Acemace

I've had a fire/mace from the beginning of the game and have gotten quite a bit a mileage out of it, and it's still one of the more fun combinations to play to me, especially after last years buffs to the set.
The primary attacks from f/a help boost the combos damage, and the disorients and knockdowns from w/m provide good damage mitigation for fiery aura.

As far as tf/av's and tanking, overall having played it in all situations over the years including tanking hami I've found the two sets work as well together as all but the current fotm sd/ss, which is nearly a perfect combo.

Some pros & cons from each set,
w/m pros
good attack speeds, some disorienting capabilities, accuracy bonus, moderate endurance use, heavy smashing aoe, strong s/t damage, custom weapon options.

cons
moderate stun effects
Comparatively lacks a "wow" power ie total focus-knock out blow
weapon redraw.

f/a pros
high overall resists, easily capping resistance to fire damage,
a buildup power, good self heal power which also offers resistance to toxic, a self +endurance power, a self rez, very good damage in blazing aura and burn plus minor aoe damg in consume

cons
no defense, low resist to cold damage, endurance intensive (w/ pp toggles), no knockback resistance

Here's my f/m's current build since you asked for ideas, if you have more questions there are plenty of people who play that combo around here. Have fun.




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ACEMACE: Level 50 Science Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: War Mace
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blazing Aura -- Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Sciroc-Dam%:50(3), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg:50(3), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(5), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx:50(5)
Level 1: Bash -- Acc(A)
Level 2: Fire Shield -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(7), HO:Ribo(7), ResDam-I:50(9), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(9)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Numna-Heal:50(11), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(13), RechRdx-I:50(13), RechRdx-I:50(15)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 10: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(15), HO:Ribo(17), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(17), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(19)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(19), RgnTis-Regen+:30(21), Mrcl-Heal:40(21), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(23), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(23)
Level 16: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg:50(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:50(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25)
Level 18: Consume -- Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(27), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(27)
Level 20: Clobber -- HO:Nucle(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:50(29), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(29), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31)
Level 22: Burn -- Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(A), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(33)
Level 24: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(33), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:50(34), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(34)
Level 26: Boxing -- Acc(A)
Level 28: Whirling Mace -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(36), Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:50(36), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(36), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(37), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(37)
Level 30: Tough -- HO:Ribo(A), HO:Ribo(37), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(39)
Level 32: Weave -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(40), LkGmblr-Def:50(40), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(40), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42)
Level 35: Shatter -- HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(42), HO:Nucle(42), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(43), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg:50(43)
Level 38: Crowd Control -- HO:Nucle(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:50(45), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg:50(46)
Level 41: Char -- HO:Endo(A)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx:50(46), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg:50(46), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- HO:Nucle(A), Posi-Dam%:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(50), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(50), Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(50)
Level 49: Taunt -- Zinger-Taunt/Rng:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet

-actually a couple io's were updated since this build last summer, but it gives the gist.

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Detective2416, he's been on Champion for years.

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Not sure how this became a build show and tell thread, but..... Tank any AV with that setup, and take a Fraps for our entertainment.

Now I forget, what's this thread about again.

Really quickly, don't bother slotting Bash, six slot both Stamina and Physical Perfection with either end set (I use pshifter in PP and EA in Stam), drop recall friend, -let the trollfenders/squishies do the team tp'ing, take sjump (one slot), six slot Clobber it's your biggest st attack, Drop LBEyes and use the slots to strengthen your core powers, just use vrewards for ranged damage, three slot Hasten, I would five-six slot WMace but that's up to you, and five slotting Taunt is a bit of a waste when Dark has so many utility powers that would be more effective with those extra slots.

Quite a few Dark tankers also fit Tough and sometimes Weave into their build, but it's not a requirement.
Have fun.

For what it's worth I have to disagree with your conclusion.

With the inception of ED all armors were reduced across the board and fire's weaker status was just made more pronounced as a result, especially with the fear/recharge/damage nerf to Burn making a kill to stay alive concept less achievable.

Conversely pre-ED an Invul and fire tank both filled with Ribosome/Cytoskeletons at 50% effect would render the former a virtual godmode, while the burn tank would still have to rely on HF.

A SG mate and I used to solo GMs after raids and with that setup he could tank 10 indefinitely without a movement in his health bar, and while my fire/mace could handle 6-7 eventually HF was needed, even with Tough and Weave six slotted also full of HO's.


Regardless, a buff to Burn, either increased radius, damage, or a bit of both, would probably be much more effective for FA over a revamp of RotP to be honest.

It would lift the fire tank again on top as the damage set, as it was intended, while leaving its rez power as is to use should you get in trouble, and if it fits your preference.

And of course Shield Charge, which makes it not even a question comparing the two choices for a forming build.

I have a 50 sd/ss/em that defeats mobs faster then my wifes ably played fire/kin.

Have yet to see it, but I noticed it's over halfway to a billion in tickets worldwide, $615,168,000, and has yet to open in China and Japan, impressive.

Who is this "we" you speak of. I remember a nuclear reaction going off before I could even strap on my damn belt.

Btw, do you remember the "inspire retailers" waiting outside making a tidy profit off all the beaten up and dead flopping out the door.

Good times.

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Let me clarify. Specifically on a tank if you purposely die to use the power, sometimes you'll put your team in danger because of lost aggro.

If you don't expect to be regularly defeated, and you have one power which works only when you are, what's the point?



On Tanks why isn't this power coupled with Invulnerability, Stone, WP, or Shields, but only with the squishier armors?

Because Geko and Castle "expect" those weaker sets "to be defeated" at a higher ratio.


To me that's a loser power that can be skipped for something that may keep your toon alive, rather then one that assumes defeat is inevitable. ;]



I'd like to see RotP remodeled but it would have to be so neutered if it worked as OP suggested that it would be highly situational at best.

Abrupt, but the Berry has a point.


In related news, fresh info about i14 is about to be leaked..

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Ditto. Will check out.



-those were the only replies all this time? lol

$8 for a movie, is that a time portal in your pants. Props on the Meat Loaf drop.

Bacon Blast / Mead Regeneration. That's a party son.

That looks damn tasty.

WB BA.

A better question has never been asked.

Heh standing through it is hardcore , looks like you enjoyed it anyway. Beowulf was the last 3d flick we saw at one of the two Imax's near us, so I'm looking forward to this one. =]