a Heal vs SR, but im in it to attack quick and retreat after doing so.I figured Quickness and more Def % would help me do that.Originally Posted by SPiNE
Ninjitsu for sure if that's the only choice I have other than SR :]
Not to mention i wanna aviod being hit while i try to clobber someone on my opening attack run. -
I figure ill be making a Stalker for PvP, simply because of Going Rogue comming up, id like to Rid any Zone im in of persky Doms.
Iv already figured out my Primary Melee, but im torn between Ninjitsu or Super Reflexes for my Defense.
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Quote:Good points, and I agree.Theres just 1 Thing you missed though.....not everyone takes Kinetics.Originally Posted by newchemicals
Kin Defender + Fulcrum Shift = way more than a Blaster.
Kin Corruptor + Fulcrum Shift + Scourage = OMG! Even more than a Blaster!
Alos, the 2nd issue with your points on Kinetics.Is that theres no Garantee your going to get that Fulcrum Shift off before Dying.Unless of coarse your in a team setting with a Tanker.Which doesnt always happen. -
Quote:Well, im going to do what I do best, and point out the Obvious for this question.Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
In that case WTH do they get Blaster level damage with it? I don't mind when the devs don't update the pets by why on earth would they update it incorrectly?
Blasters get Aim+BU, unless they went with Devices, then they just get Aim.Also dont forget if you fire off a couple attacks on a Blaster you get a damage bonus anyhow, so that adds even more.
However, if you go on the basis that most take a Secondary that provides a BU on there blaster builds.The answer is simple.Blasters get 500 Damage base for Blizzard with a Additional 165% Damage bonus from Dual Build ups.Making it over 1300 before 3 SOs are added for a additional 500 points making it around 1800.
Corruptors get Scourge.Double Damage, as well as Aim that grants 45%ish damage boost.Its a little bit more difficult to gauge in common math the formula for a Corruptor, but it wont do as much as a Blaster will with Blizzard.Not to mention any additional damage from there Secondary that drops Damage Resistance or allows a Self buff.
Finally, the Defender.They get the standard 500 from the base Damage, then 50% from there Aim.They however dont get a Build Up, or a Scourge.There additional Damage is based on there Primary, is it grants a buff or Debuff.They get the weakest Increase from all the Blizzard carrying Plague dogs of CoX, but its still enough to raise an eyebrow when you see it go off.
A Blaster should pretty much destroy anything it hits with a Ice Storm and Blizzard Combo.Then followed by a properly built Corr, then a Defender set up to Obliterate anything in its path with the before mentioned Combo its self.
What I wrote made sense, but if it didnt to you, then my apologize.
In Lamens Terms, They left the damage base the same for Blizzard due to the rather sizable diffrence in additional Damage the ATs that have them possess.
Simple and you dont need Mid's to tell you this.
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Im able to solo on a number of Defenders.
The list is :
Cold/Ice
FF/Energy
Sonic/Sonic
Dark/Dark
Dark/Elec
Storm/Psi
Traps/Rad
My favorite one to solo with is currently my Dark/Elec Defender.
It saps a mob in 2 shots.Soon as that happens, you dont have to worry about anything.They dont have endurance to behave like criminals.Only like lambs to the slaughter.....
I 3 slotted End Mod SOs in Short Circuit.Didnt bother with damage as im only lvl 25 at the moment.But Lightning Ball does pretty nicely as a combo AoE right after it.
Also, if you consistantly fight Freakshow, you get additional bonus damage on most of them with Short Circuit anyhow.So Adding Damage can be delt with later and you can concentrate on the Sapping part of it.
Id have to say Dark/Dark is Rather good to Solo with, but i find the Dark/Elec is a cut above it due to AoEs rather then Cones like Dark has.Plus its better to sap all endurance in 2 hits from a ob then to constantly fire back to back and pray they dont hit you for half your HP more then once with -toHit Debuffs.
No End, means no 5% chance to get hit for full damage.Iv had the instance where a couple Freakshow Tankers nailed me once each and killed me with a 5% chance to hit me and killed me on my Dark/Dark.
Either way, id have to say any Defender can solo at a certain point if you figure out how they can do it in the first place. -
Mathmatically id say a Elec/FA Brute could dish out some fugly Farming compaired toa SS/FA Brute.
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Quote:Wow....and I thought my Threads made little sense....(or so im told)Originally Posted by Tongz
Aw, don't cry emo kid... I wasn't being a meany, I was merely defining a term and the perceived problem. (If you can't figure that one out, check the thread title.)
There seems to be a general consensus that the numbers do, in fact, come quite close when it comes to damage. Are they about even on defenses, too? That's the feeling I'm getting; I only ask because I feel like brutes have higher HP. If it is, then ofc if comes to personal preference, rendering my obsolete definition... obsolete. (Still. People should know what stuff means.)
In a team, a Scrapper is Better.In a Solo Scene a Brute "Can" be better, but not always.
Scrappers will never be replaced by Brutes because Brutes are like your mother...too high maintnance.A Scrapper is like the Girl Next door, easy to please.
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I farm with either a Fire/Fire Tanker or a SD/Axe Tanker.Both Rip mobs apart rather fast.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
I believe you mean the frequently used AoE slow/stun/-regen power that happens to rez allies as a side effect.
Yeh, I wont lie.I use it for a AoE stun all the time.
