FireWyvern

You really tried a tough one (Ms Lib) and one that cutted your DPS in half (Arch-A). =P

While it's less impressive, it's how pretty much everyone started. First one i beat was Mynx, with a shivan and a full tray of tier2-3 insps. I was really happy and impressed. Later. i managed to kill some with only the shivans and a little insps, or with only major use of insps. Then a new brute managed to solo one without any...but it only worked on one AV. Now, more then a year and half after the first, i have one that took a bunch of AVs (one at the time) without any!

So soloing AVs with a normal melee build, even with using insps is pretty good!

For GMs... can't help you, i stick to melee. =P

Sorry Dechs!

I aggree with you, a good tanker will always be better then a good brute for holding aggro/staying alive. Wether it's needed depends on the team make up and players preference.

And i don't see brutes or tankers being eliminated. It will just make the players that hate brute or tanker happier, while still having the two around. =)

If you stick with the same primary/secondary though, i don't think an IOed tanker can reach the SOed brute damage.

If you change the primary/secondary, then an IOed dark/stone brute is probably sturdier then even an IOed fire/EM tanker for exemple. =P

That's assuming Dech started the conversation...but he was quoting someone.


The meaning is more like this:

1) Is an SO tanker enough for the game? Yes. The game is based on SO (so far) and a good team of SOed characters can do pretty much anything.

2) Is an IOed brute as sturdy as an SOed tanker? Yes.

Therefor, combining 1) and 2), an IOed brute is good enough to play the role of tanker, in the same way as an SOed tanker can for a normal team.

Of course an IOed tanker is sturdier then an IOed brute... but he's also sturdier then a SOed tanker. Does that mean we have to kick all SOed tanker because they aren't IOed? no.

And the meaning of "with IOs you can make a brute as strong as a tanker" is that:
An IOed brute can be as sturdy as an SOed tanker.

It was never question about IO brute vs IO tanker. "A tanker" is an SOed tanker, since that's the dev's mesurement of balance and challenge in this game.

The debate is that IOed brute can be as tough as SOed tanker.
But IOed tanker won't do as much damage as an SOed brute.

Is your tanker IOed? Cause i'm sure there is /dark IOed brutes that are a lot sturdier then an SOed dark/ tank. Because that's what he was referring to. =P

With IOs, you can make a brute as sturdy as a tanker. And by the definition of the dev and the balance, a "tanker" is one without IOs.

They are just using a different methodes then you. It's not any more rude then someone braodcasting that he's looking for more in his team. Just like you having to read all the tells, if i'm in a zone, i'll have to read all the useless LFM broadcasts even if i'm not looking for a team.

I know i hate a lot seeing someone LFM more then once. Even if i just "hear" him once between each missions, eventually i'll only see that message on my screen. Typing a quick "no sorry" whenever someone want me to join there team or they want to join my team? No problem at all. And if i'm too busy, i'll just don't answer or when i'm done.

Considering it's "virtue the unofficial RP server", it could be said that it's even more rude to broadcast, since some people might be interrupted in there RP session. They could always remove broadcast from there chatbox.... but so could you with your tells. Don't want to miss an important tell? Same thing can be said about an important broadcast for the other guy. =P


Basically, it's like the "do you remove your hat or keep it when you enter a church" question. For some religion it's rude to have no hat, for some it's rude to keep it. Unlike the churches though....you can't know what kind of team searching methode Smersh likes... unless you put it in your search comment.

So not rude at all, unless it's in your search comment.


edit: I didn't read the full 6 pages. I'm quoting this, but it seems to be the general idea in many of your first posts.
Also... my point doesn't include multiple tell from the same person. If someone doesn't answer you or answer negatively, then continuing to ask is rude.

I've heard that technically, we only use 10% of our brain, at one time. But we use all of it, depending on what parts we need. Not sure if it's true but it would end the "we can become gods" myth. o_o

No we wouldn't be mutants, since every human could do it. :0

If tanking is your goal, your damage doesnt really matter.

It's not suggested a lot here because a lot of brutes prefer to beat huge spawns or farm. If you go to the scrapper forums, it comes up a lot more.

The most commons are WP and Shield, while for primary, i pretty much see them all equaly. But i'm sure i've seen any combo possible (excluding APP/pools). The reason why some are less frequent? Because they aren't as good in a min/max way, or less intuitive to find a concept for.

