FireWyvern

So you're saying controllers and defenders are useless? Why so much hate?




P.S. Since it seems you have to specify every single thing cause people are more interested in winning the argument then actually staying with the topic. That quote and answer was only an exemple of quotes taken out of context.

Last i checked, tanker have equally the right to skip taunt then brutes. You're the one doing it wrong by trying to force your playstyle on others.

You can go to the tankers forum, there's a post about taunt vs taunt-less every month, and it's always 50-50.

According to paragonwiki, both use the same term. =P
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Scranker

Then i guess every single thing is this game except STF is "very simple missions". Cause i never needed a tanker in anything else. Hell, i could probably do STF with a scranker, if i played more blueside. (Only one lvl 50 there, my blapper.)

Except some very rare case, like defense heavy AVs, you don't need auto-hit. And you never really have to "absolutly" hold aggro.

Well...that's the thing. On my teams, a scranker is a lot more helpful to the team. =P

I'm still waiting for Ice Melee scrapper and brutes. Or a blue side stone melee that isn't tanker. =O

Really, even if you don't like the idea, nobody owns it to you to play "your" way. This game is about customization and it's already easy enough. People should stop trying to force others to play there way.

From Heraclea:
Except scrappers? I think i remember some surviving AVs without any insps. One of them even survived 9 of them. So you really think a good scrapper with a decent build couldn't stand against 1-3 AVs with insps? Laughtable.



For the OP: Play the way you want to. Some people will shun you for making a scranker, but you're better of without playing them. They rank as much as people who absolutly need an attack-less "healorz".

Personnaly, i'd much rather play with a scranker then a tanker. =)

Except that it's not a bug. There's a lot you can do, it as already been explainned in the thread.

Keeping to /bug it, is as stupid as calling the cops everytime you see a speed limit sign telling them it's "bugged" and that there should be no limit.

The devs more then know that she have a mag 100 hold. You're just wasting the devs' time by continuously reporting it and/or suggesting people to report it.

If you're not happy with her hold, go to the suggestion forum.

You aren't really an HERO. Those have 20k-ish HP, most have PToD and they hit a lot harder then you. Yet, she's supposed to hold HEROES in one shot. (She did it to positron in the little video =P)

But yeah, it's working as intended, her hold is mag 100. Once you've been held, you lose pretty much everything except the small % the passive gives you. You still have better HP then a blaster, but not much more survivability, so it's normal you don't stay alive long.

The fact she's -1 won't change much about her incredible damage. But she'll have a little harder time hitting you (i think). There's two easy solution to beating her.

1) Insps.
2) Pop unstoppable. Even if she held you, you'll still be capped to her damage. =)

Telling us wich villain AT you prefer would help us a bit. =P

I'd suggest scrapper. Good at soloing or in team. Doesn't need IOs to be good, but when you'll want to, you can turn him into a god with lots of inf.

Got around making the build in mids again. I still need about 6 purples,numina:heal and a few impervium:resistance though.

If they wanted us not to make ice melee scrankers, they would have given ice melee to one of the 3 other melee ATs that do reasonnable damage. =) And until GR, given EM and SM to a blueside damage dealer. (aka scrapper)

Also, unless you can prove that in 100% of the time, in every single case possible, your playstyle is the best(most effective, most safe, most quick AND most entertainning wich is highly subjective), that just stay your opinion that taunt is needed. Just because you say it's needed doesn't make it needed.

Only have punch. I might have a proc or two in it now that i think of it. I lost my mids build when my laptop crashed and i can't check in right now. =/

I don't have blackstaff and while i could use sands, it would be a killer for my endurance. I'm already losing end with the crash, no need to had one costy aoe attack that do weak damage. For the non attacking powers, i only have DP and aid-self. DP, i rarely use unless i get low. Aid-self, depends a lot on the AV i'm facing.

I'd try with pylons, but depending how lucky it gets and my use of aid-self, it would give a different result. And i don't think i can survive it long enough. ^^;;

I have mu lightning. Not boost from the secondary. (invuln) Not sure about the exact recharge, but i probably have around 50% global recharge, CI in all my attacks, except haymaker with the purple set.


If rage would be better then no rage. What about double stacking rage? Does the two crash overshadow double rage or is it better?

I don't "lead" brute and i never have squishy in my groups, except if it's a duo. As soon as we are more then 3, i expect everyone to be able to take there share of aggro. Wich usually isn't a problem, since i team with people that can tank the whole freedom phalanx with a corr. (with a bit of support, but same goes for brutes)

Oh, and i don't stop attacking when i'm about to crash. I just wait for the very last second.... then use HandClap! Boom, enemies everywhere, not attacking me and stunned. I can procceed to part 2. If it's just one AV, i'll get by with kitting or insps.

I have to wait about 2-3 secondes, depending how lucky i am, before i can hit DP. Then i click my two toggles. Then i eat one blue and i'm ready to hit thing.

Aside from EBs, AVs or a good amound of +4 bosses, i can kill anything in 3 minutes. Granted i use it less often now that i'm IOed, but if i need it, that spawn sure won't kill me. Neither should it kill my team, since i team with people that don't need babysitting.

After the crash, i'll still have about 30-40 fury. Won't take long to get back at the "average max".


I also have a WP, and yeah i like the tier9. I still prefer unstoppable. SoW isn't even close to the peak performance you get with unstoppable. And since Wp doesn't have a self-heal, when you realize you're in trouble, you might already be too low, even for SoW to save you.

I've seen that said often. Do you think the reverse is also true? Elec and spines offers only slightly better aoe then SS and claws. (i think, SS and claws might be better) Yet have terrible ST.

I tried to stick with spines and elec, but never managed to keep them.

Both are very nice to have. The end resistance means one sapper doesn't auto-drain you in one shot. The slow resistance, i'm not sure how much it helps, but considering fire attacks do more damage normaly, i wouldn't want to miss the fire resitance.
The other thing i really like about them, you don't need much slots in them. That frees up for the toggles and attacks.

Invuln, nothing is really skippable. All the powers are good and it only depends on how tight your build is and your playstyle. Some people skip the autos. Some skip unstoppable cause of the crash, but it's really easy to learn to survive it.

Personnaly, i skip invincibility. =P Doesn't suit my playstyle and it saves me endurance.

Did you download it on titan network? They are the one updating it now, not Mid. Caused me a few problems when i went back from a break and didnt know that.

They don't. That's just your perception about something that annoys you. Just like you'll remember the 2-3 times in a year you're late to work cause of a black-out, without considering the 363 other days there wasn't any.

You've encountered crappy players that can't adapt there play style. On the other hand, because you've experienced something doesn't gives you the right to pretend everyone who didn't is a liar or playing "normal" sets.

Most of the people who tell you they don't have this issue, have over 50 or 100 alts. They've probably tried every sets there is for there favorite AT, and tried every ATs.

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When I see 20 Blasters ranging from level 1 to 50 under Atlas.With common or identical combos and looking like a Mercinary re-hash, or Hit Man likeness.All with the Dual Pistols Primary, and 1 of 2 Common Secondaries like Energy Melee or Mental Manipulation.It makes me ask why.[ /quote] Dual pistol is extremely new. Specialy if you consider that not everyone have access to it yet. It's normal for people to get a feel of the new set. It might offend you, but that's crazy. When i feel like eating an hamburger, i won't go check the statistique to make sure i'm "unique" enough by eating one today.

I love to play brutes. Wich mean i've tried to some extend, every single primary except BA and i've tried every single secondary. When KM will come out, of course i'll want to try it.

Only the crappy players do. I do have one question for you though.

Why do you push more then half the powers in the game back so fiercely, just because people enjoy them?

P.S. If you're still on freedom, you only have yourself to blame. People have been telling for months that it's one of the cause of your problems.

Same as granite. Since while in granite, you don't have any special protection against psi. =P

P.S. Except rooted. But a little regen sure isn't enough for two lvl 53 psi AVs.

Just because -you- don't like unstoppable doesn't mean it's a throw away power. I skipped invincibility on my two invulns. Does that mean it's a throw away power? Nope just that it didn't suit my style.

Pretty much every single power can be skipped without causing too much problem to a set.


Also, WP's tier 9 is supposed to be unaffected by recharge. So all your LOTG and bonuses shouldn't change a thing for it's recharge. Quite a few people on the forums said they tested that, and Mids also seem to aggree.

If you really have that high of defense, personnal force field might be clicked. And while it's up you can't attack or command your pets. Just to make sure you don't think you'll always be softcapped to everything.

(Though...with personnal force field, positionnal defense should also be high.)