Arbegla

Eh, only point 1 would be moot. and my main point was that no matter how high up the premium players go, VIPs will always get more.

I coulda swore you couldn't do that. Like, the claim button is replaced with the delete button, so you can't actually delete emails that have attachments...

Which is why i created the SG base in the first place, as a means to store all my drops in 1 location, so when i need them, i can just load up the 'storage' character, grab what i need, email it to myself, and slot on the character that needs it.

Its a great plan, the only problem is getting everything to said character.. I've crafted about 80-ish recipes via all the rares and uncommons i've managed to email to myself, and I'm ok enough with doing it this way (as global storage doesn't seem likely, and increasing self storage is already kinda happening with i21) i just don't like being limited to 150 transfers a day..clearing over 12 characters worth of salvage is a lot more then 150 items, and thats not even counting the fact i've been rolling alignment merits as much as possible to build an even bigger storage.

On my regen, which i will admit is a katana/regen, if i don't already have a stack of DA active, i almost always jumped into a spawn with MoG active. Before MoG, i don't play at a higher enough difficulty where the alpha can't be mitigated with dull pain or recon right away (basically, jump into group,and hit recon right away, just in case, then proceed to hit DA)

My other /regen is a stalker, which means he gets to pick what fights he starts, and his only problem is running outta endurance (not getting quick recovery is just mean i tell you)

I plan on making a fire/regen brute, and going soul mastery for DN, so i can basically pull with DN into a group of mobs, and go from there. I'll prolly go for 32.5% melee or lethal/smash defense though on him, so he has some mitigation before he burns into to death.

First off, i'm not a she...

Secondly, lets actually look at the sugguestion.

You want the IO system (but not the market) to be introduced to new players at level 30, or higher, instead of at level 10. Due to your opinion on the IO system being too complex for lower level characters to understand, or get any benefit from said IO system below level 30.

Your arguement was that the complexity of the IO system was one of the main factors in peoples complaints about CoH, and to introduce it later would mean characters would have less to worry about until then, and be of a high enough level that the IO system will benefit them more, then it would benefit a level 10 character.

Now, lets look at some of the sub level 30 IO sets:

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...r_levels_10-15
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...r_levels_15-20
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...r_levels_20-25
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...r_levels_21-25
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Category...r_levels_25-30

So, not counting doubles, your looking at about 123-ish Sets that run the gauntlet between level 10, and level 30. Your also looking at about 32 pieces of salvage in the level 4 - 25 range, and another 32 pieces of salvage in the 25 - 40 range. All of those would either have to be removed, or adjusted to drop at your new proposed 30+ range.

Looking again at the IO recipes in the pre-30 range, and you'll see plenty that of pretty good usage. Any damage procs in those range will function from level 7 upwards, adding to players DPS, Karma and Steadfast IOs (both don't drop below level 30) offer KB protection, and the steadfast +def IO is one of the most prized recipes due to the 3% defense boost it gives. There are also plenty of sets that can help with exemplaring at those level ranges, or help with a frankenslot build, as the dual-,tri- and quad-aspect enhancements are less affected by the limits of Exemplaring, which is explained here. http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Exemplar...n_Enhancements

So how exactly is the IO system not very useful pre-level 30, and somehow gets better post level 30?

Except you know, Premiumns, no matter what 'tier' they are in, will not EVER get the following:

1) Incarnate content. Both in powers, and access to itrials.
2) the Tier 9 VIP tier, which includes awesome looking armors, and 150 extra PP a month
3) Any other VIP only content (which i think is just limited /time right now? Don't VIPs get /time for free, but premiunms, have to pay to have access to it?)


So yeah.. your totally right, except when your not. which is right now.

With the added regen debuff resistance, and more resistance added to resilence, plus the higher base HP, regen on a brute will perform better then regen on a scrapper.

it still has its downsides, but all in all, its a better experience on a brute.

