Electric-Knight

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First Post After a Terrible Joke By a Red Name

Third Base!!


Here's a shot of him during the subway series!

Not true!
Most everyone would be highly concerned over who shot first!!

After looking through the special Black Pebble Decoding Ring... Did this really clear anything up??

I thought the dingo ate her baby...

Well said.

This very thought was on my mind as well.
And... love the name of the last character!

Not that I am providing positive feedback toward the OP question(s), but just a simple pondering.
I imagine it is another matter of time. What is current and what is not. Different things of differing scales tend to last longer for the average masses to feel offended by.
Whether or not any of us agree with someone getting offended... it doesn't make those offended less valid (offended is offended... Yes, there are always two sides of extreme, but hey, that's the way it is). That becomes the tricky bit... 'what's too extreme and who decides?'.
In the end, I suppose it just comes down to whether or not you want to be that guy (regardless of what criteria and equations you use to work it out).

Agreed. And that is the fault of the writing and/or execution of the craft.

I agree with you both in that the execution of the story was done poorly, especially considering the likely motivation behind the results.
And that's all I was saying. I don't personally have any issue with them doing it for whatever reason that made them decide to do it... But whatever their reasons, the execution of it should be as well done as if the reasons behind it were completely different.
Done cheaply? Quite possibly.
Petty? I don't think so.
However, the reasons likely being what they are and not done so well? Yeah, that's going to come off even worse for some. I get that! And I'd, personally, have worked to avoid that in the execution of the story/writing.

Oh, I understand that standpoint as well!
Maybe the people there just didn't think they were ever very good characters and would prefer to wipe them out than retool them.

Either which way, I don't think anything I say will appease anyone's qualms! And I'm not likely to change my mind about being okay with whatever reasons they had.

I do get what you are saying though. I'm considered quite a stickler for quality in my work and I'm not one to often pardon it in others.
Just one of those cases where I don't have a problem with it... Maybe it was something Darrin Wade slipped into my tea...

Hehe, I know we're getting way off subject here, but...

While I respect and understand the fact that we have a lot of zones and it may be too many (at the very least, too many that are under-used... and perhaps a global teaming/communication system that is under-used, combining to make a bigger problem)...
However, I don't think I'm in favor of removing any zones without making existing ones BIGGER.
While I agree that things may be too spread out, zone-wise, I feel like things are too cramped!

By all means, I can only offer my own opinions and I certainly do not fault you for yours nor anyone for their own, regarding their liking or disliking of this situation (You probably fully know that, but I'm just stating it for utter clarity of my position when posting that).

I work in a creative field and I can understand wanting to get rid of someone else's lingering work.
I'm not a big fan of many of this game's characters and I'm not that invested in their stories, so those are all aspects that contribute to my feelings on the matter, for better or for worse, hehe.

I also do not disagree with criticism about how the stories have played out and/or the writing involved.
However, even if these stories were written flawlessly and/or to everyone's liking (impossible idealism left in for laughs), if the main reason behind creating these deaths were due to the characters being Emmert's, I don't personally think we need to claim it is petty. More importantly, I don't think it would be petty.
It's easy to sit back and imagine and all, but when we're in the thick of things, we figure out how we really would handle things.
Anyway, again, it's fine for anyone to disagree, these are just my thoughts on that one aspect. The only point of my post was to offer my opinion on it, no more and no less.

And... It'd actually be great if Troy Hickman were to write something befitting his take on Statesman.

I'm not saying you are wrong for wanting a better and more dignified and/or deeper handling of Statesman. I've not read many of the CoH works, but I've often heard the exact sentiments that you've mentioned about Statesman's character portrayal and Hickman's being the only one of great interest/depth.
In a way, I'd say that the real Statesman is the one found outside of Hickman's work. Meaning ZERO disrespect to Hickman (hi, Troy... I think it has been three times I've said your name now! How are the pants?). In fact, I feel that comment is with complete RESPECT towards Mr. Hickman's work in that he actually got a lot of people relating to or buying into Statesman... where-as, most everyone else seemingly has not.
Sadly, that cardboard character is the one who lived and the one who died. Hickman's was just one who we were fortunate enough to experience for a brief time.
Still, perhaps that Statesman deserves a rightful end as well.

I cannot, personally, place Statesman in any category such as that of Batman and Phantom, but that's easy for me to say since I was never into Statesman.

I do get people's gripe, but it is their show. And when I said that, I didn't just mean being a VIP. I'll still play through the rest of the arc just the same as I played through it up to now.

I wasn't for Statesman dying and I'm not against them killing off Emmirt's characters for whatever reason that they desire.

What's my point? I'm not sure, but if I have one, it could be in this post somewhere...

Huh... and the 'oft requested' zone that they are revamping next... Huh, people do actually complain about Independence Port... I hadn't even considered it, myself.

Hmmmmm...

Yeah, I think the combination of all said factors makes it an okay maneuver in my book.
I can imagine it is somewhat like running a gaming campaign and one of the original guys, who was a brash, pain-in-the-neck had the super duperest of all the characters and, since he left, you've had that same character remaining as the head honcho. That could get old pretty fast.

I don't know... as a complete outsider to any of that (And I was not here when Jack was here and I was busy with other things and really didn't know anything about what he was like or anything), I never truly related Statesman to Jack (other than I knew he used it as his forum handle).
As much as players have pointed to solid reasons for negativity towards the person... it is possible that it may have been worse to have actually known him, hehe.
Maybe it wasn't even that bad, but it still is the lovechild character of the guy that ditched this game to make a Marvel game... no, fine, a Champions Online game... and then talked a big game about it and used some underhanded methods (if anyone recalls that stuff) to spread word about his game and negativity against CoH. *shrugs*
Peoples is peoples.
I'm not going to say it is petty of anyone at CoH if any of those reasons are behind them killing off the character.
It's their show and I'm still watchin'!