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Don't see them doing this ever. Though I would love it if they did.

/yawn don't care.

EDIT: Everything Posi posted in there is win.

Now the farmers and plers can go about their business and you never have to worry about being bothered by them. The anti-plers and anti-farmers can also go about theirs.

And the RMTers, I got two words for ya: SUCK IT!

muahahhaha.

Pure win, Posi!

win. :-)
Best way to stop arguments before they start.

LOL WUT?

Am I the only one that finds that last sentence hilarious?

EDIT: Seriously! Think on it a sec.

The devs HAVE been posting what we want to hear, hear on these forums.

I also follow twitter, and **** NO I do not want to hear about what specialty rpgs or cereal they've had, as that has NOTHING to do with what's going on in game.

It's nice they have fun too, but I couldn't care less if they post stuff like that on twitter. Just more stuff to ignore while reading the RELEVANT dev posts.

Thinking of purling my warsahde, but not before I'm done with my perma dom project in my sig. I still have a few places where purples would fit.

I will say that it's been hella easy to make inf in this game, and harder to find stuff to spend it on. There's not a lot of toons I want purples for.

Making inf is hard. LOL, not.

old like a fine wine?

The devs could up the drop rate by 20-40%, but if folks aren't running anything except AE, they will NEVER see a purple drop.

The issue isn't really the rate, if folks don't run content where purples drop they don't get purples.

They should pop out into your enh tray.

Not really it can't. They've had how many tries now? I don't think game design can overcome any of those, as some of them are just fundamentally things you can't control via game design.

Harassment by other players for instance is something that ALREADY has options to not happen in the zones. Other side chat is OFF by default. IF you are seeing it it's because YOU turned on the chat.

Repeatedly killing someone in a pvp zone is NOT harassment either. So I'm not sure what harassment you are talking about.

Again THAT can't be controlled by game design mechanics.

Many folks said they didn't like pvp cause of all the bunny hopping. Suppression in i13 supposedly put that down a bit. This didn't cause folks to suddenly love pvp.

Number 4 and 5 isn't going to change since the devs seem hell bent on keeping pvp and pve effects and powers SEPARATE. Also with pvp ios, purples, yeah game design --especially the direction of THIS GAME--I'm not arguing semantics about pvp game design, I'm talking specifically in THIS game, with this DEV team's game history and the proposed and continued direction with pvp; isn't doing jack for that.

They have had many opportunites through game design to get people to pvp they didn't. First it was arenas, then it was lower level pvp zones, then it was RV, then it was various tweaks (getting rid of caging for instance) to make it less annoying for folks. Then finally i13.

Tell me at which time in any of those design decisions that the pvp pop was suddenly rolling and large and you could find folks in the zones consistently in the servers, matching the levels of pl teams in PI?

EDIT: Also every time an open pvp system or dueling system is suggested on these forums it's been shot down with so many holes it's not even funny. The idea that if we just do it right folks will love it is a pipe dream. For it to be a reality you'd have to get a team of devs in who don't aim to go on the current path of i13 pvp. Since the likelihood of that happening is null and void . . . yeah.

True, except that he has no data of such. In fact there is very MUCH data that this game's playerbase as a whole DOESN'T enjoy pre-i13 or post i13 pvp. Data that others above have alluded to, some of which comes directly from the devs.

MUCH of which anyone with two wits can check just by checking how many folks are using the Arena/pvp zones during the day compared to how many are using, say I don't know, the AE, which is probably the most mind numbing repetitive thing folks do repeatedly hour after hour--despite what you think of farming AE is the worst example of grind if we are really honest. If more folks are doing something that grindy that says something about i13 pvp.

The same can be said of pre-i13 as WAAAAAY more folks did newspapers and radios than arena or pvp zones. This includes our "favorite" server, Freedom.

The idea that there is some hidden MASSIVELY LARGE elventy1111!!! audience in game that is gung ho on open pvp or dueling is a fallacy.

EDIT: TLR: Whether folks want to face it or admit it or not, this playerbase is mostly CAREBEAR. Nothing at all wrong with that btw. This just wasn't an mmo of players all that big on pvp. Nor was this ever meant as a major pvp game. yeah, yeah, statesman wanted pvp in and "planned" (roftl at planned--more like put together with wax and duck tape) it from the begining. Irrelevant to whether the audience they "planned" it for would play it or even wanted it in large numbers.

This more than anything says alot. I just don't think it would a feature used by that many folks.

No difference between sewers, AE, or radios/newspapers, as all are content done to avoid the boring stale dev content misisons that aren't tfs.

I see nothing wrong in wanting to avoid doing something you'd done 1323134 times, if you find something else in game fun.

You just killed this idea faster than anything else the naysayers could ever say.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the devs do ever implement it this way that most folks don't use it.

So if you're slotted with purples you lose them?

This is all well and good, but doesn't change that open would pvp prior to i13 or post i13 would be a horrible idea.

suuuuurreeee

You can sponge if you find an AE farm leader who is nice. Usually you have to ask FIRST. But 90% of the time you'll get kicked. Especially true for lowbies.

For a newbie it does take effort, for a vet: Takes no effort at all to get to PI.

Never said I was a pro-farmer btw.

EDIT: Doesn't take effort for anyone who is the right level to get the oroborus portal also. Once you get to a level to get that it's silly easy to get to PI. If you have a base it's even easier, as the base exit for PI puts you right in portal corp.

And fighting in a farm takes more effort than door sitting. Sorry but doesn't matter how you spin the definition.

You can go 1-50 by zoning to PI and standing in a farm forever being done by a fire/kin.

Your point?

EDIT: Ridiculous to bring up travel time in a game where everyone has super powers and the oroborus portal.

Point is most farms will kick you if you don't fight in the AE. Not so much in PI farms of old. So I think being forced to FIGHT in most AE Farms is more effort than door sitting. but you must be using some "special" definition of minimal.

I think he means let the devs go about their business and you go about yours.