British Battler

Contrary to what others say, Stone Melee is very good in my estimation, just ignore fault and hurl boulder and of course taunt, as smashin into the enemies ranks works for that part, and you've got a real devastating attack chain by lvl 4, slow recharge, but most foes can't stomach your damage output for long. It's great for PvE, can't say much on PvP though.

I've got a lvl 21 bot/ff now, so all 3 henchies of this tier in tow.

To be honest, as they're lower level I give them all the help I can. My alt has no attacks of his own and as such I have Assault and Tactics running and slot wise I have 3 acc and 3 damage on them.

They hit and do damage quite a bit and between the Prot bot and my aid other we keep them going, and the ff buffs stop them getting hit as much.

Works for me.

And if your going down this route take boxing then tough from the fighting pool, which gives you even more S/L resistance, about 11.25% I think, then slot it with 3 DamRes and 1 End Red to give you another 16-17% S/L resistance.

I do this with all my Inv Alts, and it's very handy.

As you may have noticed it's the pre-travel powers I looked at as any movement power at the end of the day will do really.

I think it's down to how you want your character to look as well, go for what you feel you want and not just the min/max builder type.

Air Superiority is one of my SS/Inv brutes favourite attacks, same damage as punch and flips loadsa goodies in the air, chained properly with haymaker can keep foes on there backs for the whole fight.

Combat Jumping helps negate some of your loss of Def with Unyeilding, and increases your vertical movement, and adds to your Immob res, very handy again.

Hasten increses your attack Rate by 70% I think, not sure on that, but that'd be 70% of the 50% of your recharge time, but when it runs out your end drops quite a bit.

The teleport ones are team and tactic specific.

So at the end of the day it's down to you.

I prefer Jumping a lot with my Def based alts, but Air Superiority wins the day for my Res based Brutes with Inv, and hasten doesn't really get much of a look in as with 6 or 7 attacks in most of my attack chains by the time my Brutes reach 32 I always have one to use.

Good luck and happy hunting.

And, I think a permanent 20% increase in recharge rate and 10% increase in run speed, that's what I heard, not sure though, but well worth having.

Almost as good as a Recharge SO in all your powers if it is, well worth having.

I'm with you on this one, I already did a thread on this even before I7 was released.

Where are these badges situated, and more importantly, what do they do.

Do you have a source for the info that you could post where I could look.

Thanks

I think Unyeilding reduced your defence a bit, so you get hit more, and also if you were taking energy damage only Unyeilding yould help you against it, as TI doesnt help against that.

I have a INV/SS at lvl 15 on Defiant so my experiance is from that.

Onlt got mine to lvl 18 so far, but I have gone down the no attack route.

I did try taking attacks in a few I played to lvl 10-14ish, but these soon got deleted.

As a Bot/FF MM I find that I can keep myself busy and alive by attracting no aggro, and having both shields by lvl 4 helped me in the early stages.

Anyway, first time I've posted a build, but here's mine:

1. Battle Drones (1.Acc)(3.Acc)(3.Acc)(5.Dam)(5.Dam)(7.Dam)
1. Force Bolt (1.Acc)(11.Acc)
2. Deflection Shield (2.Def)(7.Def)(9.Def)
4. Insulation Shield (4.Def)(9.Def)(11.Def)
6. Equip Robot (6.End Dis)
8. Assault (8.End Dis)
10.Hover (10.Def)
12 Protector Bots (12.Acc)(13.Acc)(13.Dam)(15.Dam)(15.Dam)(17.Heal)
14.Fly (14.End Disc)
16.Personal Force Field (16.End Disc)(17.Def)
18.Tactics (18.ToHit Buff)(19.ToHit Buff)(19.ToHit Buff)(33.End Disc)
20.Aid Other (20.Recharge)(21.Heal)(21.Recharge)(31.Heal)(31.Re charge)(36.Heal)
22.Dispersion Bubble (22.Def)(23.Def)(23.Def)(36.End disc)(39.End Disc)(40.End Disc)
24.Repair (24.Recharge)(25.Recharge)(25.Recharge)(40.End Disc)(40.End Disc)
26.Assault Bot (26.Acc)(27.Acc)(27.Acc)(29.Dam)(29.Dam)(31.Dam)
28.Maneuvers (28.Def)(33.Def)(33.Def)(34.End Disc)
30.Stealth (30.Def)(37.Def)(37.Def)(37.End Disc)
32.Upgrade Robot (32.End Disc)(34.End Disc)(36.End Disc)
35.Grant Invisibility (Sorry, stealth bots, can't resist, any suggestion for a better power in here lol)(35.End Disc)
38.Force Bubble (38.End disc)(39.End disc)(39.End Disc)


Anyway, up to lvl 18 so far, but any constructive comments appreciated, and I hope this helps you also.

Wow, brings back memories

I think that I have now played most types of brute up to a decent level, and find that they are what you make them.

I have found a Stone Armoured Brute can Tank with taunt, but an EA one doesnt stand a chance of really doing it.

SS/INV seem to be the best all rounders, and getting KO Blow at lvl 8 is a great incentive

Dark/Dark Brutes seem to be the moody type, the all round villan of the Brute set, getting fear powers and life draining the enemy, so it's a really characterful set.

Fire/Fire is great for damage, really nice, but lacking in the resistance stakes, but a really fast turn around self heal when slotted.

I like to keep my alts themed, and dont really like to powergame much, I have seen a load of EA/Stone Armour clones out there recently who seem to think this is the best combo, but it's purley up to you.

I have honestly found experimentation is the best way to go, trying them out for yourself. You'll soon find out which one suits your playstyle, and then away you'll go.

Enjoy

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If you plan on running Granite 24/7, don't slot it. Put a GotA +Runspeed in there, or use a slot and add a LotG+Rech as well.

