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Originally Posted by je_saist

They will not for two very good reasons.

• $499
• $699

Nvidia is only launching two cards, the GTX 470 at $499, and the GTX 480 at $699. According to the people who have already laid hands on the prototypes, the 470 is slower than the RadeonHD 5870, while costing a full $100 more MSRP.

The GTX 480, while faster than the existing HD 5870 gamers could buy last year, is only 5%-8% faster in "real" games. That's not exactly a huge performance delta... and certainly not worth an extra $300 dollars.

If you ARE into spending $700 on a graphics card, there's the RadeonHD 5970 4gb edition cards hitting the market: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...cs_Boards.html

These dual-chip monstrosities on Crossfire supported games, don't just blow the GTX 480 out of the water. They'll do the equivalent of sending a ship parked in Pearl Harbor to Ohio State University by air mail.



From what we know, Nvidia's "mid-range" cards, the stuff to compete against the Radeon 57xx line-up, won't be landing until September or October at the earliest. Until, or unless, Nvidia gets their act together, price drops on existing RadeonHD 5000 series cards probably aren't in the cards. AMD and their vendors have no reason to lesson profits on what are the best (and only choices) for the gaming customer right now.

That being said, if AMD keeps on track for the RadeonHD 5000 series product refresh in June / July, we could see some price-cuts on the existing cards just to clear them out of the market.

Also, don't be too confident that OpenGL 3.2 / 3.3 / 4.0 support doesn't mean anything for CoH users. Television already has commented that they (the coders) are doing stuff in OpenGL that they apparently aren't ready to show yet. Given the timing of Television's comments and the release of the OpenGL 4.0 spec, there is the possibility that Paragon Studio's is planning to demonstrate Ultra Mode running against OpenGL 4.0 drivers from AMD for Going Rogue's July launch, which fits in with the expected date on AMD's RadeonHD 5000 product refresh.. and is enough time for AMD to get their OpenGL 4.0 drivers tested and ready for release.

Originally Posted by BigFish

seemed more like a 'feature' than a 'problem' to me

Originally Posted by Sermon

I have to use my debit card to purchase CoH stuff, since my credit card company blocks or used to block NCSoft. It, I heard, was simply because the the processing location was outside of the country. My brother had the same problem recently (even after he unblocked ncsoft once before). They credit card companies are trying to protect themselves, since they eat the bill on various fraud activities, and they could care less about inconveniencing their users. I seriously doubt that NCsoft is a hotbed of fraud, that is probably a catchphrase they have learned to try to pass the buck on the problem.

Originally Posted by Drummz

Yeah, the ati 5850 would be nice, but atm I just can't afford that much video card. In the long run if I wanted to, I can always add a 2nd card to the system, but for now, I'll have to run it as is.

Thanks for the advice, though

Originally Posted by sXe Angel

New player here, I'm loving the game so far except for one little thing. I can't purchase booster packs. Each time I try to buy one with both my verified paypal and my credit card, I keep getting the following message



If I could purchase the boosters at Best Buy, I would have done so earlier this week. I'm lucky if I can get through to purchase one booster pack each day. Am I doing something wrong on my end? Is this a known bug? Does NCSoft just not want my money? *lol*

I really would like to have the full set of booster packs just so I can have all the items and costume parts that are available to me as a new player. Any insight on this issue would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

Originally Posted by Drummz

K, so with my tax return, etc, I'm planning on getting a new computer within 2-3 weeks.

Been talking to some friends, family and getting advice. I want to make sure it will run Ultra mode when I7 hits with no problems on the highest video settings.

Here's the system:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saving/show.aspx?id=2510696

As far as specs, it has:

CPU: Intel® CoreT i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366

Single Hard Drive (1TB (1TBx1) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T SE Intel X58 Chipset CrossFireX Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA

MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module
Microsoft® Windows® 7 Professional (64-bit Edition)

Power supply: 600 Watts Power Supplies (XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply)

Video card: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB DDR5 16X PCIe Video Card

I like the review of that video card found here:

http://computershopper.com/graphics-...radeon-hd-5770

so I thought it for sure would be a good mid-range card.

Any thoughts/advice on this sytem?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Sailboat

I feel silly asking this because I'm a vet player, but this kind of surprised me last night.

