Powerset Suggestion: Electric Impulse
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Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2012-03-02 11:03 in Suggestions and Ideas
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We don't? What happened to Electric Control? Cuz it sure looks like an electric themed support set to me.|
Originally Posted by William_Valence
One set we don't have yet is an electric themed support set. So, I think it's time to suggest one.
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Electric Fence 1 Ranged, Moderate DoT(Energy), Foe Immobilize, -End, -Fly, -Knockback
Tesla Cage 1 Ranged, Moderate DMG(Energy), Foe Hold, -End
Chain Fences 2 Ranged AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Immobilize, -End, -Fly
Jolting Chain 6 Ranged Chain AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Knockdown, -End
Conductive Aura 8 Toggle: PBAoE, Foe -End, Self +Rec, +Regen
Static Field 12 Target (Location AoE), Foe Sleep, -End
Paralyzing Blast 18 Ranged AoE, Foe Hold, -End
Synaptic Overload 26 Ranged Chain AoE, Foe Confuse, -End
Gremlins 32 Summon Gremlins: Melee Minor DMG(Energy)
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That's a control set. Most people use "support set" to mean "Defender primary, troller/corr/MM secondary", or "buff/debuff set".
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
We don't? What happened to Electric Control? Cuz it sure looks like an electric themed support set to me.
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That would be a CONTROL set. The OP is talking about an electric-based buff/debuff set. You know, the sets that are used to show an AT's "Support" ability in the AT's description area. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
We don't? What happened to Electric Control? Cuz it sure looks like an electric themed support set to me.
Electric Fence 1 Ranged, Moderate DoT(Energy), Foe Immobilize, -End, -Fly, -Knockback Tesla Cage 1 Ranged, Moderate DMG(Energy), Foe Hold, -End Chain Fences 2 Ranged AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Immobilize, -End, -Fly Jolting Chain 6 Ranged Chain AoE, Minor DMG(Energy), Foe Knockdown, -End Conductive Aura 8 Toggle: PBAoE, Foe -End, Self +Rec, +Regen Static Field 12 Target (Location AoE), Foe Sleep, -End Paralyzing Blast 18 Ranged AoE, Foe Hold, -End Synaptic Overload 26 Ranged Chain AoE, Foe Confuse, -End Gremlins 32 Summon Gremlins: Melee Minor DMG(Energy) |
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Okay. I just always thought Controllers and their sets were support characters. My bad.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
That would be a CONTROL set. The OP is talking about an electric-based buff/debuff set. You know, the sets that are used to show an AT's "Support" ability in the AT's description area.
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Yes, Controllers are a support AT, but that was CLEARLY not what the OP was asking for, which you would have seen if you had read the actual OP.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Okay. I just always thought Controllers and their sets were support characters. My bad.
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"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
Oooh, interesting take on the gimmick for an Electric Support set.
I am all for filling the last niche left without a pure electric set!
However...
I could be wrong, because I'm not all that in-the-know about these things, but I am not sure, coding-wise, that a singe power could differentiate enemy and ally in these ways that you have suggested.
Far be it from me to say that it cannot, but I'd be interested to hear!
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Single target powers can differentiate between enemy and ally, such as the "Arrows of Romance" which has different effects depending upon whom you're targeting.|
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Oooh, interesting take on the gimmick for an Electric Support set.
I am all for filling the last niche left without a pure electric set! However... I could be wrong, because I'm not all that in-the-know about these things, but I am not sure, coding-wise, that a singe power could differentiate enemy and ally in these ways that you have suggested. Far be it from me to say that it cannot, but I'd be interested to hear! |
However, I'll agree that I don't think AoE powers can do that.
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I think it could, but not in a dynamic way. If it is a targeted AoE and hits an enemy, than it would be enemy affecting, and vice versa. But a PBAoE? I think that needs to be one or the other. I don't think a single targeted AoE could impact both friends and enemies differently though either. Not sure.|
Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
However, I'll agree that I don't think AoE powers can do that.
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Also, I really think that making ALL of the powers be able to have differential effects on enemies/allies is a bit overpowered. I think that, like Time, certain powers should be Buff and others should be Debuffs.
I believe that Trickshooter had an idea for an Magnetic-based Set, which this reminded me of...
