Deus_Otiosus

The entire marketeering populace appreciates that.

The best help I can give you is to tell you to wait until the EA revamp to plan a build, since several of the powers might have new ways to be slotted.

My NW, which is the closest thing I have to an SR character outside of a few /SD builds, deals with both of those situations with inspiration use.

As Arcana explained once you are at, or near, the softcap 1 luck will put you (close to) the Incarnate Trial softcap (you need 46.5% DEF in order to hit 59).

The reason you feel like you need Elude to survive is because your current build only has 33% Melee/Ranged.


So you're kind of caught in a catch 22 here, you don't want to give up elude or other powers in order to reach the softcap - but you are holding onto elude because of the additional damage you take due to not being softcapped.

Now obviously the trial softcap (59%) brings a new element to this, but if my NW with 1500 HP can solo on the Lambda split phase using a bagful of lucks - I see no reason your /SR couldn't either.




I'm not sure off hand how many of the IDF -end/-recovery powers are auto-hit (or if any of them are) - but generally speaking, being softcapped in the first place will help you avoid a heap of debuff effects across the entire game, simply because they never hit you in the first place.

All you have to do is log out there, don't be a wuss!!

Aside from always buying a fresh Jet Pack - I usually keep the Traveler's Jet Pack from the Day Job as a back up. Fully recharged it grants 30 minutes of flight.

That's usually enough to finish whatever activity you're doing if your standard Jet Pack runs out.

Maybe they drew inspiration from the PANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKEPANCAKE pancake bunny.

Yeah that should be fun, with both of those powers and staying within 8 feet of each other for Phalanx Fighting (the shorter radius of the two) you are looking at little over 10% DEF to all even unslotted.

CJ is one of the powers that I felt is a non-negotiable power choice for a melee character.

Chad felt it was one of the things that he would sacrifice, but for me I simply couldn't imagine the loss of mobility.


In fact I take CJ on my ranged characters as well and prefer it heavily to hover.

I'm glad you found some new ideas that you like.


The reason most of us skipped it is because SR is one of the few sets that really doesn't need DA - at which point it just becomes a drain on your DPS.

For the same reasons you do not need DA, I would also highly recommend you reconsider Elude.

For now try out some new slotting, hopefully with at least softcapped Melee & Ranged - and then you might feel less need to keep Elude at that point.

I have a dual build NW (melee) / Fort (ranged) - and I have finally given up on the fort half.

The controls are control-lite in my opinion. They are nice, but they are not controller or dominator level of control.

The buffs are excellent, but I can get that from the NW side, or any VEAT build for that matter, the same goes for the survival and mez protection.

Survivability wise, when caught alone I find my NW is actually doing better in trials due to simply killing targets faster.

The only thing that the Fort has that I wish the NW had is Psy Shockwave.

Which is why I will either abandon the Fort build entirely or merge the two into a high end melee Fort build.

Yeah back to back Power surge with powersink to leverage it was the first thing that came to my mind.

But a once per hour cool down will most likely see me skip it, especially considering how tight most of my builds already are.

I cut more than Arcana did, but now that you are softcapped you have no real need of Elude.

I imagine you would be able to grab musculature with this, or you could grab Cardiac and be more aggressive with Achillies' Heel procs, damage procs, etc.

Accolades should be turned on, with your badge count I assume you have them.

I think you should post your build, and just set some rules like "X power is non-negotiable". I have supreme faith that this sub-forum will get you softcapped, tonnes of recharge and let you keep a good chunk of your concept powers.


And...HOLY BADGES CHAD-MAN!!

I still think we could get you softcapped without those, but it would be a bit of a pain without somewhere to tuck the steadfast unique (it can be done, but most likely at the cost of rech).

Although I would ask, honestly, what it is that you have in place of tough and weave that you feel is more important.

Those two powers are basically a given on any melee build I work out for myself.


I think the reason most of us disagree with this, is because you can have both softcapped defenses, as well as a ton of rech on SR.

There is no need to give up one for the other.

In fact, you can have both of those as well as good slotting for other build needs like recovery, +damage, etc.


