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Dont exploit the game... NO PROBLEM.

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This^^^. The dev's may not be "fans" of farming, but what they actually dislike is people reaping rewards (whether that be XP or items or whatever) with no risk. If someone can solo missions set to the maximum difficulty and size possible, they deserve all the swag they earn.

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How is it an exploit when the give it to you? Im happy about it, im all for for mobs, just dont ban an account because they lvl fast.

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EDIT: BTW, this was Posi's idea, not mine -- I was just in the meeting it came up in. So, HE'S the bestest dev evah!

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I've been informed that my memory is awful and that it was Pohsyb's idea...So, um, yeah. He's the bestest dev evah!

My apologies for the mistake! (Is that enough? Back into your box now! Go!)

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Yeah Posi might Ban your account.

Farming AE Missions and Lvling to fast will get us banded. Now we can map for 8 and run solo or farm 2nd account. He just gave us another option to increase farming and another reason to ban accounts.

Before you release this and Posi gives us the stupid speech again you better test and see how fast you will hit 50 now.

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Chat Bug.

Chat Bug.

Chat Bug.

There ya go, now it's posted, now you can look into fixing it finally? It's been, how long?

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Yes yes and yes... fix the darn chat bug.

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wwwweeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaachat bug?

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127351273712huh?

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ewqjelkqewqwewqwqPlease try changing the battery in your KB or post a hijack this report.

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For those upset by the PvP recipe drop change:

Blame the farmers who flaunted their activity by openly, repeatedly and shamelessly rez-killing alts on the platform of the villain base in BB.

This is yet another example of how farming hurts the game. Not too many people care if someone farms, but when it becomes so obvious that the devs nerf it, it hurts EVERYONE who was playing as intended.

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If there wasn't farmers farming them there would be none on the market at all at the rate they were dropping.

I dont blame farmers i blame the whiny people crying on the boards drawing all the attention to it, which caused more and more people to do it. Then you have the wanna be Dev's and Arc Narcs complaining because its against their morals.

Blah on you all

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Base green runs.

Seriously, it takes me 45 seconds from the time I click on go to base until I'm back in zone at the same spot of my death with full health and 20 more greens waiting on the 30 second countdown to allow me to fight again. (this is faster than going to the hospital by far and you come back with full health) Prior to the change I could self heal over 6,000 points of damage going through the greens, escape, have a turret or npc kill me, then make another trip to the base to refill. Combine that with phase/pff and it was just lame and close to impossible to kill the popper.

Just saying.

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But Blood never dies.

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I would honestly like a dev comment on this. BAB's commented on the stf bug, why not a comment on this.

Questions:
1. Why was there a need for this change?
2. Did ya'll think about the casual pvp'r and low population servers?
3. If this does go into effect is the drop rate going to be increased?
4. Is this final without possible discussion to change it another way?

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here is BAB's comment on the STF bug

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Still no stf fix?

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Which STF fix were you expecting?

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Some comment right. Sounds to me they didn't know about it. I hope that is untrue.

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# Fixed PvP rewards to function once again. Now, influence, inspirations, and other normal rewards occur on every PvP kill, while PvP IO recipes can only be rewarded on rep-valid kills.
# Fixed rep-validation to function in arenas, even though it doesn't give you any reputation in arenas.
# Also lowering the rep timer from 10 minutes to 5 minutes.


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so in essence, every rep-valid kill has a chance for a pvp recipe drop, but we can get this chance once every 5 minutes?

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Yes, that's what they were saying. so 12 times an hour you have a chance for 1. they were dropping 1 every 80 kills. 6+ hours maybe to get one if you farm yourself with 2 accounts.

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Over emotional much?

Repeating a point IN ALL CAPS doesn't make the point more valid. It just comes across as obnoxious yelling. And what's your point. "You can't fix farming, so don't try. At all?"

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No farming is going to happen regardless. Fix other thing like have been mentioned, stf bug, chat bug, ect.