You've obviously haven't been playing this game very long. The very people your saying you don't owe anything to, are the very people the devs DO listen to. They are the vets, they are the ones who first discovered the power of IOs (back when they were released) they were the ones who first downed Hamidon, and then proceeded to down him again when they revamped Hamidon. (which by the way, was mainly done with PLAYER input in mind)

So quite simply put, the devs WILL listen to THEM much more then they will listen to YOU, especially when you flat out refuse to post FACTS, and are just working off your own OPINIONS.

I also love how you completely ignored the post about 'google' basically blowing your argument straight outta the water. By your own definition of 'do it for me' we have already discovered how much truth your saying, so what really makes you think the devs are going listen to you?

HT has to be perma in order to stack the -regen. If you don't stack the -regen, then your going to take FOREVER to down most AVs. even longer to down GMs. -regen is the SOLE reason people are able to solo AVs/GMs. without that, MMs just don't do enough DPS to really put a massive dent into a AVs/GMs hp pool, especially with the fact the bulk of their attacks are in the form of DoTs.

And Hell of Earth is more then just a set mule. If all your using it for is a set mule, your simply doing it wrong. The hellfire imps that come out, are a massive DPS boost, and the +dmg/+tohit it gives to your pet allows it to do some really insane damage. Slap it on your Hellfire Gargoyle, and watch its damage aura tick for like 30s. Plus having multiple imps running around clawing things up and taking damage that your pets aren't taking.

With AV resistance, a level 50 AV/GM is going to resist 85% of your debuffs. HT is only a 500% regen debuff, and with AV resistance, its only debuffing 75% of an AVs regeneration. Adding in Midnight Grasp and your only going to be able to do a total of 82.5% -regen. That's not enough to floor them, so you have to overcome the remaining 17.5% regeneration. (which for a level 50 AV is about 94.24 * .175 or 16.5hp/second, for a GM you would only decreases its regen from .5%hp/second to .0875%hp/second, still leaving plenty of passive regen that you would need to overcome before you start doing damage to the GM)

Ah, i guess i missed that part about SD.. yep, that explains it. SD gives so much more to scrappers, that it would push higher then brute counter parts.. Now fire/fire brutes vs fire/fire scrappers, and brute would pull ahead.. (at least in theory, due to better taunt, higher resistance, higher HP, which means higher heals, and more damage)

Worst part is that Energy Melee doesn't even top the ST DPS charts anymore

Well, both combinations could do what you want (team play, and AV/GM soloing) but it'll take a massive IO investment to make work properly. The main thing you'll need to AV/Gm solo is -regen, and while both /thermal and /dark have it, /dark has better access to it. Dark's heal and its rez both do -regen (the rez has much more -regen tacked on, but you'll have to use it offensively instead of as an actual rez) /thermal has decent -regen, and nice -res/-def, but you'll need a very large amount of global recharge to get it perma, which will almost be required to solo AV/GMs.

You also need to consider how you want to solo said thing. most MMs tankermind (as in the MM itself has provoke, takes the brunt of the damage, and the pets deal the damage, allowing the MM to soak much more via bodyguard mode, and quickly heal with back up) In order to pull that off easily, you'll need to softcap either lethal/smash, or ranged, but as neither /thermal or /dark have a means to immobilize AVs/GMs, you'll prolly want lethal/smash, which means getting Scorpion Shield.

It'll be a very expensive build either way, but it is possible to pull off with the combinations your looking at.

I'll have to second this. Disintegration will deal a pretty hefty DoT, and will put most mobs into Scourge range, basically allowing you to 1 shot into Scourge, and then do 3 - 4 times normal damage (due to Disintegration and scourge supplementing each other)

Add in a low redraw secondary, like /rad or /traps, and you'll have a pretty nasty combination on your hands.

Yes

I'm honestly not sure Fire melee on a scrapper would out damage Fire melee on a brute, due to the DoT not critting, but being affected by fury.

I'm not counting high end, damage capped builds, but even if i was, does the extra DoT being fueled by fury out shine the crit damage of Scrappers fire melee?