When I can't find enough of a given common IO recipe for sale at the particular level I want, I sometimes go to my base's invention worktable and directly buy the recipe(s).



Then I can craft the recipe if I have the salvage and crafting cost.

It works well normally. In fact, the main problem I have with the system is that when I don't want to purchase common IOs (for example, I'm crafting a set recipe) the common IO recipes all show up in the window anyway, and I have to scroll down to open the inventions list. Even though I don't have any of the common IO recipes at the time, I still see all of them in the list so that I can buy them if I choose.

Last night I took a character into the base to buy some common IO recipes not available in the market and craft them. The character already had the salvage in-hand. But when I got to the crafting table, I had none of the common IO recipes listed, and thus could not purchase them. The list only showed some set recipes I was carrying at the time.

I went back to the market and bought a common IO recipe and returned. Now I only saw that one common IO recipe and not a list of all of them, and once I crafted that one recipe, it too no longer appeared on my list, so I could not buy more copies of it, even though I had the salvage in-hand.

I switched to one of my 50s and that character can see and purchase all the common IO recipes.

Is this a bug? Or is this because of some setting in my options for the character in question? Or is there some requirement the character needs to fulfill, like doing the invention system tutorial? The character who cannot see/purchase the recipes is a new "double exp weekend" baby and has not run the invention tutorial yet. The character is 22 currently.

Thanks for any ideas or assistance.

Originally Posted by Quinch

Since my original card is dying {well, technically it's just the fan that's giving out, but since I'll be out shopping for replacement anyway...}, I just thought to check - is $107 a passable price for a "nVidia XFX 9600GT 512Mb DDR3 650M with native HDMI"?

Or, given that hardware upgrades aren't frequent for me, would I get better value {mid-to-long term} for a 9800GT at $132?

Originally Posted by Darthic

Thanks for all the info and links guys. Work has been crazy lately, so I
haven't had a chance to follow up - But I'm grateful and will post once
I've put the suggestions into practice.

I'm anxious to begin upgrading/crafting my enhancements.

Originally Posted by Ravenous33

Went a head and purchased a XFX Radeon HD5850 1gb -HD585AZNBC
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0326581

Next up is proc/ and it looks like I will need a better mobo with a higher FSB

Originally Posted by NeoMuppet

Huh... well I got in now, but only by entering my login info blind. Neither Safe Mode nor TweakCoH had any apparent impact aside from changing the screen resolution.

The screens leading in were still blacked out, until I hit an actual character list where all I could see was the character model, but I managed to get into the game. Now I've got a slightly discoloured world where a lot of faces are flat black and all the UI windows are black and dirty-edged. I can barely read them and changing video settings doesn't seem to affect the problem at all.

I guess I'll try updating my video drivers, but this is a brand new card so I doubt that's the issue.

Originally Posted by PSLAnimal

Also, obligatory "this is not WoW" note: Mission, not quest.

Originally Posted by Shuriken_BladeX

Anyone know of any cards for slim cases that are good enough for ultra mode?

Originally Posted by Sukothai

My brother sold my computer after I told him not too, and I was wondering what would be the minimum graphics card/chipset for CoX?

Originally Posted by hewhorocks

If there was an enhancement you could slot that changed KB to KD how much would the popularity of Energy rise?

Originally Posted by DarkEther

I think we all need to hit NVidia and ATI and make sure we request that they develop the SLI and Crossfire profiles for this game if they aren't there already, and hopefully while NC is upgrading things here, they'll go that extra step.

Originally Posted by JD_Gumby

Shouldn't have too much trouble. The GTX 250's what they say the minimum for Ultra Mode is, so the 260'll be fine.

Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain

Well, turns out the crossfiring a 5870 and a 5850 is impossible here... cuz they were out of stock. So I bought him another 5870... He is setting them up right now.

Will see soon how crossfire 5870s do with Ultra Mode

Originally Posted by Kheldarn

Well, I don't.

Sorry, had to do that.

Originally Posted by Flarecrow

Well, I understand your point. But, I'm sure you equally understand my desire to test the waters on a rig I built for the sole purpose of running Ultra Mode without hiccups.

But, again, you are correct. CB should definitely be prioritizing bugs in the new graphics modes and the new zones, missions, and systems, no question about that.