Dechs Kaison

65:35 will boil down to 13:7, which is a terribly outrageous number when it comes to doing the math. I should have picked something cleaner.

Regardless, what 13:7 means is that for every 7 units bet, you'll get 13 returned, plus what you put down. That's if you're betting that they do get Dark Regeneration.

If you were to bet 500m that Blasters get Dark Regen, you'd stand to win 500m*(13/7)+500m, which is over 1.4 billion.

From what I understand, you intend to bet against the Dark Regeneration inclusion, so it's the reverse. Every 13 units bet will return 7, plus what you put down. So if you win, you'd get 500m*(7/13)+500m = 769m and some change.



In case anyone hasn't noticed, these odds do not favor me at all since I'm effectively offering 100% pay out. If the same amount is bet on both sides, then everything that paid in will pay back out. Were I truly a bookie, I'd have given much different odds. Say a 2:1 payout if you bet for Dark Regen, but a 1:5 if you bet against. That way I would be more likely to walk away with a cut of the pot. As it stands, the only way I can win is if the winning side has less money bet on it than the other.

Ah well. This will still be fun.

So you're in, too? For just 100m or will you be betting more?

Excellent. I'll conduct the whole thing through email, that should be easiest.

Great, I'll put you down for 100m against. Unless you'd like to play with more?

Thank you so much.

Do you happen to know if that persists after you logout?

If it's played and slotted well, yes, that is correct.

Tohit debuffs are as common as end drain or less. The reduced tohit of attacking higher level mobs is negligible with even minor accuracy enhancement.

It actually doesn't matter what AT we compare it on, as the modifiers within the ATs will keep things proportional. I have a more recent Claws/DA brute, who is on the same budget as my tank, which includes using only SOs until level 37. He has considerably less defense and resistance, but I dare say the two are equal in survival, thanks in no small part to the extra damage of Fury and mitigation through Shockwave. With but a small purple inspiration, the brute was able to solo one of the Pylons in an Apex TF. My tank had trouble with that, even with a few red inspirations.

EDIT to address:

Perhaps it isn't, but the thread has already served its purpose. The suggestion is not something that's possible with the way the powers were coded.

Fair enough.

I am.

But to make you happy, let's compare a DA tank on SOs with no tohit to an invuln or shield tank on SOs without endurance.

I can handle that. Assuming that I can't click on an insight, basically do the math without Dark Regeneration. I've still got as much defense and more resistance than most other sets, coming out ahead.

How about you do the math on those other sets when they have been drained of their endurance?

You have no one to blame but yourself. You threw out that comment specifically to egg me on. Consider me egged.

Now would you like to back up your claim that I'm leaving out variables or are we going to dance around this for another few replies?

Awwww, do you need a band-aid? Mommy kiss your bruised ego make it all better?

Hang on, you don't need IOs to be The MFing Warshade. I've clearly stated as much in my guide.

Only if it doesn't have sprinkles.

Just put it in your DVD-ROM tray and email it to me. Thanks.

Clearly with the same awesome mental powers that allow someone to use dark armor effectively.

And are still the lowest performing melee AT in all quantifiable ways.

Yeah, I totally understand it. I've played an /EA stalker (second biggest mistake of my life) and followed very closely to that idea.

My justification is that "Hide" isn't a part of the stalkers defenses. It's just what a stalker is: a very hard to see person. Whether he dodges lots of things or protects himself with energy, he's still hard to see.

My big issue is that if a Stalker can hide while using powers that usually make you glow like a light bulb, they sure as hell can hide with a shield on their arm.

Fix'd.

And no, it doesn't help.

Another good example is Siphon Life for Dark Melee. It used to be a weak attack that did a moderate heal. As such, it was mostly slotted as a heal, if at all.

They changed it by adding a heap of damage to it, which turned it into a viable part of an attack chain. Indeed, it's one of the best DPA attacks in the set now. Most people changed their slotting to accommodate the increased damage, but the heal was still there and could still be slotted just as before.