You don't see much claws/fire because shield gives a lot more damage then /fire and fire or elec gives more damage then claws (i think... there's no clear way to decide best aoe damage)

Fighting is a lot commun for scrapper, because it boost one of there two fonctions. Damage, we already have enough and the pools pretty much don't help for that. (assault beeing the exception but costing lots of endurance for little.) On the other hand, protection can be easily gained and scrappers are far from the cap for msot part. And the closer you get to the cap, the bigger the effect. (s/l from 50% top 70% for exemple makes you last 66% longer for a 20% bonus, from 40% to 45% def, you last 100% longer, for a 5% bonus)

I don't see it being a problem. The pools cover very different roles (travel, protection, support, mitgation, healing, less downtime). Some things are a lot less in demand, but are still taken. If we wanted to make them more popular, we'd need to boost them too much, wich would cause problems with the ATs it's actually used a lot or would be just ridiculous.

For exemple, the traval pools are less taken now that there is ninja run. One way to make them popular again, would be to make the travel powers even faster! But it would be ridiculous if SS' max speed got boosted X3-4 just to make a bigger difference with ninja run.


For scrappers, there's no bad combo, just some that are less seen. =)

That's what i don't get... you've never played games with mana? While playing a mage? Even when you take the "mana recovery" power, you can still get drained pretty fast and have to eat tons of blue potions. At least in CoH, you can eventually get past the need to carry 30+ blue potions.

(If you really went tedious, try RO. You have to get to level 10 before getting your class. That takes about 2-3 hours the first time. "rest" in that game can be used at will, because you might need it between every fight. =P)

That's only true if your definition of origin is "the one with the biggest % for that character." There's a lot of exemple of characters with dual or more origins. Are some that just changed from one to another. Special true for mutants with very minor mutations, supers that are also extremely good fighters and aliens that also use technologie..

If it was me, i'd still have done two origin. One for normal humans, and one for non-human species that are still natural. WHen people ask about ideas for a "natural" character, they almost always mean a normal human.


There was a cure to stop them from being mutants. Also... there's a few millions of ex-mutants that would disagree with the "All the rest can be taken away but they will remain mutants ". =P

Yes and no. Brutes only do slightly better then scrapper. I think the average was along 5%. And one of the big reason why is because Gloom is such a good attack. With GR, scrappers might get gloom, and might be more damaging.

While the brute damage cap is higher...is base damage is a lot lower then scrapper. When you count insps or buffs, there was a post about it. Scrapper where higher for a good portion of the time (specialy with things like BU), untill you really went past the scrapper cap. Most of the time, you won't pop for 200+% of red insps. =P

Don't fallow that advice...specialy if you're used to Handclap. Some people just hate KB, but it's extremely usefull, specialy when survivability is the question.


What level are you presently at? If you're still low, it's normal to have problems with +2/+3, specialy if you're fighting non-s/l enemies. If you're higher, you should have enough inf to get a few IOs that would really help you out.

/FA's fire resistance will be 90% instead of 75%. /elec's nrg resistance will be 90% instead of 75%.

The difference between 75% and 90% isn't marginal. You take 2,5 times more damage. If you'd put it in def terms, it's be like comparing 37,5% to 45%.

And you forgot about the god modes. Invuln and elec can easily get to 90% instead of 75%.

About the insps, it's not that the scrapper can't pop some. It's that the invuln scrapper with tough will only get from 70%-ish to 75%, instead of going a lot higher. Same for the buffs, you're still capped. But even without insps/buffs, like you mentionned in your first post, there's still a bunch of situation where the cap will make a huge difference.

I don't remember exactly, but i think we were 7 and managed to do a successfull MS raid. And most of us didn't have insane purple/pvp IOs build.

I checked rapidly the last two pages of the pylons thread, and i saw a scrapper who did it in 4:02 and a MM who did it in 3:18. So those two guys would solo 7 pylons in 12 minutes. Seems possible to start a raid before they respawn. Specialy if it's 3 guys instead of 2, and they concentrate on the same pylon. (all the buff and debuff stacking)

Those numbers are without insps. If you add insps, shivans and nukes? It will go even faster.

Yes and no. One player can already do almost all the content, including soloing AVs, (even GMs with the specific right combination)

The things one player can't do, i'm not sure three could anyway.... mostly looking at LRSF, STF, khanSF and BSF.

Some borderline things like MS raid, LGSF can be done by three players.

One or three player, you'll never succeed some shards TF where you need to click four glowies simultaniously.

And you'll often need more then three people to start the TF/SF.

You only use the best for one attack. So it will only be 30%.