It is by no means a waste of a power, unlike Gale for storm controllers, jab/barrage for tanks, etc, etc.

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Barrage has had an upgrade and Gale on a MM is quite nice

Well that's what a mate of mine and I have found lvling a pair of thug/storm mm's, you learn to use the kb....and a pair of herdicanes is just pure niceness and room corners are your 3rd party member.

Gale is good in the right players hands, just like any other power really

No votes for */storm then.....duoing with a m8 on one atm...both of us are thug/storm, and it seems fairly powerful atm.

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So one persons opinion is not yours....Hussah for individuality. If you disagree with it thats your opinion, one that I happen to disagree with. Taking my "Whole" post you will see that I have played Scrappers that can out Tank/Brute Tanks and Brute,

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Given that you're talking about a WP scrapper, depending on the tank/brute's defense set, that's not that big of an accomplishment...

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And the bit about location AE....well, after 2 weeks of playing after i14's release I " Personally" decided to leave that place alone, and go back to standard play, but if someone puts it as there location....well....to me and 95% of the pug invites I recieve these days...no matter the server, leads me to believe that powerset choices and AT selection, not to mention skill level and experiance (players not character) do not seem to matter, as it is a pl'ing paradise these days ( without wanting to turn this into another MA sucks thread, as I can't be bothered with that).

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Fine, you leave it alone. But that doesn't mean that everyone who does use and enjoy it is a PLer. There are plenty of legitimate AE players out there. In fact, the PLers are really the minority. Just an ignorant, obnoxious, and highly visible minority.

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Hehe.....well, obviously we're going to have a circular argument here, nice long descriptive replies vrs one line put down, well, I think I'll leave this now, as although 3 yrs ago I would have happily kept on discussing vrs someone such as yourselves, you learn that certain people have no idea about things that it is pointless, no matter how much you wish to, to continue discussing it. That and having 3 kids who continuously ask questions about everything, so have fun and keep on at it

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Rather have a Scrapper.

And never take a brute to replace a tanker when needed.

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Haha, I see your location is AE...so the point is moot....

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Starting out with a baseless assumption... Bravo.

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Brutes in PvE are better than Scrappers, Just my observation after nearly 4 years of doing both mainly

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That's not an observation. It's an opinion. And one I disagree with.

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So one persons opinion is not yours....Hussah for individuality. If you disagree with it thats your opinion, one that I happen to disagree with. Taking my "Whole" post you will see that I have played Scrappers that can out Tank/Brute Tanks and Brute, but given the choice where player skill is disregarded Brutes would be more choice, but thanks for the kick in the slats, always needed once in a while hehe

And the bit about location AE....well, after 2 weeks of playing after i14's release I " Personally" decided to leave that place alone, and go back to standard play, but if someone puts it as there location....well....to me and 95% of the pug invites I recieve these days...no matter the server, leads me to believe that powerset choices and AT selection, not to mention skill level and experiance (players not character) do not seem to matter, as it is a pl'ing paradise these days ( without wanting to turn this into another MA sucks thread, as I can't be bothered with that).

So, keep your opinions, I'll keep mine, and if you want to continue the discussion, just PM me instead

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Rather have a Scrapper.

And never take a brute to replace a tanker when needed.

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Haha, I see your location is AE...so the point is moot.... Brutes in PvE are better than Scrappers, Just my observation after nearly 4 years of doing both mainly (although I have plenty of 40+ other AT's all my 50's are either Tanks, Brutes or Scrappers)

So with "Support" as the OP suggested I believe overall a Brute is much more preferable to a Scrapper

And if a tank is "Unavailable" a Brute is 1000% more preferable to a Scrapper anyday of the week....due to their Tank style power choices and caps.

Assuming player skill is not counted (as I do have a 50 MA/WP Scrapper that out tanked and bruted most I have teamed with )

On a Team with no tank and lots off buffs co op wise...a Brute, they have more base HP, higher Res caps and generally once they've built fury more damage because of fury and they tend to slot 2 acc/1 or 2 end reds and 2 or 3 rech in their attacks, giving them the same base dmg as scrapper without the crits but doing more over time due to the rech in their attacks...add in hasten and IO's and I think Brute, due to there base stats will pull ahead of scrapper and post GR...they will possibly be more desireable on teams then a tanks when on a team.........as long as they take taunt, which leads me back to the scrapper, who can't even start to manage aggro like a Brute, which of the melee classes is just behind a tank.

So just to clarify....on a team, I think a Brute wins out for me over a Scrapper.

I am assuming that unless the AE mission is a Devs choice that player written content will not attract double xp/inf/prestige in the event at the end of the month as you cannot use patrol XP with it in normal play.

If not, I seriously hope they do this before the end of July Then we can get down to some serious TF work and Story Arcs instead

I think the OP is annoyed that Citadels ET does not have the same animation as the new EM set's..... a bit like Valkyrie and the Paragon Protectors get the old MoG.

Just a symptom of whats good for the goose not been good for the gander....

Devs...get with it, equalise the playing field

It's up, i'm in

I'm just curious, i play quite a few dominators, but none of them are level 50, and none have pema dom, but whats the general idea about the new Dom changes in i15...

is it....1. Great Buffage with a few nerfs or 2. OMG loadsa powers have been nerfed with this new Buff.

Just a question, as I never have the time..or inclination, to play on test.

ME

I have over 100 characters across all AT's and 14 Servers... I play on 3 of the EU ones as well, and have been playing for almost 4 years in total and only have 10....almost 14....level 50's

No Altaholic then.... the player that plays many characters and never seems to get many to 50

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Any single target heal will break a mez.

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This may be confused with any heal actually breaks sleep effects, as it actually does, but not any other type of mez.