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Where you debuffing him? Also I would say a couple of those spikes up and down are rage up vs rage down.

procs

You used a really bad example. 5 lotg + one other 7.5 bonus will indeed give you 6 total 7.5s. The lotg is recognized by the the game as lotg 7.5 bonus not just 7.5. For this reason its a bonus all its self.

Easily repeatable. Team in sirens, have team leader out of zone. You will recieve no bounty. It also effected pvp drops (inf and inspires) but was much more sporadic and difficult to repeat.

Drain psi got whacked pretty hard. It still gives a good end buff and a good -regen debuff, but the -recovery is laughable now.

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Got my first hero drop ever a little while ago, shield wall def/rech.

Can't believe I forgot my ice therms

The two I missed the most with the onset of i13 was my rad psy and my mind fire. Thanks to i14/i15 changes they are back. Now I would have to say my fort and fire/em. The fire em because its on my second account I canceled because of i13. Honorable mention to my ta psy. I never played it enough anyways, but man he was an awesome zone dewsh.

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Make macskull pl you.

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To get the max number of procs I can agree with. The max number of actual usable procs I still disagree with you. And I stand by the deci proc being utter garbage and a complete waste of a slot.

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It has the exact same specs as the gaussian proc.

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The gaus proc can goes in tohit powers, the deci in ranged attacks. I would say those are far from the same specs. Damage procs > bu procs, all day, everyday.

To get the max number of procs I can agree with. The max number of actual usable procs I still disagree with you. And I stand by the deci proc being utter garbage and a complete waste of a slot.

A proc going off when you aren't attacking <<<<<<<<<<< a proc going off when you are attacking. The math will back that up as well as play experience. keep thinking you are right, it won't make it true. Getting more procs going off doesn't really help you if it happens when you aren't attacking, its a pretty simple concept to get. Not sure why you are having problems understanding it.


I can't even begin to figure out how to explain to you that a damage proc is better than that deci proc. Good luck getting it to proc 10 times in a ten minute match.

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Why don't slows work in PVP? Is it because everybody has SS and there is, bizarrely, no more maxspeed, or something else?

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Those and throw on melee slow resistances and slow res ios.

Damage proc > chance for bu proc in blast. Keep thiking you have the right plan with the gaus proc in a toggle. Just dont' try to pass it off to people as a good plan for pvp. Better burst is better burst, and while it may not activate as often in aim/bu it will at least be a lot less likely to be wasted. And really do some test and tell me you are getting that much use out of it in a10 minute match. You will find your rock solid observations are a bit off.

On the nin +dam and +hp and kb protection. On the wp +dam. You will want phase on both sets. Hasten opens up super speed so there is another easy pick.



The wp is definitely the easier of the 2 to build for pvp and will be the more effective of the 2 as well.

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You should hear the fun things people say when you use powerboost, boost range, aim and TP them from an area they think they are safe. Also lots of fun to do the same to the droners on the other side of the fence. They tend to be not so tough without their drones and heavy protecting them.

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I get lots of love for tping people out the base, especially droners with my grav/elec dom Born to Drone.

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Between that and the decimation you get an addition 13.75% recharge.

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In pve yes, in pvp unless you are in the arena with a dr off not so much. Any recharge on top of hasten is pretty much overkill. The same reason you really want all 4 st attacks. Plus what solo said about having to attacks to use when mezzed.


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Uhmm you have three blank slots in hoarfrost. SO I have no idea what your proposal is.

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I have 2 post in this thread that says to 3 slot the pvpos in it for double end bonus and more kb protection. This gets you up to around 40 kb protection pre dr, which is what you need if you are fighting a toon with a good kb power.


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Tk thrust, with the kin crash set has 175% accuracy

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Kin crash as a set has about 50% acc when 6 slotted, not sure where you get 175%.


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It goes in aim for this reason. And its still better than having it in a toggle when it can proc uselessly. You have a theory for why you like it and feel free to stick with it. Won't change that for a burst build if you ever want to get max effectiveness that it should be in a click.


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I will admit I am personally heavily biased against procs in general.

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That is a play choice, but you are a really losing out in pvp not having the max number of damge procs that you can squeeze in. Procs aren't dred and still offer up unresistable damage.



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For arena matches the numbers have been better than that for me. As to when I need its whenever I am attacking.

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lol @ personal observations trumping real numbers and math.

Yes, but its secondary effect of more damage helps compensate for that.

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Just a question here:
Could someone clue me in on these Ice Damage changes I keep hearing about?

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Yeah Ice hardly slows and does crap damage now in PVP, nuff said

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Well nothing slows in PvP anymore, which is stupid, it took away the point of slow powers. Lol, but Idk, I still like it and it seems to do... semi... ok damage.

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Well, here's the thing. In old pvp ice blast had a few things going for it. One was slows, as you admit this are gutted now so it has no real secondary effect. The other change that came in was balancing damage by damage per activation. With ice's big plus in the old days being its super fast activation you can see why the damage was gutted out as well. You can still proc ice up with some impeded procs and pvp procs and get some decent performance out it. No matter what you do though it won't come anywhere close to psi/ son/ or fire/.

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1. Tk Thrust if its going to be six slotted slot the full kin crash set. This gives you 45 points of kb in that power and it will knock people

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It deserves more damage and acc than you are giving it credit for. This power is a damage power that kbs not a kb power.

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That kinda recharge does not exist in dr world of pvp, you will want all 4 st blast to be viable.


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So horribly wrong for pvp burst thinking. Should I have it in a toggle that could proc whenever or in a power that when it actually does fire off I am going to be attacking. One of those is an easy choice, the other was the way you picked.


