/Ninjitsu or /WP what to shoot for in PVP


ConFlict

 

Posted

Ok...

So...still tryin to decide...leaning towards willpower...however

What do you aim for with each build in PVP..

Defense?
Hit Point Cap
Resist
Phase Shift?
Hasten?

Still tryin to decide

Useful info would be apprecaited.


 

Posted

On the nin +dam and +hp and kb protection. On the wp +dam. You will want phase on both sets. Hasten opens up super speed so there is another easy pick.



The wp is definitely the easier of the 2 to build for pvp and will be the more effective of the 2 as well.


Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

Posted

I personally prefer ninjitsu, tends to live longer in the typical I15 zone, however, /WP might live longer in a more 1v1 centric arena type situation.

I tend to dislike WP becuase its more geared to BEING hit, which is, in truth, contrary to the stalkers design, but despite this, WP remains an extremely good secondary

I prefer /Nin becuase really, once your IOed out, i find that there isn't much that gives me trouble, blinding powder really does help IMO

Just my 2 cents.


 

Posted

What level KB do you want? I have 8 in the build I came up with...but Im beating my head against a wall tryin to come up with a build for both.

I loike the concept of Ninjitsu...IDK...OMG .../e shoots self

Arrggghhh

PS: any freedom PVP groups that can show me the ropes? I have several 50s ....this is my first stalker and 1st "pvp" toon


 

Posted

This is me messing with mids have NO CLUE what Im doing on a pvp build...

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg(36), Mako-Dam%(43), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 4: Danger Sense -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(5), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 8: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(11), GSFC-ToHit(11), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(37), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(21), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(23)
Level 22: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(43), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25), P'Shift-EndMod(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(27), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(29), Sciroc-Dam%(31), Erad-%Dam(36)
Level 28: Hover -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31), Zephyr-ResKB(36)
Level 30: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(33), Oblit-%Dam(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Blinding Powder -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), DefBuff-I(39)
Level 41: Dark Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(42), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Cloud-%Dam(46)
Level 44: Shadow Meld -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Flurry -- HO:Nucle(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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Should I get rid of Shadow Meld and get Phase Shift?

IDK...

what else...

GOD I cant decide

/Nin or /WP

Ninjitsu seems to have more fun toys than willpower...but wp seems less brainwork


 

Posted

This is a quick build, could drop soul storm for lightning rod, blank slot in AS is for PvP IO proc.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1: Havoc Punch FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(33), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(43), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(46), FtnHyp-Plct%(50)
Level 1: Hide LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(3), Krma-ResKB(5)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(15), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(17)
Level 4: Danger Sense LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(11), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(13)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(7), Mako-Dam%(7), T'Death-Dam%(9), Hectmb-Dam%(9), Empty(27)
Level 8: Build Up AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Placate RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Health Heal-I(A)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Stealth RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(50)
Level 22: Invisibility Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 24: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Thunder Strike Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(34), Armgdn-Dam%(34), Armgdn-Dmg(34)
Level 28: Super Speed Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(36)
Level 30: Combat Jumping Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-End%(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 35: Blinding Powder CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(37), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Conf%(43)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), GftotA-Def/Rchg(39), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Dark Blast Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apoc-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Shadow Meld LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Ksmt-Def/Rchg(46), Ksmt-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Soul Storm UbrkCons-Hold(A), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(48), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(48), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(48), UbrkCons-Dam%(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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Yeah...pvp IO...sure...let me bend over and pull a gazzilion inf outta of my rear LOL

The purples are bad enough...*sigh...Want to sell (anything) for inf PST : ASAP....ok now IM looking at stuff...mmmmm

Even more confused

I think iM just a complete pvp noob


 

Posted

Here, its a little cheaper, confuse and sleep purples aren't sell your liver expensive

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Havoc Punch FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(33), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(43), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(46), FtnHyp-Plct%(46)
Level 1: Hide LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(3), Krma-ResKB(5)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(15), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def(17)
Level 4: Danger Sense LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(5), RedFtn-Def(11), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(11), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(13)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(7), Mako-Dam%(7), T'Death-Dam%(9), P'ngS'Fest-Stun%(9), HO:Nucle(27)
Level 8: Build Up AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(31), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Hurdle Jump-I(A)
Level 12: Placate RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Health Heal-I(A)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Stealth RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal(21), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(21), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Dct'dW-Rchg(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(25)
Level 22: Invisibility Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 24: Hasten RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Thunder Strike Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Dmg(34), Erad-%Dam(43)
Level 28: Super Speed Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(36)
Level 30: Combat Jumping Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Stamina P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-End%(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 35: Blinding Powder CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(37), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Conf%(43)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu GftotA-Def/EndRdx(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), GftotA-Def/Rchg(39), GftotA-EndRdx/Rchg(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Lightning Rod Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg(42), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(46), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Dark Blast Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Shadow Meld LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(A), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), GftotA-Def/Rchg(50), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Phase Shift RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination

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Here is something I did...came up with my own ideas...how bad is it?

Also...with Assassins Shock...are the proc's REALLY worth it? I mean IDK...just wondering and I know the Hami's are stupid priced.

Dear Lord Baby Jesus please make PVP recipies drop again (like rain during a monsoon) Amen


 

Posted

Whoopsy..forgot build

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

[u]Click this DataLink to open the build![u]

Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ninjitsu
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg(36), Mako-Dam%(43), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Hide -- Krma-ResKB(A), LkGmblr-Def(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(43)
Level 2: Ninja Reflexes -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(3), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 4: Danger Sense -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(5), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg(7), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Dam%(48)
Level 8: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(11), GSFC-ToHit(11), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(37), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 12: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15)
Level 16: Kuji-In Rin -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 20: Kuji-In Sha -- Mrcl-Heal(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx(21), Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(23), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 22: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(43), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(48)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(25), P'Shift-EndMod(25), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(29), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(34), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(27), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(27), Erad-%Dam(29), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(31), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(31), Zephyr-ResKB(36)
Level 30: Stealth -- Krma-ResKB(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(33), Oblit-%Dam(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Blinding Powder -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Kuji-In Retsu -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Dark Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(42), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Cloud-%Dam(46)
Level 44: Shadow Meld -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/Rchg(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Invisibility -- Krma-ResKB(A)
Level 49: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), Empty(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Assassination



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Here is something I did...came up with my own ideas...how bad is it?

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Build is.. OK, slotting for the small +defence bonus's don't do much anymore.

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Also...with Assassins Shock...are the proc's REALLY worth it? I mean IDK...just wondering and I know the Hami's are stupid priced.

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Hamis are around 20 mil each? when i last bought them they were, the 3 put u at a pretty accuracy and damage stats, the procs simply add MORE damage, stalkers rely heavily on the AS ability, more u get into that first AS, the better off u are.


 

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Ahhhh...back to the drawing board


 

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Build for +Dam +Acc, some +recharge and some +recovery/+max end doesn't hurt, you shouldn't have trouble capping out your HP


 

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3 nuc's 3 procs, go go go!


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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3 nuc's 3 procs, go go go!

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I changed that on my stalker a lil
1 nuc, 1 A/D PvP IO, 1 damage Hecatomb, then heca proc, pvp proc, and mako proc

but that slotting was awesome for a while for me


 

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Man IM so used to slotting for PVE...now I gotta change mindset and think of pvp.../e slit wrists

I should call myself Noobtastic


 

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I should call myself Noobtastic

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Thats reserved for Submission., tru storeh


 

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Do I wanna know? LOL

I wish I could fit....Dont Hurt Me I suck...ah well