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In my mind, it’s like saying “Fire the police and save some money because you’ll never totally prevent crime from happening.”

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Well your not going to put 20 cruisers in a culdesac where the homes are worth a million dollars and have them circle the block every 5 min.

Well your going to put the majority of the police in high crime area. Put the devs in a room together and work on a fix for said bugs.

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You're assuming that they didn't consider the possibility of farming at all, just because they changed a drop rate later? Come on.

You then assume it wasn't tested internally. Where exactly is your source for that one? You are aware they have private test servers, right?

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Well if they had tested it they would have realized that it was extreeeeeeemly easy and possible to farm. Same goes for AE farms. You mean to tell me that they are gonna ban someones account because they didn't take into account that the issue they put out live could be used in that fashion.

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Your comparison is painfully off the mark when you compare the developers changing the rules to a MMO- which they've been doing to day one- in order to stop an exploit- to releasing a patch that allows students to change their own grades?

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The point of the students changing grades is meant to imply that the IT guy did not test the patch well enough and released it, the result was students exploiting that patch. IT guy gets fired.


Point is farming is farming, not going to EVER go away. Now people farm more because this new change, the WW/BM market suffers, and people need money now more then ever because its 1 billion for a Paneca Proc, 1 million for a regenerating flesh if your a want it now kind of person, 200 thousand for a thorn tree vine, the list goes on.

why so much inf, because people are farming AE, AE doesnt Drop Salvage. Why so much for a PVP IO? because they dont drop much and the farmers that were doing it cant supply them. Well since most everyone is farming they have mega cash to pay these prices.

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Hey you think sometime in the next year we can get a fix for the chat bug?

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wwwwqqqeeeeeWhich one?

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ghj2313nmklyes thats the one.

Got a legitimate panacea proc for sale, i'll burn a respec if someone wants to buy it for 1 billion.

YOU CANT STOP FARMING!

Like i said in another post. this is the kind of crap they need to test for before giving us something then taking it back. You mean to tell me not one of the DEVS did not ask another DEV... Hey before we add these PVP Io's lets check and see if these can be farmed. That should be the first question that they ask each other when new content is added to the game

Ticks me off when they take crap back or screw it up so bad and then punish the player because THEY screwed up and didn't ask the right questions. If this kinda stuff happened where i work people would be fired. Would go something like this....


Employee: "Hey boss, Epic just pushed out a patch to the 4 file server"

Boss: "Did epic test the patch?"

Employee: "No boss thats why im coming to you, all the student can login to the information system and change there own grades"

Boss: "Epic, YOUR FIRED, Pack your crap and get out"


Get your [censored] together. Fix STF, Fix Chat Bug, Fix the little lag spikes since i15, Fix whats broke. I don't pay 30 a month to lag. I don't pay 30 a month to run a broken (but do able) STF.

What is funny is that the DEVS gave us MA, during the whole damn planing process not one of the them said hey wait people will use this to farm, or if you add this lvl minion it will auto SK people to 46, or if you add this and that it will add more mobs then intended.

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Hey lets give a reward for killing other players, you mean the cheap DEVS don't have access to 2 accounts to realize that you can farm your 2nd account in PVP areas.

i think before they give something to us, the first thing they should ask themselves is "CAN THIS BE FARMED" if so dont add it. If you DO add it dont take it away. Jesus Christ already they cant be that stupid can they?

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Nothings more exciting to see, than beating a blaster to within a inch of his life only to see him click hoarfrost and heal his entire life back, than his team assembles on your position and suppresses you to death lol. Or it could be server tick you to death the lag on freedom lately is ruthless, click something and it seems to go off 2-3 sec after the fact.

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Yeah nothing more exciting then beating a stalkers [censored] only to have him placate, pop greens, then hide off into the sunset.

The lag you speak of is just horrendous. I was killed before i even knew i got hit. But if you call support they will most likely blame your equipment. tell you to check this, check that, replace the battery in your wireless mouse because you obviously didn't click the power, blah blah blah.

