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Originally Posted by Nyx

After doing these a few times. Well, I have conceded that these trials are AT driven.

These are not niche trials...they are DPS/Tank and Healing jobs.

I stopped finding it a[[ealing when I relized that there is not place for me in these trials.

Im leveling up something else in order to participate, but my much beloved Grav/FF/Psi offers nothing. And though there is nothing wrong with her, I just realize that what makes her special does not occure in a league format.

Sure I can bubble, but they are tissue

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

Handing a bunch of power to a guy hellbent on taking over the multiverse, killing all supers and enslaving everyone else isn't evil now?

Originally Posted by Vanden

Where are you guys getting this "the Well is evil" stuff?

Originally Posted by Olantern

Whoever comes up with the best (not serious) explanation for how airstrikes can hit you in the field hospital wins a prize.

Originally Posted by DMystic

But take those 3 judgment characters and run through the ITF with them.
That's the Op's concern.

Also for the 9CU's I believe the higher judgment tiers do significantly more damage than the earlier tiers.

So while Tier 1 won't dent the 9CU's Tier 3 wipes em out completely.

Originally Posted by Gemini_2099

As we speak that is happening with Incarnate content, so how is that any different?

The point of a putting in a new currency, influence sinks, timer cool downs, uneven drop rates, is to slow down farming of Incarnate content. And yet there are people already sporting high tier Incarnate powers meanwhile those barriers remain which are punishing for those that "take" their time to do the content.

Originally Posted by RemusShepherd

I agree with almost everything you wrote, because you carefully avoided the problem cases. For example you didn't mention rezzes -- the Barrier power *is* superior to an empath's rez.

But what you wrote above is the one thing I can disagree with strongly. A single incarnate with the huge Destiny buff *can* cover the team as well as a forcefielder and with much less effort. The buff is *that* huge. Consider -- a well-slotted FF shield gives about +40% defense for 4 minutes. The Destiny buff gives +30% defense for 1 minute out of every 2, or about 50% of the time, *in addition to* +30% resistance and a brief period of +90% to both that's easily timed for the start of a fight. And it's *one click*. Do you know how hard a FFer needs to work to keep his team buffed? On its own the Destiny buff almost obsoletes the entire FF powerset.

When you consider that every AT can get the Destiny buff, and you will be playing on Leagues of 16+ people... The FF powerset is now a fossil. It serves no purpose in the high-level game. The only thing keeping Sonic Resonance relevant is its debuffs.

Originally Posted by Venture

Right, everyone loved Civil War.

Originally Posted by EvilRyu

Nah I would settle for allowing the raid leader to see who has what temp power that way you can make sure things go according to plan otherwise its kick.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

No, I mean in terms of Incarnate progression.

I trust we can all agree that tying the entirety of the Incarnate system to Emperor Marcus Cole and nothing else ever would be a bad move. Sooner or later we'll have to grow past his threat, and so I ask what comes next.

My point was more pragmatic, however - as we progress down the Incarnate slots and tiers, we become stronger. Intelligent game design would have to anticipate this and make the encounters harder to compensate, but the question is by how much? As the gulf between top-tier powers plus level shifts and bottom-tier powers or, worst still, empty slots is vast, where would balance fall? Where should it fall?

I harken back to Inventions. Inventions, they said, would not change the existing game, meaning that the game would not be rebalanced to expect people to use them. No-one ever claimed that NEW content won't be made that assumed you had those, and Incarnate Trials strongly suggest that this time is coming, if it hasn't come already. Sooner or later we'll have to ask ourselves the question: Do we balance new content based on top-tier power? And considering what the overall point of the Incarnate system seems to be, I'm inclined to expect they'll tend towards a "yes," or at the very least "maybe."

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

I gotta' side with Venture on this one. This is turning into the dark side of Dragon Ball Z. "I'm the strongest warrior in the universe!" "Ha-ah! You're no match for me in my Perfect Form!" We give characters godlike powers, and then treat them like demigod battle grunts.

I realise now how hollow my expectations were way back when, but I always envisioned godlike power making us more distinct and more important, not more like a faceless crowd.

Originally Posted by CatAstrophy

I thought that 1 thread = 20 shards

1 thread = 1 shard or 1 thread = 2 shards is ok.

Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

I can? Cause the full BaF I was on, first I lagged to crap, then there were a bunch of flashy lights, then we fought Nightstar, then we started killing prisoners and crashed. Some people fired off Judgement nukes and Destiny buffs. I have no idea who did it. Somebody was using Storm powers. I have no idea who the stormy was. There was another Scrapper running around killing Vickys with me. I don't remember his name or powersets. There was a Brute at the prisoner door with me with the Soul Mastery immobilize. I don't remember his name or primary or secondary either.

On the other hand, I still remember some of who did what on the STFs I ran back when it was WST.

Originally Posted by JKCarrier

More to the point, if you find ITF too tough, you can go off and do other things to build up your character's power and then come back and try again. With the trials, there's really no alternative -- if you can't hack it, you just have to repeatedly beat your head against the wall until you collect enough "consolation prizes" to boost yourself up. Obviously, some people don't mind that, but for others it's extremely annoying, if not downright depressing (and the usual suggested alternative: "Just find an uber team and leech off of them" isn't exactly thrilling either). It's like throwing lvl 1 characters into Peregrine Island and expecting them to street-sweep their way to 50.

Originally Posted by CactusBrawler

The Batman one didn't, it happened in another mission with no back up.