Zyphoid

This, and thread drops. I really don't think table rewards are based on participation.

I have seen it in multiple build threads over the past two weeks, and not just for Regen. As I stated before I can see that Regen need something to make it work again.

Then I have been misunderstanding what you are stressing, and I would like to more clearly see what you are stressing.

As for the rest of your post, yes I do think the position you take is a bit extreme. If you find that fun though, then more power to you. Death at lvl 50 is another badge.

Now I like not dieing as much as any scrapper. I love to see others eat floor while I am still standing, I just see more than one way of achieving that. My point is that there is no one way that is above and beyond the best way in a game with as many variables as this game has. There are just so many things to be taken into account when survivability is the goal.

I am at a point with my main (KM/EleA) where I only die if I am goofing off (chatting is the usual culprit), or get family agro. I promise a 3yo can kill a toon faster than any AV in the game. It seems like people come here, and the only build advice given is "more def!" I have also already admitted that may be a misconception on my part.

To go with my Horse example earlier. +Def has become a box, and people are not wanting to think outside that box. I like what is outside that box, it makes me different. It makes it even more exciting for me when I live through what is considered unconventional building. Now, that may be as extreme a position as yours is about the ITF death rate.

I got on one at 7:45am EST today. I don't think people are going to stop running these any time soon.

I feel this exact same way. I went with Warworks because I liked the way Viki looked the best. With that said, she never dies before her time is up, even in the big AV fights.

Even with that, until they give me options that fit my concept I will not go past t3, if there wasn't a level shift I would have skipped it all together.

I LOVE i20, I LOVE the incarnate system, but this is all stuff they were warned about in beta. Go read the multiple suggestions about allowing more ways to get threads. No one even wanted an "easy" way to get them, we all just wanted more ways.

I am doing the trials over and over because these powers add so much to my character, not only numerically, but conceptually. I am a KM/EleA scrapper, who is an Avatar of Storms. I now have a LIGHTNING attack which is AWESOME. I have Grav interface that I use as forceful wind draining and slowing those who attack me. With Destiny I can call upon the storms to rejuvenate me. I am still working out Lore, but I am hopeful they add something that fits.

The point is I am doing it over and over because I love the system, and the concept. I still think some with in the earning system would have been better.

I have to agree with Test_Rat here. The solo choice is a bit of a joke.

I am not bored, but I am from a generation of gamers who would grind in games like NES Dragon Warrior just because it is how the game was played.

I don't think anyone realized how driven people would be to get these incarnate powers. I didn't realize it, until it went live. I never had this drive on test, I guess because it didn't matter there. Live is a different story though, I MUST have the incarnate powers.

What is worse is I want multiple trees, and the only way to really work towards it is to do the trials. The 10 for 10 conversion once a day is just painful, and 10 for 5 is just not very efficient. So if I want to progress, I have to do the trials.

I am only doing it with one character, it pains me to think of the players who want to be incarnates on multiple characters. UGH!!

Yes I know more trials are coming, but I have no clue how soon that will be. I am not really sure 4 trials will even be enough to cover the desire people have for these powers. I have to admit it borders on obsessive how bad I want these boosts, and the rewards table has become like playing the lottery. Every time I run the trial I tell myself "This will be the run where I get that very rare table." when I don't I say "next time."

We really are going to need more options for threads, and soon. The best way would be to let any TF run at +4 to drop threads and not shards. If it needs to be more, make it any one run at +4 with temps disabled. This system has HUGE potential, and I love the incarnate stuff, we just need more ways to get the threads and salvage. Keep iXP tied to the trials if you want, but really give us more ways to get threads.

I have run the BAF and Lambda well over 30 times in since i20 went live. I am so tired of that cut scene that it is painful. Guild Wars gives the skip option, and if everyone on the team chooses it, it cancels the scene.

We really need something. It was entertaining the first few times, but around the 25th my eyes started to bleed.

I have seen MMs that were awesome in these trials, so I can't agree with this. I know I am always glad to end up paired with one during the escape phase of the BAF.

This is end game content, and I personally feel it should have been created with IO balance in mind, and not the SOs that the rest of the game is built around. I know I am not alone in this notion because it was discussed multiple times during beta.

I hate it with a passion. In over 30 runs I have had common, uncommon, and 2 rares. I have spend close to 400 mill in upgrading components. So, Yeah, I still think it sucks.

So, it is settled, we should get BOTH!!! OOOO, and we should throw x2 shards in there too!

No, get with the program Brad. 2XP is the old way, the new way should be x2 threads.

This was Epic.