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GG, everyone.

Exile


Team Roster: ( Current )

@Teh Artic (Captain)

@TheKatalyst
@Hinden
@Condro
@TRTerror, @TRTwo, @TRThree
@black barrier, @barrier
@(Empty)

Removing myself from the roster. Can't even show up like a boss on previous leagues just for gameday. Good Luck.

Plans fell through - Sign me up Dio, as a Captain.

First of all, on the topic of "trash-talk" yeah it's going to be more prevalent in PvP zones because the loud minority outnumbers the silent majority. I don't remember the last time that NPC got a little heated and called me names because I killed his predictable little toon. The nature of people being in zones with other people pew pew'ing at other people just brings out the little trolls (guilty, fun times) And I respect that some people just don't like that. ( You can always turn chat off, I do it sometimes. You don't need chat to PvP... Some people just get too caught up in it. Words are Words. ) Also there are alot more PvPers that "participate" in PvP than you really think IMO, who came up with those random %'s anyways? Also I don't think much of the playerbase really even visits the forums, just a loud minority of PvErs.

You know, I'm just not totally sure I support the title of this Thread. "Why aren't people PvPing?" Should be pretty obvious, it's just not the playstyle they enjoy and it should be left at that. If anything you should also ask "What did/do LIKE about PvPing?" Then again, not sure you would get a ton of responses considering since after i13, PvP has been neglected to say the least, and we all know it has. Then again, that's a question the Devs should be asking themselves, i13=WhyAren'tYOUPvPing??

At this point though, i'm happy that you created a thread about pvp. It's definatly due some attention. Yeah, I play this game for the PvP still, and I know why... it's fun for me, I have came to the conclusion that PvP is just a side-game that for whatever reason you have to spend massive amounts of time PvEing to the MAX (Accolades, IO's, etc etc etc, Whatever else you can think of JUST to do what I originally came here to do: PvP)

And maybe, just maybe the Developers would throw us little PvPers a bone, or 2. Maybe make it a tad easier for those of us who like to PvP, be able to gain Incarnates through an "Award System" or a sirens call Bounty System that we could utilize. Or we could just start simple and let us get Incarnate Threads in zones/"Defeating" Players.

Can we have some new Arena Maps? You guys can't say there are some cool maps that could be made from alot of the newer stuff.

CoH PvP is still good, but to be realistic i13 killed alot of interest in the PvP community, and there has not been ample "support" after the fact, Travel Suppression/Speed of the game is what kept alot of people loving PvP, when that speed was taken... Alot of "interest" was as well.

To be honest I think I have met more rude random PvErs / Farmers than I have PvPers, (which have been IMO the most knowledgeable about game mechanics/builds/TF's/YouGetThePoint) Maybe it's just the similarities in interest, You tell me.

Don't blame the PvPers for using FOTM's, in the end it's about defeating other players, and some toons for whatever reason are just WAY better in PvP. Don't hate the Player, Hate the "Game/System". It should NOT be like this. Some combo's are just at a serious dis-advantage, and i'm sure most of you know that. I know I don't enjoy running around on my electric/fire blaster while I could be using a psi/energy blaster!

Again, Why can't I build my Character through PvP? I'm sure someone will complain about "exploiting and people just farming eachother for HOURS" Who cares, Don't enter a PvP zone, to be honest I don't understand why PvErs think they have to have a large say in anything having to do with PvP? Why not just stay out of it, or be supportive. PvP is not going anywhere, Just fix it.

Hopefully this thread takes a turn into something productive.

First on how to use them, I would start by opening up your email and placing one by one into seperate emails to @Midnight Havoc. He has pleanty of email space left. I deleted Mids so i'll need your io's to make builds. Thanks.

The rest is up to you.

Thanks for the matches everyone, it was fun. Good luck with all your future endeavors.

Totally agree Kat. Not a bad start with 5 teams, but im sure everyone agree's that if we can form up a few more teams this would be a much more fun league. Nobody likes a "step stool", more teams the better. Also I think we should stay at 8 man cores because that might promote more teams possibly being created.

We have alot of PvPers who still play, just takes one person to step up, get some friends together or people who are interested. Just take a look at the Free Agent thread, or the PvP in-game channel, you will find people.

If anyone is thinking about forming a team and needs help, let me know I have no problem assisting.

Hopefully by having 8 man cores, it will possibly open up more teams. I think we should just keep it at 8.