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I was only commenting that I thought that Electric Control fit the role of a electric themed support power set. |
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Yes, Controllers are a support AT, but that was CLEARLY not what the OP was asking for, which you would have seen if you had read the actual OP.
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For all I know he never bought GR, or maybe he's a Prem that doesn't have access to controllers, or maybe he simply forgot about it.
Wait. I just remembered seeing him post earlier today in the comic hero/villain culture do he's a VIP. My bad for having a faulty memory.
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I've always wanted a set that did one thing to friends and another to foes, and with these arrows from the Valentines event the devs will never shut me up until I get one. |
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Oooh, interesting take on the gimmick for an Electric Support set.
I am all for filling the last niche left without a pure electric set! However... I could be wrong, because I'm not all that in-the-know about these things, but I am not sure, coding-wise, that a singe power could differentiate enemy and ally in these ways that you have suggested. Far be it from me to say that it cannot, but I'd be interested to hear! |
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
I think it could, but not in a dynamic way. If it is a targeted AoE and hits an enemy, than it would be enemy affecting, and vice versa. But a PBAoE? I think that needs to be one or the other. I don't think a single targeted AoE could impact both friends and enemies differently though either. Not sure.
Also, I really think that making ALL of the powers be able to have differential effects on enemies/allies is a bit overpowered. I think that, like Time, certain powers should be Buff and others should be Debuffs. |
Also, having all the powers effect enemies or allies is why many of them only do charged unless the target is already charged. Use Conductor against a group, and the first tic just charges them. Same for using Static Discharge. Having to build up levels of charged to unlock effects is an attempt to balance the ally and enemy effect. It's also why Jolting charge is the only AoE with the ability to stack charged in an AoE form.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I was only commenting that I thought that Electric Control fit the role of a electric themed support power set.
For all I know he never bought GR, or maybe he's a Prem that doesn't have access to controllers, or maybe he simply forgot about it. Wait. I just remembered seeing him post earlier today in the comic hero/villain culture do he's a VIP. My bad for having a faulty memory. |
What'dya think of the set?
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The power names sound interesting, but I've never been one for numbers or percentages, I leave that to the people that enjoy figuring those things out. What attracts me to a power set is if the animations look awesome. |
Originally Posted by William_Valence
I know Electric Control, I just thought it didn't count under the standard definition of a Support set. Either way, its all groovy.
What'dya think of the set? |
Some I'm having trouble picturing and others I can imagine looking pretty cool.
Like Defibrillate - I picture the character kneeling beside a downed ally, reaching out his hand and BZZZT!!! the ally is shocked back to life.
I could see the Static Prison or the attacks using hand gesture similar to the ones used by the Electricity mutant Brendon on Mutant X.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I could see the Static Prison or the attacks using hand gesture similar to the ones used by the Electricity mutant Brendon on Mutant X.
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Also, I've been hankering for an Electic Buff/Debuff set for a while now (As well as an Earth/Stone Buff/Debuff set as well. I'm big on the synergy) so this gets a thumbs up from me.
Personally, I'd like an electric set where it deals closer to the actual damage it'd do to a human being compared to what fire would do.
In every game I've seen, fire does more damage than electric/lightning, which kinda ticks me off.
One set we don't have yet is an electric themed support set. So, I think it's time to suggest one.
Powerset: Electric Impulse
"Gimmik": Powers both buff and debuff, has unique "Charged" mechanic
Charged: Is an effect similar to Time's Delayed and Accelerated that buffs the defense and resistance of allies (think 2.5% and 5% per stack on a controller) while debuffing enemy defense and resistance (4% and 7.5% per stack on a controller). The primary effect of most powers is to Apply charged, and other effects are unlocked if the power hits a charged target.
Buff and Debuff: All powers can effect allies and enemies, with different effects depending on the target.
This power is a bread and butter power, so it has an effect regardless of Charged status of the target. I would see this power having a 30s recharge time.
This would be a 60s/120s dur/rech type power along the lines of forge and fortitude.
Murphys Military Law
#23. Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy other people to shoot at.
#46. If you can't remember, the Claymore is pointed towards you.
#54. Killing for peace is like screwing for virginity.