Can we ge bright versions of the darkness sets powers now please?
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Posted on: 2011-07-06 07:15 in Suggestions and Ideas
And I think some of the Dark powers already have 'bright' options in their Patron versions from Ghost Widow.
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Originally Posted by reiella
Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right
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See also: Stone and Ice sets. These are only color tintable and do not have bright/dark options. This is due to how the powers are animated; they have effects which can be colored. Powers like Fire or Electricity are done differently at their base, and the colors are done with either additive or subtractive light mixtures.
i.e. There can not be a light/dark option for powers that are color tintable.
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Like I needed more reasons to hate dark armor.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
See also: Stone and Ice sets. These are only color tintable and do not have bright/dark options. This is due to how the powers are animated; they have effects which can be colored. Powers like Fire or Electricity are done differently at their base, and the colors are done with either additive or subtractive light mixtures.
i.e. There can not be a light/dark option for powers that are color tintable. |
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Uh, how did you do that? 
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Clearly with the same awesome mental powers that allow someone to use dark armor effectively.
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Originally Posted by Haetron
Uh, how did you do that?
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Now that CoH:Freedom means there is no longer such a thing as a Heroic AT or Villainous AT, can we have bright colors for Pain now, or will you port Empathy to MMs so that there can be truly heroic MMs if the player wishes to role-play as such?
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Clearly with the same awesome mental powers that allow someone to use dark armor effectively.
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Originally Posted by Haetron
You want a cookie?
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Just put it in your DVD-ROM tray and email it to me. Thanks.
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I'll get right on it after I finish soft capping my resistance set's defenses with IO's and then proclaiming said set the greatest thing ever and completely glossing over that soft capping defense, well, makes just about everything great.
Oh, I also have to make that video showcasing how awesome I am against the villain groups said set is naturally strong against.
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Awwww, do you need a band-aid? Mommy kiss your bruised ego make it all better?
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Originally Posted by Haetron
I'll get right on it after I finish soft capping my resistance set's defenses with IO's and then proclaiming said set the greatest thing ever and completely glossing over that soft capping defense, well, makes just about everything great.
Oh, I also have to make that video showcasing how awesome I am against the villain groups said set is naturally strong against. |
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D'aww. It's so sweet!
You need to get over this infatuation with my dislike of dark armor and realize people can have different opinions, and -MATH- doesn't solve everything, especially when you randomly leave out variables.
Edit: Wait, it's not really random. You just refuse to admit the existence of variables that could weaken your argument.
Look closely at this thread. Who brought up Dark Armor to begin with?
Hell, I'll throw you the bone anyway. What variables are you referring to?
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Oh geez, I did.
I mentioned I didn't like Dark Armor and you came hurtling through like Pavlov's dog.
Which would be why I suggested you get over your infatuation with my dislike of the set.
Annnd this thread is derailed. Good job Dechs.
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Originally Posted by Haetron
Annnd this thread is derailed. Good job Dechs.
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Now would you like to back up your claim that I'm leaving out variables or are we going to dance around this for another few replies?
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*gets popcorn*
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Originally Posted by reiella
Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right
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using the colors in the center of the color choices produces brightly colored clouds...I'm partial to orange because I like the gold look|
Originally Posted by Haetron
Uh, how did you do that?
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I have a similar coloring for my character Endcaller Mara, dark/elec fender, for when she's being especially religious
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"Notice at the end, there: Arcanaville did the math and KICKED IT INTO EXISTENCE." - Ironik on the power of Arcanaville's math
the three things I'd suggest:
a) allow customization that removes the screaming faces from the cloak of fear...I know we can't remove it from the affected targets since that's the fear icon, but would be nice if we could remove it from the character aura
b) allow white/silver colors on the tintable choices
c) allow coloration of the dark shield in shield defense (also allow a dark shield that doesn't have the faces...call it a smoke shield or something)
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"Notice at the end, there: Arcanaville did the math and KICKED IT INTO EXISTENCE." - Ironik on the power of Arcanaville's math
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
You have no one to blame but yourself. You threw out that comment specifically to egg me on. Consider me egged.
Now would you like to back up your claim that I'm leaving out variables or are we going to dance around this for another few replies? |
You over-estimate my opinion of you or just how much weight anything you say has with me. I said that comment because it's another reason I have to dislike dark armor.
Trust me, if I wanted to "egg you on", everyone would know it.
And I've said before, every math simulation I've seen completely discounts the impact of accuracy and possible to-hit debuffs and the negative impact they have on dark armor that barely affects other sets. Of course, last time I tried mentioning this.. I got this as a reply.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I've got an independently developed survivability analysis tool myself. Numerous others do as well. I've seen the math, I've done the math, and I don't feel like doing it again just for you. If you want to find the threads you can go search for them.
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And thanks Lycanus, Ill play with the coloration some more. I was specifically speaking of that bright sunburst body shape in the bottom middle. Haven't been able to get anything near it myself. I've mostly been trying to make something that matches up with default energy fists however though.
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Originally Posted by Lycanus
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Seconded. My Demons/Pain MM isn't even a hero, and I'd still like the bright version for her pain powers to make them look more like psionic abilities (she's a Carnie).
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Now that CoH:Freedom means there is no longer such a thing as a Heroic AT or Villainous AT, can we have bright colors for Pain now, or will you port Empathy to MMs so that there can be truly heroic MMs if the player wishes to role-play as such?
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I can handle that. Assuming that I can't click on an insight, basically do the math without Dark Regeneration. I've still got as much defense and more resistance than most other sets, coming out ahead.|
Originally Posted by Haetron
And I've said before, every math simulation I've seen completely discounts the impact of accuracy and possible to-hit debuffs and the negative impact they have on dark armor that barely affects other sets.
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How about you do the math on those other sets when they have been drained of their endurance?
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Originally Posted by Haetron
And thanks Lycanus, Ill play with the coloration some more. I was specifically speaking of that bright sunburst body shape in the bottom middle. Haven't been able to get anything near it myself. I've mostly been trying to make something that matches up with default energy fists however though.
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Calico exists in two versions MA/Dark scrapper and Dark/Shield scrapper
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"Notice at the end, there: Arcanaville did the math and KICKED IT INTO EXISTENCE." - Ironik on the power of Arcanaville's math
It would just be nice to have alternate colorings avalable for these powers. They seem to be the -only- customizable powers that haven't been giving the bright/dark option treatment.
I don't really have much else to add.