Big_King

This. My first pre-market/recipes/salvage/IOs hero hovered in the 1-2 million mark for most of their career. I was almost always able to upgrade to the latest loot when mine expired. It's just not that expensive and does not require marketeering.

If I'm reading the wiki correctly, the most expensive level 30 SO is 36,000 (damage and heal). At level 27, you have around 44 slots (13 *1 [even levels] + 14 * 2 [odd] + 3 (inherent)). That's a total of 1,584,000, well within your budget.

Since you probably want to get to playing without being unenhanced, I recommend stopping by your origin specific store in Talos or IP and just buying the SOs. I would also take others' advice here and start getting some experience in the market, even if only to learn how to price the valuable loot that you'll be receiving soon (I put in a good word for you with the RNG). You can then gradually replace these SOs with IOs as you get more experience or just keep replacing with SOs if they start to expire before you have the IOs. As has been previously mentioned, the game is balanced around SOs so you'll be competent with these all the way to 50.

I probably wasn't clear. I'm NOT referring to stealth/tp or to "Assemble the Team", which sometimes gets confused with TTP. I'm referring to the final power in the TP pool, which teleports every member (including pets) in range to a specific spot (lower range than regular TP).

For most teams, it's useless and counter-productive. For a FRad team, it's a beast in later levels. It gets everyone in melee together, and keeps the team tight for Aura, AM, Hot Feet, and Choking Cloud. Nothing is quite as fun as porting the entire group into an unsuspecting mob and telling them "Hello, you're held by 8 Choking Cl-, oops, you're dead."

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSoR7nq6b_g for a video of a group of 7 doing it to absolutely destroy the Final 4 on the STF in less time than most groups can take out one.

I don't know if either of Disko's builds has it currently. One is for normal team play. The other is for all-FRad teams, but it probalby has Group Fly. Another power useless on most teams, but awesome on Frads when combined with TTP.

If there is interest, I can try to respec to TTP.

That explains why I logged in recently and ALL of my emails were gone. Since it's a known issue, hopefully the GMs can help me get them all back. Glad to hear it's fixed too.

Wow, that seems quite high in my experience. I run with a fun group that has done several theme teams in the past year and a half. Our TA/ defender group (Feb-May), /Traps villains(July-Oct), electric toons(Nov-Jan), and Rad heroes (Jan-Apr) all took around 3 months each to get to 50 for the regulars, playing 2 nights/week for 2-3 hours/session. I don't know the hours, but I'd estimate around 50-60. We're definitely casual, but do usually have large teams at increased difficulty, which I think is a big factor.

I would think that folks who liked to team could get it done in around 100 hours without a problem, but perhaps my perspective is off.

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This will be an SO build, mostly used at lower levels. It will not have any sets and defense will only be derived from, Invincibility, Combat Jumping, and Tough Hide. I may fit in Maneuvers late.

Thanks for the responses. I actually decided to use my 2nd build and try one of each option.

Funny. When I read this, the majority of the picture was below my screen so I only saw the text and the tallest tentacle.

I was frightened to scroll down!

Fun thread.

I agree with Don's sentiment here: Why compare to the original design when we've had the TF live for quite some time? I also agree that requiring 6-8 controllers/doms is a bit much.

However, just to play devil's advocate on the above statement, hasn't it been this way since inception already?

The first time I ran this with a core group of friends I play with regularly, we did this with one of our typical "all buff" teams. Mostly trollers, defs and corrs allowed as well. This team typically steamrolls content at high difficulty, and we did so on the LGTF until Hami's Yellow friends. We could not put a dent in them with all our ranged attacks. I queried some gfriends that helped me remember that melee damage was needed. A few of us had Sands of Mu and one had taken an APP melee attack, but after taking 1 of them down in 20 mins with multiple wipes, we threw in the towel. However, this happened ONCE. Now, if any of us are forming a LGTF with no melee, someone (preferably 2) has to swap*. I assume the same would happen if all Brutes/Scrappers showed up, but that never happens in the circles I run in.

My longwinded point is that I don't think it's necessarily bad (or at least not unique) to require holds as part of the encounter since melee and ranged damage are already required. Perhaps those are easier to come by on most teams (esp with Vet attacks), but it still already comes into play when forming a team. And a hold is included in nearly all non-Dom/Troller APPs as well. Like I said, 6+ is a bit much, but I don't think requiring 1 or 2 with some minor support from APP powers (or maybe add some Holding Vet or Temp powers) is so bad and is similar to what is already required.

It also seems like the devs' intent in the newer content is to encourage "well balanced" teams, perhaps so that any AT can contribute.

*I will admit that now that we know better, we could likely complete the LGTF with 8 controllers with a little forward planning/alternate builds, but this was our first time and it was getting late. Hopefully, the LGTF will be adapted to similar levels of hold protection as well.

I vote for Dragon*Con too, but why 2011, Catwhoorg? Is it too late for this year's? It's Labor Day weekend as always, I presume.

I advise to be very careful with this. In your example above, you will certainly sell to the high bidder, but I've seen many instances where the high bidder is well below market value. Every once in a while, you'll see a very high value item sell for 111,111. I bet this is almost always folks thinking simlarly "Last 5 are 50M, there are tons of bidders, so I'm sure the highest is reasonable." You never know when a supply spike hits that just took out the last reasonable bid. Selling a 50M item for 100k stings. I recommend always listing for the absolute minimum you're willing to part with it for, no less. You may get lucky and have a high bidder well over your amount, but don't count on it. Of course, I also have never had a situation where I had a toon that had a high dollar recipe, but neither the funds nor the means to get funds quickly for the listing fee.