Double XP baby, it's right around the corner.

I think most people just didn't agree that it costs a ton, or requires sacrifices.

If you are playing on just SOs, I don't think 39% makes you an idiot.

However if you have any plans to use IO sets at all, it is so easy to softcap SR that it seems a huge waste not to.

This is major sadface Zwill.

Can you please ask the devs if the day will ever come when we can stop paying a power slot tax for Tough and Weave (very useful) by having to buy Boxing first (nearly useless, unless you set mule it)?

It is.



It's very similar to what SD does for scrappers - which is push their AoE and ST DPS several magnitudes above other sets - barring a few exceptional cases like DB.

Appropriately built scrappers, and even night widows, can solo AVs.

Its a shame too, redraw is one of the major things that constantly keeps me away from playing weapon sets. (I have a couple, but there are more I would play if this wasn't an issue).

At any level/build cost its an annoyance, especially for sets with ponderous redraw (like Warmace, BA, etc).

At the high end, you are basically accepting a penalty if you want to use secondary/power/epic/patron pool powers.

Here is the part where you said something that was just completely dumb.

You brought survivability into the issue, its not my fault you cant seem to keep track of the conversation beyond 2 or 3 posts.


Here's more dumb stuff from a few posts ago:


To which I replied that since the SD Brute, who is hopefully not being played by a mentally incompetent sub-human primate, would also have softcapped their character and would then be more survivable.

I'd go through the laundry list of options why, but I think you'll just ignore it.


Regardless, I made it stand out so you wouldn't miss it this time.

Crits are one of the prime components of Scrapper DPS.



And I did not say softcap doesn't matter, I said it's not the end of the conversation on mitigation.

Take your softcapped Scrapper vs. an equivalent softcapped Bute, who also has darkest night, and 12% more HP and a better heal in Siphon Life and with OWTS + 1 T2 Orange can cap SM/L resistances at 90% with HP now at 2600-2800 vs the Scrappers cap at 2400 - and then tell me which is more survivable.

Like I said, pretending an advantage isn't there, doesn't make it true.

I'm not convinced straight DPS calculations from excel sheets or pylons will see the scrapper doing exactly that.

The Scrapper, while it does do better DPS at the top end, gets those DPS numbers from critical which average out over time to increase the overall DPS.

You can't count on criticals to go off when you want vs. standard enemies and there are a fair number of times my Scrappers simply "waste" some of that damage on something that was nearly dead anyway.

However ST DPS is still in favor of the scrapper, but pre-incarnates I was getting about 250 DPS on my Brute vs. the 300 or so the top Scrapper builds were getting.

Which is a 20% DPS advantage in favor of the Scrapper (extremely large) and while the advantage in survivability does go to the Brute I don't feel the Brute is 20% more survivable (just guessing in the dark here).

This is also build dependent and perhaps my attack chain and slotting were not the best, Dielan's chain looks to be better than mine so I'm working on incorporating that.


I think SD for Brutes should be reconsidered, but it will not happen. Brutes should not get the crummy Tanker version of AAO while also getting the comparatively crummier Scrapper Def & Res numbers.

This follows the pattern for all Brute primaries and secondaries, but SD is a special case where I don't think it works out very well.




That's just an anecdoote unfortunately and doesn't tellus anything about either build.

I've been on lambdas where my Fire/Rad corr with no resistances and 1500 HP has out-survived entire teams of scrappers, brutes and tankers and gone on to complete container/crate objectives solo - this doesn't automatically mean a softcapped Corr is as tough as any of them.

The Brute is clearly more survivable, you can pretend if you like that 12% HP is not more, and you can pretend that more regen is not more and you can pretend that darkest night does not add to survivability - but that doesn't suddenly make any of those things true.

Softcapped defenses are amazing, they also are not the be all and end all of mitigation - inevitably you will get hit.


I agree on SC nerf.

The Scrapper version needed the biggest nerfing and was the biggest offender, and then they cut the Brute version down too far in the process.

They reduced the Brute damage scale for SC too far IMO and then forgot about how Fury interacts with the Pseudopet - or simply didn't care.




From the patch notes: