DitzyBlonde

7 veats and a /kin.

Who are you kidding? There were 4 people there. Great turn of phrase there, Psy!!!

^^^^^^This....

To be honest the above statement is why I suggested something like the League be rekindled. Players were given an opportunity to get a firsthand feel for how competitive ladder teams worked. Complete with practices(to include basice strategies @JoeQPlayer never even knew were common pvp practice).Add counterlineups etc etc etc. Things that@JoeQ would never put in the equasion in a pvp environment were put into practice.Experience in a solid team environment is a great way to learn the ropes.

The League of the past wasn't the place for killer competitiveness and epeen flashes. Although toward the end there were some pretty hairy, hella fun matches. Some fun rivalries too!!A draft League like the original( yea that quote in the topic header is is my post) is to revisit the spirit of comraderie in that first League and hopefully recruit some new pvp players to the fun that can be had rather than leave the bully on the playground attitude that seems to pervade most of the populace and turn them off to even trying.

There are alot of great people in the pvp communitee. Share that . Be open to running a team with a few newies.Look at it as a fun time and also seperating wheat from chafe. The good ones will stick around and those that dont get it will go on their way( but hopefully with a more positive outlook and better understanding of current pvp). Either way its a 'win win". More blood for the competitive ladder soon( the wheat) and more people promoting pvp rather than trashing it(the chafe).

Edited to add: Educated chafe in zones will also enhance that play for everyone.

One more thing. I am no pvp Goddess. I have,however, witnessed first hand the highpoints of pvp(yay!) and it's devolution (argh ;(!!!!)in this game over the years.We have what we have now . Let's make the best of whats left and put our feet forward.

I don't even know if shooting for 8v8 is halfway to balanced with the current incantation.On one hand smaller rosters are needed to field a lineup. So the league could actually be viable with fewer Captains and smaller overall rosters. Thatsa positive.I am not the numbers guru. I do know that even if it was a huge pain to get going last time around. Alot of players had fun participating and did stick on test and find a spot in the competitive ladder as a result of the draft league.Just sayin......

Noone seems interested in Captaining at this point so I guess a "draft league" like was run before is a pipe dream.

edited to add: We have a week of free transfer left. I dont think designating Freedom as the home of the Draft League( if it ever gets going) is an unreal or biased choice.All players can move ONE( or 2 or 3) pvp character over for free if they want to participate.It's also alot easier to get to 50 these days than it used to be.Gear is a semi issue but not so much if you think about all the various dr's these days.On an aside.. I don't think the developers ever wanted the testserver to be home for competitive pvp.It's up to you guys//gals to fix that and go forward. Freedom is as good a place as any.

edited: I answered my own question with the second readthrough. My apologies.

I would lose fighting and invisible pools and focus on your main power pools. You didnt post your typical attack chain. Any toon needs a solid chain and by taking too many auxilliaries early you may be undercutting the potential performance.You have your travel picked and definitely need fitness. Flesh out your primaries and pick more auxilliary powers when you've leveled a bit more.

Philly answered your question on page1, Lucky. This event is a PVPEC event and the same exact event is being held crosserver with the same exact format.The particular format is one that was chosen for THIS event. That's all.

To add to more info for your question.. Anyone willing to volunteer time can join Pvpec. A common misconception by the playerbase is that Pvpec reps are some sort of elite pvp'ers who were indoctrined into the VOLUNTEER COMMITEE based on pvp knowledge and//or prowess. That is an incorrect ASSumption that is often made( no offense Pvpec reps).Most of the time it is comprised of players willing to volunteer time and effort to promote pvp in the game. Sometimes reps have alot of experience and sometimes they do not.Like I said it's a VOLUNTEER commitee that any player can join no matter level of experience in pvp. Pvpec runs many different types ofevents with many different types of rules with the hopes of garnering more INTEREST for PVP in general.That's why you get an event like this one with a certain ruleset and maybe next month there will be an event with a completely different ruleset.The purpose of Pvpec is to run events that put pvp on the foreront and get more players interested.

tl;dr version^^^

In short. If the rules of this event aren't something that looks fun to you( understood you) chances are the next event or even the one after that one might be more appealing.<3

Edited to add a link on where to find out more about Pvpec:



http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=200926

http://pvpec.guildportal.com/Guild.a...&TabID=1463928

Looks like the Pvpec site is pretty out of date but the committee statement etc are there. Happy reading!!!

