B_L_Angel

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What is it with assuming that someone is "jumping down" anyone's "throat" just because they disagree?

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I won't let you pull me into one of these board fights. I read this thread and that's what I saw.

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I know I will regret jumping in here, but what is with the jumping down the throats of people that disagree with you ? I enjoy reading the drama on these threads but this has gotten really ugly and petty.

I am not taking sides here there is plenty of wrong to go around.

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I have yet to hear of anyone receiving any kind of warning or punishment for ticket farming, for example.

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If no one bothered to shout out how would we know ?

Should we start a new thread for this ?

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But in the MA the line between leveraging your characters' valid strengths and exploiting unintended behaviors is pretty blurry. I'm almost at the point of saying that instead of punishing people who create imbalanced maps or scenarios, the devs should reward it, and take steps to ensure that they can deal quickly with the information that surfaces.

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This is a fantastic idea, Keep.
Much more constructive and less player-hostile than their current stance.

The carrot is more effective than the stick, especially when you refuse to explain which actions trigger the beatings.

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Seems that would take a major attitude adjustment on the part of the development team.

Snow_Globe posted on the badge thread where Positron initially expected people to have to farm MA. So he isn't playing it straight with the players to begin with on this.

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They can do whatever they want within the rules.


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No

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They can do whatever they want.

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Better.

What you said about c.s. and the accounts sounds like a violation of the rules of conduct. It also sounds incorrect

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Everybody has thier own idea of what is right.


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::Looks at the crowd of people saying "you will know an exploit when you see it"::

Don't tell me tell them

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However you (general You) can choose, within the confines of a contract, to give up freedom of speech on specific topics. In most cases breaking the contract results in serious litigation.

For example. Breaking a Non Disclosure Agreement can cost you (General You) thousands of dollars if the breech of contract damages a company's image, or their product's image.

Every person who utilizes the forums has agreed to the terms of such a contract. Wherein they limit their freedom of speech on specific subjects. Threads that discuss 'Bannings' or 'Character Deletion' are breaking that rule. The Devs have every right to 'Silence the truth!' when the truth should be discussed only in the appropriate channels which every End User has agreed to.

Spreading news or 'truth' of people being rolled back or having characters locked damages the image of the company and the product. This can result in a loss of profits.

So rather than overwork the Moderators in their attempt to enforce the rules TAKE UP YOUR (General You) ISSUES WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE.

This is -NOT- a Civil Rights Issue. This is NOT The Abolition. This is either an -error- in the game's coding which needs to be repaired or it's a duly notified punishment being meted out.

Subverting other threads to your (general you) purpose will not help the matter and will only exacerbate it as multiple threads unrelated to the 'Taboo' topic get locked or deleted based on your (again, general you) actions.

Please. Follow the rules and take it up with Customer Service rather than doing your (general You) best to defame a -good- game.

-Rachel-

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There is what they can do and what is right. You are an adult ? You should know the difference.

Panzer

Count me in. But you already knew I'd say that.


Saturday or Sunday should be good for me all /rad should be fun we could vary up the primary a bit sonic/rad on corruptors will be awesome. Imagine 8 howls at the damage cap, rifle for 8 full autos.

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Slippery Slope: I am just quoting the sentiments I have seen on these very boards. Many posters, speaking for themselves have indeed maintained their belief that they farm, despite their dissatisfaction with the 'grind', "because they feel they have to".


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The farmers repeatedly said they farm because they enjoy it.

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I don't think that the Devs would have taken action without datamining showing enough people engaging in the activity that they felt NOT acting was extremely bad for the game. They put the brakes on activity that was making them money hand over fist. They would not have done that without a perception that some kind of doom or major harm was imminent.

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I have only been playing the game for about a year, and my experience is somewhat limited, but there is one thing I am sure of. The devs can't datamine the time of day in less than a month.

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They put the brakes on activity that was making them money hand over fist.

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I also know this is not the first time, and its not the first time they have distorted their reasons for doing things.

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You spend your time waiting for boost range just to get those long and short cones in AR matched up to something reasonable.


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Slot for range, problem solved.
(on my 50 I have a lot of dam/range HOs, but you can slot ranges at any level)

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Doesn't range cap out at about 40% ?

Buck shot with that would give you a 56 foot range verses 80 for full auto. Full auto being such a narrow cone forces me to shoot at as long a range as possible to get as wide a base as I can. That's why I created an AR/MM. Psychic Scream has a 60 foot range and with just a little range hits 70+

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you need the patience of a saint with /EM. You spend your time waiting for boost range just to get those long and short cones in AR matched up to something reasonable.