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Hmmmm, never done allt he story arcs my self, but it sounds like a cool idea.
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Ok, im going to cave in and make a Corr for my account.
Simply because Defenders lack Pain Domination, Thermal, and Fire Blast sets.
Any Corr build ideas that envolve 1 or more of the 3 iv listed?
Also would like to add that this Corr will be Solo all the time and running story arcs instead of PLing at AE or Teaming. -
Quote:Hell with a Kin....Make a Dark Miasma Defender and be done with it.Originally Posted by Silver_Tooth
Think Empathy is bad for button mashing? You should try a Kin.
Massive healing, -Damage Resistance, -Enemy Damage, -Regen, Dark Servant which is a Heal Bot that can Tank, -toHit, and the rarely ever needed or used Team AoE Rez.
So Easy your Dark Servant can handle the heals on its own..... -
Quote:I decided to stay here on the forums because youd get lonely without me.Originally Posted by Lucky666
lol rally others on my side? I don't even know those people either in game or on these forums.
You know nothing about pvp but spout these non sense numbers about chain induction doing a 1000 damage yet fail to take into account base resist that every toon in a pvp gets.
You know almost as much as pvp as you do about pve so stop giving others bad advice in both fields.
I seem to remember you were leaving the forums for good it was one of the things i was looking forward to not having to read your mis information ahh well trolls will be trolls I guess.
edit: p.s. i love getting reactions like yours for having the number 666 tied to my name
Besides, not all of my advice is bad at all,Also to point out to ou that the "Base" Numbers for that 1000 is what PvP damage is.the damage resistance that everyone gets doesnt calculate into that number.Its the mathmatical number from the +200% damage boost from both BU and FE, Chain Inductions nearly 300 damage base by level 50 and 3 Damage SOs applied to it.
And reguardless if you have friends on the forums or not.Little insulting tidbits to get other morons like PC Guy and Tamaki to chime in like little crownies that like to gang up on someone when they really have nothing to say in the first place.
Like Gnatts at a BBQ.Freakin Annoying.
And I kinda like Orcs and Trolls, so your not really insulting me.I think ill dedicate my next toon to everyone on the Forums and name it the Wirey Haired Man Goblin!Just for fun!
Then again, I dont think they would allow such a long name.Ill have to check.
As for bad advice?Your one to talk.You only chime in when you belive you can win a fight or argument.Thats a oppertoonist if I ever seen 1. -
Hmmm, lets just say for the sake of Argument that your using SOs on a FA Scrapper.You goto a PvP Zone and have 35% damage resistance to all damage types, including Psi (yes, Psi), and then you get Toughness, which is around 17% damage resistance to all damage types?(Id have to loggin to look this up.Might be 18% with SOs.)
Thats around 50% Damage Resistance.Id say thats pretty good for PvP on a Scrapper.Not to mention the Heal with Hasten Running is around 18 Seconds, like 24 without the Hasten running.So DR doesnt effect the Heal.hmmmmmm.Yup, your totally right, it sounds horrible.
OH WAIT!
BU+FE and Chain Induction with 3 damage SOs does almost 1000 damage before a crit at lvl 50 in PvP.
BU+FE and Lightning Rod does around 800 at lvl 50 in PvP before Crit.
Gosh...your totally right!A FM/Elec would be SOOOOOOO much better!....not.....
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Its interesting to see im a troll when I acctually make sense when I talk.Then again.If names pointed out anything, youv already Pidgeon Holed your self as a Idiot Luck "666".What kind of little girl would be happy with having the mark of the beast on there name?
Iv figured out that a Troll on the Forums is anyone that challenges the base line idea of anyone who belives that something is the best.
By the way Tamaki.Go do the numbers on how much damage a SOd Elec/FA Scrapper can dish out before you chime in.
Chain Induction with BU+Fiery Embrace and 3 Damage SOs with PvP Numbers on a level 50 Scrapper can reach 1,000.Lightning Rod with both BU+FE and 3 Damage SOs point to a number of 800 Damage at level 50.Both before Crits are ever involved.
By the way Lucky666, we have already estabished that you can "Almost" Perma AM on a Rad character.A few seconds down time is close enough for me.With that being said, try to come up with a better way to argue a point with me other then trying to be like a High Schooler and getting others to rally to your side.Im not calling on anyone else to help protect me. -
Id personally keep Power Surge.For those +4/8 Missions.
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Quote:Heres something to think about on this.Originally Posted by Plusone
I wanna play a Fire/Fire/Pyre for that very reason but they seam awful squishy.
I have a Fire/Fire/Pyre Tanker.Its not as Squishy as you think.I never took Toughness, and everything is DEAD before im really hurting to begin with.
Your a Raging Fireball running into a mob of "Flammable" beings.Keep that in mind.
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Quote:Not exactly Ignorance on my part there friend.Originally Posted by Lucky666
ignorance must be bliss
Its more of the effect that those builds arnt the end all PvP builds for those 2 ATs.Thats the part of the belief that is Ignorant.
Not only do I rarly see either of those combos when I PvP on Freedom (never acctually seen a Psi/EM), but you can make any Build and PvP it as long as youv got enough IOs stacked up onto it.
Some you wouldnt have to IO at all and they would destroy other players.Such as a Elec/FA Scrapper thats built correctly.It could destroy people on SOs alone.
So before you think im Ignorant, rethink whats really the Ignorant part of your narrow understanding of the game.