Arbiter_Shade

Well Tenzhi I have to respectfully disagree on this point, I have found much more accepting and nicer communities in the other MMOs I have played.

This isn't to say that I haven't met good people in this game, heck I even met my now wife in this game all those many years ago. I just see such arrogance from so many people here. In other MMOs there are people being mean spirited and rude for the sake of being a troll. Here people are CONVINCED that they are right and put a new level of fervor into their attempts at making everyone agree with them.

But, again, I have to say the best group of people I have ever gamed with, maybe with the exception of my old group on Planet Side, was on this game. They just happened to leave with i13 and since then the only groups I have been able to find end in total nightmares. May be a symptom of Virtue now that I think about it....

Okay late response but I have been half ***** following this topic anyway, this REALLY struck me because it is so mind boggling.

REALLY?! REALLY?! THIS COMMUNITY? The one that for the longest time shouted down PvPers and their concerns? The one that spent this ENTIRE topic arguing over petty matters of perception regardless of any actual evidence to the contrary? The community that involves certain people who are so narrow minded that they can't possible understand that there is an entire other half of the game that is devoted to "bad people" and goes on inane raves ending in emoticons that never contributes anything to the subject at hand? Or how about more pointedly your own treatment of Stalker detractors in the Stalker forums Leo?

This flat out INSANE idea that the community in this game has ever been anything special blows my mind. This COMMUNITY is the largest group of egocentric close minded individuals I have ever met. Nice people? Sure. But so wrapped up in themselves they can't possible accept that anyone ever feels differently than them and WONT let things drop until the other party leaves or just nods their head in agreement.

This community is great as long as you go hand in hand with what ever the popular sentiment is at the time. Now that things like raiding, and gear, and micro-transactions have come out you are starting to get wedges slammed between what was once a cohesive wall of self righteous ignorance. I have usually been on the other side of the fence so this is nothing new to me.

I supported, still do, PvP. I like the new iTrials. I prefer Red Side. I think that micro-transactions are lame. And I think that Stalkers definitely need a buff even though they are my favorite AT.

I don't know if it is the growing age of self entitlement or what but the community in this game has always been very self inflated and was only so cohesive as long as they had a common enemy, I.E. another sub community. Now that the over community has begun to split everyone has turned into a bitter rhetoric spewing introvert. They want there's and to hell with everyone else.

Perhaps? You'd have to be pretty dense to not realize that the torn half was the important part...Probably is Shivans/Coming Storm which we have known about for some time.

You know what is funny? My ONE character who is shy and avoids people is the only one that has been invited to an RPSG in the last year.

That is because this game is painfully easy, even our hardest content to date is easy.

People in this game just find other petty reasons to tell you off. If you are a PvPer you might as well be a Nazi to a lot of players. On Virtue if you don't appease the "popular" crowd you might as well switch servers.

I have been kicked off teams because and I quote, "I'm sorry but my SG leaders girlfriend doesn't like your wife." I laughed at it but it REALLY put this game in a new light. The community is very strong which is good and a bad thing because if you questions the way of things you get black listed.

My best experience in this game is back before i13 PvPing with the Renegades on test and Freedom, I came to Virtue because hell, I like RP too! I found PvPers much more accepting than RPers. That is not to say I think RPers are malicious, I just see a lot of groups that expect you to put up with leaders that feel like they are gods gift to earth or to suspend disbelief and accept that the leader is more powerful than any canon character and infinitely more powerful than your character can ever hope to be.

This is a rant but I am stressed out for a lot of reasons and I just want to enjoy the game that I used to so much but I can not find community in this game anymore. Everything is insular and everyone avoids you unless their friend introduces you to them. I WANT to RP but I can't find a group to save my life because they are either the HUGE group that forgets the small people or a small group that falls apart in two weeks.

Really?

Pretty much. As this game ages groups become more and more insular because there is really no point in recruiting when there are less and less people joining the game, BUT this game has a high retention rate of those who do play and they tend to stay with one SG. So not a lot of people recruit anymore and not a lot of people look anymore, but there are the few of us that are looking and it is really hard to find when you don't have access to a network of friends to point you in the direction of a group that MIGHT be recruiting.

EDIT: You COULD go to Pocket D for RP but...even that is a bunch of cliques sitting around avoiding anyone not apart of their group.

See a lot of us on the forums have talked about this issue of SG inactivity and starting up a new one but no one wants the responsibility of running a group. I know that I am graduating college next month and my free time is limited by getting a portfolio together and dealing with exit practicals, but I still am looking for a SG for any one of my many characters. So count me in if someone finally decides to start up a group heh.

How is that a WoW thing? The exact same thing happens all the time in this game, it is an MMO thing.

Unless entire VGs/SGs move over to Union and continue to snub anyone not apart of their group then hopefully it WILL be different.

I second this, I would love to see another RP community for a fresh start. But if it is the same as here on Virtue I might as well not worry about it...

Haha, implying that anyone at Paragon Studios cares enough about PvPers to actually fire someone when they screw over PvPers. You're delusional man!

Okay I see this a lot and it simply isn't true. Every MMO I have played before this one had content patches just like we get. They just use them to supplement a large number of paid expansions as well. I am not bad mouthing CoX but it isn't special in this department and it didn't set that standard.

To be fair the selection in those threads is extremely limited, especially the villain one, and half of them have the same theme. Frankly they are terrible sources to find a group because every time I HAVE tried to use them I have never heard back from anyone I was trying to contact.

VirtueVerse is also a terrible resource at this point because the recruiting section is full of dead groups that have long since left the game.

It is really tough at this point to get reinserted into the RP scene in this game because everyone sticks to their friends or group they are already playing in and it is hard to even find a group that may be recruiting.

Not only is that a GREAT idea it should be taken into account as a fix for the placate bug. Cause you know...Placate is STILL bugged. It is a roundabout fix and while AS would be easier to do alone doing something like that for all Stalker secondary debuffs might be a little much.