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You can get boost range within a couple seconds of permanent with SOs, with IOs it's dead simple; my AR/EM isn't noted for his patience.

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Sorry my fault, what I wanted to say was, "you need the patience of a saint because you don't get boost range to late level". Once you have it, it is pretty easy to get it to the point its permanent

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Rather it's simply an overlooked power since it is unique, it takes time to make a custom fix to a power with say, calling it a targeted AoE, rather than a cone (which it isn't)

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That really seems to be what's happened. Every other blaster tier 9 has a 16 target cap and is able to easily hit an entire spawn. Full Auto is the only one that has such a low cap and such a difficult line up.

If you compare AR with the other sets it still falls a little short. I love the set but I paired it with secondaries that compensate for it's shortcomings. AR/MM and AR/EM work really well even though you need the patience of a saint with /EM. You spend your time waiting for boost range just to get those long and short cones in AR matched up to something reasonable.

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What's with the extended complaining from the Farm Bureau? MA's peak farmability was only a short time during the 5-year history of this game -- it's not like they removed Scrappers from the game, or anything that was part of the game culture longer than 3 weeks -- hell, you could have gone on vacation and missed the entire thing! -- and yet a subset of the playerbase is just elaborately bitter about it.

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More like they left. The ones still here and talking just don't like the way it was handled.

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Anything a farmer can do, a non-farmer can do (in general). The practice spreads beyond those people who can 'handle' it. It spreads to people who hate it but now beleive they have to do it, and it spreads to just plain TOO MANY people.


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That's called a slippery slope argument. It's a well known logical fallacy. If it were true why isn't everyone doing it now ?

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Then, before you kow it, Farming is not a few outliers having fun. It becomes the normal speed of the game. "Everyone does it", and all that. It becomes an activity the Devs can't tolerate or ignore, because that all-important average speed to 50 begins to creep up or maybe even leap up.

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This has been challenged but no one has presented anything to show it is actually true.

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I can't prove that, but you know it's true.

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No I don't.

So hard to pick the ones that are fun are just sooo much fun.

Fire/Ment tied with Arch/Ment

Then AR/Ment, AR/Energy

Its non crashing rapid recharging nukes that do it for me.

Earth/Rad for me.

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There's no greater feeling in this game, than legitimately earning level 50 via soloing your entire career. I could have joined a team for that, but I soloed my main to 50.

This MA farming thing is ridiculous, as I am sure a majority of you know. Atlas hasn't been the same ever since(joke)

My proposal is that you, the devs, remove experience gain from all missions EXCEPT Hall of Fame missions, and Dev's Choice. This will no doubt alleviate all the farming down with one foul swoop. I'm sure sifting through Hall of Fame missions for farms is a heck of a lot easier than sifting through ALL missions, anyways.

I want to be clear, this proposal of mine does NOT include infamy/influence, and prestige. In other words, all published missions would still be able to reward influence/infamy, and prestige if you're in SG mode. Just not experience points.

...And let's face it, for all of you out there that feel the same way as I do about these farms. Doesn't it suck to have all your mission arcs you worked hard on buried under all those farm missions?

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Fine by me. I have always believed in leaving loaded guns around children as an intelligence test.

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and BL have u decided what u would like to play?

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Well I'd like to fill in any weak spots we have on the team and try to provide some of the stacking that make these things work so well.

I am tempted to go Mind/Rad so we have at least a double of rad. Earth/Rad also looks good.

As I said I'd like to take whats best for the team on this

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so were full now, just waiting on those that are undecided

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Just one question isn't a superteam supposed to be designed on the powersets so the abilities stack to really crushing effect ?

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so, ive wanted to either create or join a super team after seeing them posted.

well ive decided just to start one myself because i always catch the other teams on the tail end.

as the subject suggests i want to do an all troller team but im completely open to other suggestions.

on protector, on thursday friday or possibly the weekend.

anyone interested?

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Count me in.

Fire/Rad level 50
global: @black leather angel

Great fun in the cutscene

Cutscene

It was a fantastic run as well.

Was a great run and a great job by scrappy as TL

The order of the Radiant Phoenix
Website: Under construction
Leaders: Radiant Hestia @Black leather angel, Radiant Salamander
Recruiting: Any member
Purpose: Running task forces with fire based and or radiation based teams.

Hi just wanted to put word of our group out there. We are new only 8 members at the moment but so far its been a blast. No pun intended.

Our first TF was a positron 4 people showed and we managed it in two and a half hours with a 24 hour break.

If you are interested in joining the fun send a pm to me here or in game