Good stuff PF, Hear you already got 4-5 people. Hopefully you fill the team soon.

Hey merc sounds like a fun event. If you want you can advertise the event through the Freedom PvP 2011 channel, MOTD or whatever. Just an idea not sure how many pvpers actually read the forums.

A level 50 Free For All and/or Cross-Server PvP zone has been asked for as long as I can remember, and I have been PvPing since i3 beta. Obviously im supportive of the general idea as a whole, FFA/being able to team with whomever sounds very fun. I believe the zone should be max level. Also I don't know how feasible it would be having a Cross-Server type zone, but sounds awesome regardless.

Pleanty of us play strictly for the PvP, but that does not warrent us to say no to every single addition we do not like or would not currently use. I don't care about half the stuff they add, but someone else might like it, I don't go out of my way on the forums to bash a player-base how small or minute they may be. PvP has been apart of this game for a very long time, if your not over it by now, I don't know what to say other than get over it we are not going anywhere. Just because we don't have the vocal majority here on the forums does not mean we are shunned from new shiney game additions.

In before the rest of the people claiming the PvP population is non-existant. Seriously? It's clearly not as bad as some of you PvE forum lurkers claim it to be. RV always has people available, any time night or day. Arena Kickballs (Style of picking with 2 team leaders picking until teams are filled) are started almost every single night, we actually had to up the user numbers on ventrilo.

The PvP community also has PvP leagues often, started the year with the FML league on freedom, then we had a C.A.P.E. league on champion, and are currently starting another Freedom PvP league that looks promising. The PvP community deserves new stuff, regardless if you support it or not.

Why not be supportive and come up with better ways to do things rather than bring up random population percentages that mean nothing. Thanks.

Yes, Doms are usefull in PvP. Useable for Solo, Dueling, Casual Zoning or Team PvPin. Obviously the build changes a little depending on what your trying to exactly do, team-play vrs. solo-play.

With that said I would definatly go */Fire, easily the best secondary, good ranged attacks in flares, fire blast and blaze, also a good build-up power in fiery embrace.

Primary I would go Fire (very good damage, alot of DoT/Reactive) for solo/dueling, Mind (Alot of utility powers, TK, Confuse, very popular for doms) for smaller teams, and Earth (Big stun, -Def component) for larger team play. Obviously theirs more to each powerset but just my quick observations. Either way Fire, Mind, or Earth would be very good choices and would work for any PvP setting.

I think we should limit the banning of AT's and certain powers if possible, but if everyone decides no TK for example I will support the majority vote.

The only thing I believe should be limited is incarnates (Except Alpha's, we have used in the past 2 leagues), no lore pets, no reactive, no ****** nuke, no destiny. My opinion of course.

Alot of good Kickballs on Freedom lately. If you havent recently participated they happen a few times a week in the evening, good to get a feel for arena PvP if your new. Alot of helpful people if you have questions about builds and PvPing in general.

Nothin to argue about here, we are PvPin... He's not. Thanks for givin this topic more views, you know we can get all we can get.

Cool story bro, lol.

Great post Artic! Join up if you haven't!

Yes, do it. They will come.

Removal of Travel Suppression + Healing Decay would make alot of us PvPers very happy. Travel Suppression currently slows you down if you heal (which your heals get Diminished anyways which seems redundant) self aura heals, inspiration usage, rad/dark/snow storm toggles perma Travel Suppress you. Any attack thrown at you will slow you, that is just not fun imo.

It's just a numbers game in zone, whichever side currently has the most people to pew pew, which gets perma slowed and eventually killed. Your forced to grab hibernate and/or phase shift in zones no questions asked, which are nice powers anyways but without them you have no chance at all. (Speaking of Phase Shift, that is an example of a good PvP change... Brings another dynamic to PvP being able to Chase/Kill while Phased and vice versa.)

And Healing Decay is just dumb. It makes any type of Healer almost pointless in zones. Don't think I need to elaborate more here, just remove it.

I put up with the current "issues" because it was forced upon us, and I obviously like PvP in this game... Even though it's been severly neglected/messed up over the years. I could go on and on with stuff I would like to see added/changed, but im not holding my breath. With that said I would like anything new added, Arena Maps, stuff, Anything?

My end-game is PvP. I would like to see PvP get built upon. Alternate ways to get rewards through PvPing and not doing TF's.