Not once will they admit issue 15 broke the internet LOL.

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Every 30 sec or so it shows packets lost

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Yep, that's exactly what it is. It's not constant steady lag. It's just basically not registering anything that happens every few seconds. I don't know what the hell they did to make it constantly do this starting with I15.

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fire them all.

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[Admin] Attention! In 30 minutes, City of Heroes and City of Villains will go down for daily server maintenance. The

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....quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog?

What ever the case may be or what my opinion is, im having a blast in RV. Like i originally said, i still get my kills, but camp the base and ill drone the hell out of ya and wont think twice about it. Base camping sucks i hate when that takes place either side.

The thing i dont like the fact that i get chain held, reminds me of old pvp. Now with that said it could be because of a team of doms is now doing it where before it was one.

Cya tonight

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You still have not explained as to "why" you feel that they are "so overpowered" in pvp right now.


You mention them doing tons of "damage" as a source of their "OP"-ness. I show that Blasters can do the same thing, and with more survivability in zones.


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You do blaster damage, they are not blasters. You are a control primary, my controller holds don't do that type of damage. Your secondary is a blast, my defender blast does not do that type of damage. you know why? because they are not blasters.

Your max HP is the same as a blaster. you start out with 187 less hp BUT can reach the same HP cap as a blaster. so don't give me the crap about less HP because we all know your not coming in there gimped. You wanna play blaster villain play a corrupter so your PRIMARY BLAST will be on par with a BLASTER. Again Dom's are not Blasters and should not hit like them.

I do agree with your point as to why its over crowded with doms but the problem is it will remain that way because everyone wants the upper hand.

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They might be doing near Blaster level damage (I still feel good Blaster builds put out way more) but they suffer from being more susceptible to being "spiked" and killed than Blasters.


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They are not blasters though. The revamp was to make the dom playable in PVE not to OWN RV. The damage was so poor outside of dom that they needed fixed for PVE.

I have done both sides (playing the Dom / fighting the Dom) its the new Flavor of the Month and right now OP in pvp so of course everyone is going to respec and play theirs. So when there is 20 doms and 10 stalkers and a few Corr's as there was in RV this afternoon camping the hero base expect to face my Flavor of the Month. DRONE FTW

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They are too busy making new hats.

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This is classic and applies to all bugs in the damn game. to worried about farming AE to fix stuff.

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So that Freeze Ray, or Bitter Freeze Ray, Tesla Cage, and Char aren't holds? GG

...so that means an Ice/EM blaster can PB his three holds...o wait, he needs the proc right? GG

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I did forget about ice my bad. those are mag 3, 2 second holds if that anymore. im not sure since i dont run ice/em

but my orginal response was to compare doms to blasters other then the NEW sick damage they deal is nonsense.

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no worse than facing a blaster or a SS type really


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WHAT, No blaster holds unless they have the Devistation Proc. That has been nerfed to 4 seconds along with all the other holds if im not mistaken. Doms can use setbonus to boost that back up, blasters cant because it a proc, i dont think any bonuses from sets for blaster increase hold duration.

So to say its no different then a playing a blaster is obsured.

Yeah way over powered. i took 340 pts of damage from fossilize plus got held and Total Focused for another 600 and something. Way OP.

I mean i get my kills and im not saying nerf anything yet but at the rate it was going last night it needs looked at. i mean once they figure out the right fotm build and proper slotting it could be I12 pvp all over again as far as chain holds go. It was happening to me last night.

Nothing is dropping in BB, or RV no inf, prestige, inspirations. not even for the first kill

i got nothing in RV or BB. no inf,prestige, inspirations, notta

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But do you have anything better you could be doing?

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Yup, I've got to go to work now, byeeee.

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Ciao.

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I'm still looking for a Player Question in there somewhere and I'm not seeing it.

This just looks like a statement geared towards the devs, not a question geared towards other players.

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But do you have anything better you could be doing? So just enjoy the read.