Captain-Electric

I don't mind if it's slow, I just want it to be full of interesting stories to explore. I hope it's an opportunity to take some characters through a comic book adventure more epic in scale than usual.

There is no sense (or fairness) in inflating solo rewards compared to those gained by entire leagues on Incarnate trials. You can't have it both ways and preserve internal consistency.

Ha! That would be genius.

Oh man I'm going to stop reading this thread now, I really want whatever it is to be a surprise.

That wasn't my point, and the last thing I want to do is single anyone out.

The problem is that in a thread meant to generate ideas for Superhero Packs or zones, you people are arguing. It doesn't matter what you're arguing about. Because you don't seem to be able to argue and generate ideas at the same time. So maybe you should stop arguing and go back to generating ideas.

Do you think Paragon Studios holds meetings like this? How are they supposed to take our feedback into consideration, when our feedback is emotionally charged, but otherwise completely void of substance?

Maybe the reason we can't always get what we want is because we're no good at brainstorming, coming up with ideas, and then agreeing on them. Take a look at what you folks have done with the last couple of pages.

I understand you have an axe to grind with the genre, but the purpose of this thread isn't to ask comic book fans to defend their preferences. Of all the forums in the world where a comic book fan should feel comfortable about their tastes, this ought to be among the finest. Please don't back us into the corner.

You don't seem to be contributing anything constructive.

For the rest of you, I present a challenge:

A new way of approaching this brainstorming session, and a "Stark" refutation of the notion that Paragon Studios has come anywhere near exhausting the genre. Go to your bookshelves, your drawers, your boxes, and pull out your comic books and graphic novels. Not at home? Go to Marvel.com and download their free weekly digital comic selection.

Now, open them up, and start turning the pages. Don't read, just flip. Grab a pen and paper, and when you see something that moves you, make a note about it. (And don't make notes about anything you don't like. This isn't an exercise in critical reviews.) Spend half an hour, an hour, two hours, whatever you can afford.

Then come back and post away.

Paragon Studios isn't exactly resting on their laurels, or haven't you noticed?

With all due respect to BAB, you don't undertake a resource-intensive project like the 7-part SSA epic, drag your audience through it, and then cap it off with an ending that's as inconsequential as possible. Not if you want to continue selling SSAs.

Truer words were never spoken! Well, I mean, since the last time someone said that.

CONGRATS!!! Did you follow the ages-old tradition, and walk/run from where you dinged all the way back to Ms. Liberty?

When I hit 50 it was on Peregrine Island! That was a long walk!!!

You're going to crawl under a lot of peoples skin with pretty much all of your post, but for anyone able to look past our (and their) myriad biases, the quote above hints at something else: that City of X is a superhero game with a diverse audience that transcends the superhero ethos. I know that sounds like a call for group hugs, but on the contrary, we need to remember that other games will always come along that can do fantasy or anime or furries better, as a main focus. When those games come, many (not all, but many) of City of X's "die hard fans" who aren't comic book fans will pack up their bags and leave, dissatisfied with City of X's lack of big eyes, small mouths, or animal heads. (Regarding faces and bodies, you'll never see anime's characteristic unrealism in a game where the art direction leans toward realistic human features.)

I want an inclusive game universe, not an exclusive one, and there's no better place to have that than a comic book universe. But this thread isn't about those other genres. And comic book universes are about superheroes first and foremost. And I'm sure Paragon Studios knows on which side their bread is buttered. So we need to ask for what we want. Paragon Studios has welcomed our ideas. There are already a ton of great ideas in the past few pages. So for anyone who thinks the superhero theme has been exhausted, you probably haven't read the thread, and you CERTAINLY don't read enough comic books. As a comic book reader, I can ASSURE you, Paragon Studios has not exhausted all the great superhero tropes. Not even close.

So, anyway, how about those Superhero Pack/Zone ideas? Got some, Wing Leader?

I don't think he read anything before posting.

I know you have a reputation for less-than-constructive feedback, but that is neither here nor there. There is a metric ton of great ideas being tossed around here thanks to you.

(You're probably wondering who I am too. No one special, just someone who wants a superhero pack. )

As soon as they register a forum name.

Next time, make sure you folks use a spoiler warning and a non-spoiler title.

I thread-jacked for a heroic purpose, which is keeping the surprises under wraps for new players or players who haven't made it to certain content. I will never help spoil the game for anybody, or condone doing so. All of you villainous spoilers can just deal with that.

I LOVE those masks.