Aura_Familia

Originally Posted by Shadow Wail

looks like a flying sea turtle!

Originally Posted by Rylas

I heard Kanye West say that "Emperor Cole doesn't care about Ward people."

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

I'm assuming that he and his loyalist followers care for the people they're protecting, like all good heroes would

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

It's a Dark Astoria/Croatoa/Eden mash up

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Couldn't Tyrant and Anti-matter have come up with a plan that didn't involve the deaths of thousands of citizens? Like, say, using people with superpowers to evacuate the people?

Originally Posted by Socorro

This looks decent, but the other Victorian face, which I much prefer; I couldn't do anything to cover up those bright red lips.

Originally Posted by Not_Rhino

Just because you take the powers doesn't mean you have to explain them as Incarnate powers in your concept. As far as roleplaying goes, I would consider it downright stupid to "refuse" to do Incarnate content because it doesn't fit your concept. If it doesn't fit, make it fit. My Stalker has Pyronic judgment. He has no fire powers. I pretend it's an incendiary bomb. Problem solved.



I completely disagree. Passive powers are no fun. I want more clicky clicky boom boom. Keep in mind all of the Incarnate content is optional, so... if you don't want more tray powers, you don't have to take them. I only fill 6 of my trays on most of my 50s and that's including all of my temp power crap that I could easily remove if I needed to, but I doubt I'll ever have need considering I have 3 more trays that are empty. I have to wonder, though, if you think you have a lot of crap taking up room... have you ever played a tri-form Kheldian?

I'd have to think about some stuff before putting any of it in writing. One thing I am pretty sure we'll get though is a second level shift from tier 3+ Omega, which will be nice.

What I'd REALLY like to happen with the next batch of Incarnate powers is for the devs to allow Incarnate level characters to begin a Task Force without a team. It really is quite inconvenient trying to get 5 other people to come to Cimerora and keeping one of them on the team, (or having them log out), while you solo an ITF. I get that Task Forces were never meant to be soloed, but that's kinda the point, isn't it? Characters were never meant to be this powerful... but they are, and as long as they are, and considering the fact that people CAN and WILL do it regardless despite the inconvenience, why not just LET US?

Originally Posted by DarkCurrent

I didn't read his post as that. But regardless, I think when it comes to making changes to powers you have to look at their basic intent and not their particular methods of delivering that intent.

If a power is meant to provide damage, then revising/replacing it with something that also does damage is okay.

Changing it so that it's now a heal or a control or a defense shield, should not be okay.

To me, that's the 'cottage rule'.

That said, powers like Dim Shift, Black Hole, sonic cage, and detention field could (and should) be replaced by new powers that have the same intent (AoE or ST control) and nobody would get upset. If the intent of those powers is to take a target or targets out of a fight so they cannot fight back, then any sort of control that does the same without making the target intangible would be an adequate (and superior) replacement. For instance, if sonic and FF had a hold instead of the cage nobody would complain. If Dim Shift and BH were replaced with a long duration knockdown (for example), nobody would be upset.

Seriously, is there anyone out there that prefers making a target intangible to hard controlling it for the same duration?

Originally Posted by Not_Rhino

Really? You think a ton of people would get up in arms because the devs decided to change a power that nobody even takes anyways? "Oh no, don't change Dimensional Shift! It's bad enough they changed the Sonic graphics to not cause severe migraines after years of complaints, NOW how will I grief my teammates!?"

Good thing that's not what I said then. I did not say "random reason" and I think you definitely did misunderstand that. But if people have any faith in the devs, there should be no need for some "rule" that tells them what they can do with existing powers. I have enough faith in them to know that they wouldn't completely change an existing power unless it was truly in need of change, and I wouldn't call that random or arbitrary.

Originally Posted by DarkCurrent

This is completely off-base. The example from changing the PPPs is totally different from changing something like Dimension Shift.

For mace mastery (your example), replacing an AoE blast with a person Def power is a 180 degree change and yes, should not be done (obey the cottage rule). But replacing Dim Shift (an AoE control) with New Power X (an AoE control) would not and should not be barred based on some 'cottage rule' as the spirit of the power remains the same. The reason to use Dim Shift is to take several targets out of a fight for a limited amount of time. This same effect could be achieved using a newly designed power that people would actually take. With the example of the mace mastery potential switch, the devs were replacing an AoE damage power (something doms had little access too with their secondaries) with an individual defense buff. That completely would have violated the original intent of the AoE dmg power... to provide more damage to multiple targets... and taken away that damage potential to replace it with a personal survival tool that 'phased' the dominator out of action while PFF was active.

Replacing Dim Shift with another AoE control would NOT violate any sort of cottage rule and your comparing such an idea with the PPP potential changes (and rightful outrage at the thought) is an apples to oranges situation.

Originally Posted by Not_Rhino

So what? You gotta pick at me for not reading every post in the thread because I happened to agree with Arcanaville on one particular point without realizing it? Or pick at parts of my post that are irrelevant to the main point in order to distract people? Arcanaville said the same thing a few pages back... how, exactly, does that invalidate my repetition of it? I was and am fully aware that Arcanaville knew of the origins of the "cottage rule". There isn't really much about this game that Arcanaville doesn't know, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything. Even despite said post the argument seemed to be that it was good to have some sort of preventative design rule, though in Arcanaville's own words, the supposedly existing "cottage rule" is not actually a rule at all.

I don't think there needs to be any "rule" or "restriction" on completely changing certain powers. If people want to argue that it's better to compromise and attempt to appeal to everyone possible by adding extra effects to existing powers or keeping the old primary effects as secondary effects or whatever, then I guess we'll just agree to disagree. There are certainly cases where that works fine. But then there are cases that I don't think it would work at all. How do you keep a phase effect on Black Hole or Dimensional Shift while also making it a good power? Heck, how do you keep it as some form of mez without stepping on toes of the rest of the set? I am sure there could be some ideas put forward for the latter, and I'd like to see them, but I'd also be totally cool with changing these kinds of powers so that they aren't mezes at all. There will be a vocal minority that are opposed to it, but you don't always HAVE to appeal to vocal minorities.

Originally Posted by SevereCalamity

While I don't see this "protest" accomplishing anything, this made me lol.

Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim;3733449[B

]Not quite sure what you mean by existing, but Stalkers should not have issues completing any content. They're fine solo, and I've tanked for small teams with my Nin Stalker.

My Blaster can undoubtedly clear mobs of minions faster than the Stalker, but that's as should be. The Stalker still is going to be able to deal with more damage being thrown at him, as should be as well.[/B]

To add my own two cents about the cottage rule, I honestly do not understand why people despise it so much. I can only think it's a misconception of how it works. It doesn't keep the developers from adjusting powers to work better, it gives design consistency and also reminds developers how drastic changes tend to tick off people you didn't even realize would be ticked off. People are annoyed about some of the EA changes, even though it's overall a buff to the set. Same thing happened when they suggested removing Ancillary powers that "no one takes." That one fell on its face.

Stop with the hate folks, it's an effective design philosophy.

Originally Posted by NuclearToast

No, I was being completely serious. Even if you do those things, you still have no idea if you're going to get to do anything or not. It's like magic or something, except without the anything-happening part. Just the waiting part. I've never successfully gotten the queue to do anything but raise my blood pressure.





Bingo. Broadcast is SOOOO much simpler.

--NT

Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja

What's funny about that is about the same time I got CoH, I also picked up Crysis. To this day, Crysis* has yet to be installed.

*Yeah I heard it was a horrible game after the fact, but I wanted to check out the graphics.

Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake

i'm with zwill on capoeria as an alt anim for ma.