Edited once more to add these in case you dont feel like searching the site:

The PVPEC is a group of dedicated City of Heroes/City of Villains players formed for the purpose of promoting increased PvP interest and participation across the game as a whole. The aim of this group is to provide high quality player-driven content to the game community in such a way as to bring PvP to a greater audience, as well as retaining its current constituency.
The PvPEC has three primary goals:

1) To retain a currently diminishing population of dedicated PvP players by providing incentive to keep them interested in City of Heroes/City of Villains PvP.

2) To increase PvP interest in the casual and new player by providing an introduction and educational opportunities on the distinctions between the PvP system and the rest of the game, as well as providing incentive for participating in that portion of the game.

3) To bridge the gap between PvP play and PvE play through storylines that attempt to seamlessly integrate established PvP habits, trends and activites into the extant City of Heroes/City of Villains mythos, with the goal of making PvP meaningful in a world-advancing way.

The overall mission of the PvPEC is to supplement the available resources allotted to PvP development, events, and QoL in the PvP environment with additional player-generated input, organization and effort.


^^ thats the mission statement. As far as who can be in Pvpec check the first link to CriticalKat's thread. Hope this helped. Cheers!

edited again to say : Sorry to threadjack an event thread ;(. I just thought the above info might help clear the air and promote directing the thread back on topic. Then again? I'm a Ditz, ya know? Hope the event is a great success and lots of fun!

There's always forum pvp for the bored.

I'm not mad, ya big goof! Just lighting a fire to get something off the ground before free transfers expire. I don't care if it's pvpec or my Mom. It's time to get this ball rolling. If the ball won't roll and has to be analyzed to death then pvp in this game really is dead and the crashcart won't help.

**** you and your "wall of text " comment . Maybe get over yourself and your Pvpec affiliation?

The rules for the newie league need to be the same as the ladder league.Simple.

Noone needs Pvpec for anything. If players take it upon themselves they can do more then Pvpec ever did.

The mistakes made in the past should not be revisited, imho.If Pvpec is on to a new age. Gratz. There is a reason players say "LolPvpec" and it ain't" hot air".

Please refer to the other thread for my response to ^^^^^^ that.

Many moons ago there was something called the TpvpL on test server. I might have the name wrong but thats neither here nor there.Anyway the test pvp people formed a temp league in order to get some new blood and expand the official ladder.Basically, a few seasoned people volunteered to be Captains in a league based on open draft.It ended up being pretty big.With the amount of zone pvp that happens on Freedom I betcha this is doable again.The key is getting 5-10 seasoned fella's to volunteer to head up the teams.Basically, establish the Captains to have an idea of the amount of teams. Issue a signup thread for a draft pool.Everyone signs up in that pool...... the seasoned players who are not Captains and also any player(not seasoned) with an interest in participating. Sign up includes global name and a list of their pvp viable AT's.Put a time limit on signups and be specific about there being practice schedules as well as matches.Let players know that they are entering a team for a league and practices are important and mandatory for participation.

The Captains met in vent for the "draft' and established the teams. I think they used s system like NFL draft picks to set teams. Each team was a mix of expert,mediocre and novice. Every Captain could pick up buddies in the draft but they also tried to somewhat balance the teams.Teams got posted in the thread and off it went. Some of the Captains did temp websites for team practice schedules etc. Voice com was a must.I think the league ran for about 6 weeks.... 2 weeks for practices and then a month with the weekly matches.

The thing to remember here is the point of doing something like this is to help players make the transition from zone pvping to arena pvping.I cannot remember who was the main organizer.. I want to say Johnny(something thats on the tip of my tongue).

Anyway? You keep the official ladder seperate and start something like the above to GET MORE people interested in arena. You tell people about it and encourage that guy who says" I love pvp but am not good enough for arena" to join up and see what its all about.There is also the added benefit to scope out new talent for the officials and expand those team rosters.

Yea... it sounds like a pain in the *** to get going but the longterm benefits to the official ladder might be worth hosting something like this again.

I KNOW some of y'all remember this league even if it happenned 2-3 years ago!

Edited to add: Ok...... who volunteers to be a Captain?

You know guy//gals? You are all being really silly.Hell... schedule back to back hami's and leave be.Ummmmmmm.... whats that word.......... Sec.. I need websters!!!!!... C O O P E R A T I O N!
Hope I spelled it right...

I don't deserve to be in that thank you. All I did was bring was bring in some extra eoe(just in case) and be a floating buffer. I was not involved in the planning or leadership in any manner. Take out the Southern up there and add TopDoc and Conflict.

I would like to echo Leandro's thank you to all of the Justice raiders and especially the players taking time to help other servers during the free transfer period.You guys //gals are the best! Maybe that's why Justice hami's are so great and frequently run? Thanks!

You arent playing a real dominator. You are playing a watered down blaster and a wannabe troller hybrid.