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4. Hoarfrost unless you are going to three slot miracle use the slots elsewhere. As it is if you are going to three slot miracle might as well do it in health.

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The enhancement values for what I am suggesting in hoarfrost gives 90+ to everything it can. Plus a 2 tasty end bonuses and more kb protection.


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Wasnt going to comment on this thread as its a little close to home and that build is strange.

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Strange, but effective and good.

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actually, its not.

I have always considered doms by top priority for forge. With the changes they got recently I would say that is even more true.

Psi is the top tier pvp set now. The only set people can even put up there against it seriously is sonic, and in the end will dom + placate proc removes all doubts who the true winner is. While it would be better paired with /em for pvp and with /mm getting dp 'adjusted' in pvp it is still a workable combo. I adapted the build up thread some for more kb protection and more +dam. The blank spots in hoarfrost and ic armor are for 3 slotting the pvpo res in each. This will throw another 6 points of kb protection on while in pvp and some more +end buffs. It could still use some more tweaking but definitely a step in the right direction.


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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Psychic Blast
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Cold Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Psionic Dart

[*] (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage[*] (37) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (39) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (39) Devastation - Damage/Endurance[*] (39) HamiO:Centriole Exposure[/list]Level 1: Subdual
[*] (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage[*] (3) Devastation - Damage/Endurance[*] (3) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (5) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (5) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)[/list]Level 2: Mental Blast
[*] (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)[*] (21) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance[*] (34) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (34) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (34) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge[*] (50) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[/list]Level 4: Telekinetic Blast
[*] (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage[*] (17) Devastation - Damage/Endurance[*] (17) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (19) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (19) HamiO:Centriole Exposure[*] (21) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 6: Psychic Focus
[*] (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance[*] (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance[*] (7) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge[*] (9) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up[/list]Level 8: Will Domination
[*] (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage[*] (9) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (13) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (13) Devastation - Damage/Endurance[*] (15) HamiO:Centriole Exposure[*] (15) Fortunata Hypnosis - Chance for Placate[/list]Level 10: Hasten
[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (11) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (11) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 12: Hurdle
[*] (A) Jumping IO[/list]Level 14: Super Speed
[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[*] (40) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[/list]Level 16: Concentration
[*] (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge[*] (40) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge[*] (40) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge[/list]Level 18: Health
[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery[/list]Level 20: Stamina
[*] (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod[*] (43) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge[*] (46) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy[/list]Level 22: Drain Psyche
[*] (A) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[*] (23) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Endurance/Healing[*] (23) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Healing[*] (25) Theft of Essence - Healing/Recharge[*] (25) Theft of Essence - Healing[/list]Level 24: Combat Jumping
[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[*] (27) Karma - Knockback Protection[*] (27) Kismet - Accuracy +6%[/list]Level 26: Super Jump
[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[*] (31) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[/list]Level 28: World of Confusion
[*] (A) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance[*] (29) Coercive Persuasion - Confused[*] (29) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge[*] (31) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge[*] (31) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 30: Assault
[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 32: Tactics
[*] (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance[*] (33) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge[*] (33) Rectified Reticle - Increased Perception[*] (33) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure[/list]Level 35: Telekinetic Thrust
[*] (A) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback[*] (36) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Knockback[*] (36) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Knockback[*] (36) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Endurance[*] (37) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[*] (37) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure[/list]Level 38: Acrobatics
[*] (A) Knockback Distance IO[/list]Level 41: Flash Freeze
[*] (A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance[*] (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep[*] (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (42) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge[*] (43) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge[/list]Level 44: Hoarfrost
[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal[*] (45) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge[*] (45) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge[*] (45) Empty[*] (46) Empty[*] (46) Empty[/list]Level 47: Frozen Armor
[*] (A) Karma - Knockback Protection[*] (48) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection[*] (48) Empty[*] (48) Empty[*] (50) Empty[/list]Level 49: Hibernate
[*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod[*] (50) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl
[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Sprint
[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest
[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Defiance
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]
[*]27% DamageBuff(Smashing)[*]27% DamageBuff(Lethal)[*]27% DamageBuff(Fire)[*]27% DamageBuff(Cold)[*]27% DamageBuff(Energy)[*]27% DamageBuff(Negative)[*]27% DamageBuff(Toxic)[*]27% DamageBuff(Psionic)[*]3.13% Defense(Energy)[*]3.13% Defense(Negative)[*]6.25% Defense(Ranged)[*]1.8% Max End[*]5% Enhancement(Heal)[*]4% Enhancement(Confused)[*]30% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]15% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]10% FlySpeed[*]225.9 HP (18.7%) HitPoints[*]10% JumpHeight[*]10% JumpSpeed[*]Knockback (Mag -27)[*]Knockup (Mag -27)[*]20% Perception[*]13% (0.22 End/sec) Recovery[*]86% (4.33 HP/sec) Regeneration[*]2.5% Resistance(Smashing)[*]2.52% Resistance(Fire)[*]2.52% Resistance(Cold)[*]1.26% Resistance(Energy)[*]1.26% Resistance(Negative)[*]13% RunSpeed[/list]

Sadly my first suggestion is reroll with a better pvp primary

No toon of mine got hit harder by i13 than my ice/cold. Ice blast is pretty much the worst of it thanks to the dpa changes. And the stacked slows got gutted pretty bad as well. You can still pretty much kill a squishies recharge but it will still take a while to whittle them down. You can still get the same slows from just /cold and add a lot more offense with son/ rad/ or fire/ for a primary.